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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:00 AM
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Bill Maher writing in Salon: "New Rule. American Flag Pins Are For Idiots"
American flag pins are for idiots

This generation doesn't sacrifice or even pay for our wars. No, all we do is sport pins and bumper stickers.

By Bill Maher

Oct. 12, 2007 | New Rule: Show me a man wearing an American flag pin in his lapel, and I'll show you an asshole. I'm sure there are exceptions, but in general people need to remember that lapels aren't for wearing pins to create the illusion that you're supporting the troops. They're for wearing ribbons to create the illusion that you're helping cure a disease.

Last week we had the first genuine controversy of the presidential campaign: the shocking news that Barack Obama doesn't wear an American flag lapel pin, so apparently he and America are no longer going steady. "No lapel pin, Senator? It's like not wearing pants. Why don't you just stab the Statue of Liberty in the eye while bitch-slapping a 9/11 widow?" Another in a series of bullshit non-stories that have zero effect on the troops, the war or anything in the real world -- or, as Fox calls it, "Breaking News."

A reporter in Iowa asked Obama why he doesn't wear the pin and Obama explained that, to him, wearing the pin had come to seem like a "substitute for true patriotism." Bravo, Senator. And then, in yet another shining example of why the media is part of the problem, ABC's Claire Shipman said, "TMI, too much information -- all he had to say was, 'Don't judge me by what I wear, move on.' He played into the idea that he's not ready for prime time."

What, schoolgirl? "Too much information?" What is she, 12? This is typical press hypocrisy -- they say they want somebody who doesn't give pat political answers, but when they get one, they call him a loser. They say they don't like safe robots like Hillary, but they create conditions where only that species can survive. And they give cover to people like Sean Hannity, who reported on "no pin" gate and then had to call a doctor because his fake outrage hard-on lasted longer than 72 hours.

Of course, the Republicans are the party of Mark Foley and the Rev. Ted Haggard and Larry Craig and countless other closeted homosexuals, so their fixation on jewelry is understandable, but still ... the flag is just a symbol. You're getting pissy about a brooch, you drama queens, one that was probably made in China. It's probably leaking poison lead on you right now.

At least that would be some sacrifice, because let's be honest: this generation doesn't do real sacrifice or even pay for our own wars. That's what grandkids are for! No, we do flag pins and bumper stickers. And not even bumper stickers. Bumper magnets. Because stickers are tough to get off, and we may change our mind about never forgetting.

When I see the little flag right here, the first thing I think is, you voted for, and still like, George Bush, the man who has gotten more troops unnecessarily killed and maimed by failing to plan for their mission, by pushing their units to the breaking point, by letting his corporate enablers like Halliburton, Bechtel and Blackwater rape and pillage not just the Iraqis, but our own army.

Can you imagine how apoplectic the flag-pin people would be if these same transgressions against the military were being made by Bill Clinton? Oh, who am I kidding? They'd still be obsessing about the blow job.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/10/12/flag_pins/


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nightrider767 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:08 AM
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1. Our troops are fighting to protect our freedoms
And one of those freedoms is the choice to wear or not wear a damn pin on our lapels....

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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:54 AM
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7. Yup. I'm not in favor of making the pin wearing crowd into villans
just for political currency.

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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:54 AM
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8. Yup. I'm not in favor of making the pin wearing crowd into villans
just for political currency.

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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 12:41 PM
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10. Are the Iraqis trying to take away that choice from us??Damn.
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 12:42 PM by MNDemNY
Or by "our freedom" do you mean cheap oil?
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nightrider767 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 06:06 PM
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13. By Fighting for our Freedom, I mean
What many of our troops believe in their minds to be the case. I think that they are mostly there to help protect us and spread Democracy. I admire them.

That doesn't mean that that's my personal view of the situation.

On my part I think this war is a big farce with way more to do with oil and changing the balance of power in the Middle East than in any way spreading freedom or fighting terrorists...

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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 01:40 PM
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16. So, that's a "Yes"?
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:20 AM
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2. Great rant; When Maher is on, he's on n/t
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:21 AM
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3. "They say they don't like safe robots like Hillary,
but they create conditions where only that species can survive."

Maher nails it. Reminiscent of the Hillbots here who fell all over Shipman's CW line about Obama proving his not-ready-for-suckup-time status when he spelled out why flag lapels are bullshit.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:35 AM
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6. Maybe they don't like Obama and his straddle the fence views.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 06:31 PM
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15. Hillary Clinton is ridiculed for being contrived
and when someone strays for one second from the contrived creation (like Obama did for the question about flag-pins) he is also ridiculed.

Damned either way. That is why Clinton is staying safe. She knows what awaits her.



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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:28 AM
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4. Great point about the stupidity and absurdity of the press...

... (not that we weren't already all-too-familiar with it):

"... typical press hypocrisy -- they say they want somebody who doesn't give pat political answers, but when they get one, they call him a loser. They say they don't like safe robots like Hillary, but they create conditions where only that species can survive."


Applause :applause: for Barak Obama for voicing his honest opinion. That's the first step toward breaking free of this ridiculous game the media plays, which is kind of like gambling in Vegas: if you're playing at their table, you'd better be well aware that the house has the odds in every game.

Obama's task now is too manage the blowback (pardon the mixed metaphor) and that's no easy task at all, as Al Gore and John Kerry can attest. Hillary Clinton, too.

But he's got to -- all our candidates have to -- find a way too look 'em in the eye and tell it like it is. No apologies, no histrionics either, just well-thought out views plainly stated.

That, IMO, is the single most important core quality that the voters are looking for.



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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:34 AM
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5. Just like the people who post the Ten Commandants
and then don't practice them....
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 12:01 PM
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9. Anybody remember where the flag pin fetish started?
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 12:01 PM by GrpCaptMandrake
I do.

Late 70s. Early 80s.

Flag lapel pins were hustled by two separate (maybe) groups:

On the one hand, you could get one for a "love offering" to Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority; on the other, you could get one for a "love offering" to a Moonie in an airport.

Of course, Reverend Moon later bailed out Reverend Falwell when his back-of-the-matchbook law school was about to collapse.

What's that line about fascism coming to America wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross?



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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 12:41 PM
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11. LOL! I love Bill Maher. This whole flag pin bullshit is fucking ridiculous.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:09 PM
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12. If you have a flag pin wear it upside down.
:dem:
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 06:23 PM
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14. people with flags on their cars are also idiots
The "power of Pride" bumper stickers on also on the cars owned by idiots.
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