Obama on John Lewis' endorsent of Clinton: No help in Iowa

[Karmadillo]

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/obama_on_civil_rights_nod_to_c.html

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I can’t expect to be getting every single endorsement, given the eight years of a Clinton presidency and the long-time relationships that he has established with leaders all across the country and the favors that he’s done for political players all across the country,'' Obama says.

"I promise you this: that as much respect as I have for John Lewis, it’s not going to have much of an impact on the Iowa caucuses, or the New Hampshire primary,'' the senator from Illinois adds. "And ultimately, that is what is going to determine who the next nominee is.”

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[wndycty]

1. Its true. By the time the race gets to states that would be impacted by his endorsement. . .

. . .the face of the race might be different.

[wyldwolf]

2. Them grapes were sour anyway!

[journalist3072]

3. Exactly. I also think Obama was disengenuous when trying to tie John Lewis' endorsement to the 8

yrs of Bill Clinton's presidency. As if Hillary Clinton hasn't built a record of accomplishment of her own.

[Nedsdag]

7. Oh, come off it will you?

What do you expect him to say? "Brotha, you're trippin'?"

You know, like you I'm African American and I didn't want to fall under the Tom Joyner syndrome; however, you're going after him personally. As an African American, I'm very insulted by your remarks.

[journalist3072]

8. What the hell are you talking about? I'm simply saying I think it was rather disengenuous of Obama

To suggest that the only reason Rep. Lewis endorsed Sen. Clinton, was because of the 8 years of Bill Clinton's presidency. His comments suggest that Sen. Clinton hasn't built a record of accomplishment of her own; worth of John Lewis' endorsement. And I'm saying that I disgree with that premise by Obama. And if you're somehow "insulted" by my disagreement with Obama on that point, I could really care less what you think.

[Nedsdag]

9. Keep it up, journalist3072!

Clinton is just taking the AA vote for granted as usual. After the election, she and her husband will use them like tissue paper, throw them out and use them again for the next election.

You're just another sucker who fell for their spiel as usual.

[journalist3072]

10. Grow the fuck up already. I'm so glad you can look into the future and see what's going to happen

after an election.

Have you sent your application to the Psychic Friends Network yet?

[Nedsdag]

11. Of course!

I'm waiting for your recommendation, especially since your political instincts are crappy.

[journalist3072]

13. And I have a right to my political instincts...just like you have the right

to make a major ass out of yourself, which you seem to be excelling at! Congrats!

[Nedsdag]

18. And you call yourself a "progressive."

Alan Keyes is more progressive than you are.

Go to hell.

[journalist3072]

19. You don't know a damn thing about me. But because I'm not supporting your candidate, you label me

as not progressive enough. You seem to want to engage in group think. Anyone not supporting Barack Obama is not progressive enough for your taste. You make a nice ass wipe. YOU go to hell.

[Nedsdag]

20. Speaking of "group think," do you actually expect

HRC to actually do something in White House that is progressive? Do you actually think she and her husband care about people like you?

It'll be business as usual for them. They use people, then they'll throw them away to protect their political expedience. If you don't believe me, ask Lani Guinier, Joycelyn Elders, Mike Espy.

You want more names? I can give you more.

As for the "ass wipe" comment, well, you've shown your true colors haven't you? You're not good enough to be the Charmin in my bathroom. Call me when you don't hear from Billary after the election. Apparently, triangulation and moderate policies work for you. I hear the Republicans are looking for people just like you. Oh, wait, that's right! They don't care about African Americans either.

[journalist3072]

22. Time to put your stupid ass on ignore. I'm sick of your diatribe

No matter how hard you try, you are not going to convince me to vote for your candidate, OK? I'm an adult, which means I can think on my own, and I certainly don't need you to tell me who to vote for.

Why don't you go crawl up Obama's behind where you belong?

[Nedsdag]

23. I don't expect to convince you to vote for ANY candidate.

But I WILL take you to task for making ridiculous comments about Obama.

Yes, you're an adult; however, you are a narrow minded, egocentric phony who doesn't deserve Obama's vote nor support.

Besides, I don't have to crawl up Obama's ass because I know what I'm getting. I don't consider a candidate a god like you do Hillary. You're so far up her rear end you probably have brown stains on your teeth.

[Ethelk2044]

26. Obama was correct. That is the very reason why some people are supporting her.

They are supporting Bill because he is now calling in favors. Just like he did earlier this year. Like many people have acknowledge they have received several phone calls from Bill asking for support.

[wndycty]

4. The truth is sour grapes?

Tell me how the Lewis endorsement (which we Obama supporters would have LOVED to have!) is going to help Hillary in Iowa and New Hampshire?

You called it sour grapes, but tell me how its sour grapes and not some manufacturing of controversy that does not exist.

[cuke]

14. Does Obama discuss how HIS endorsements will or will not help Obama in Iowa?

Or is the Lewis endorsement somehow a special case deserving of comment?

[wyldwolf]

29. two parts to this answer

1. No one, including Obama, has explained why the endorsement WILL NOT help Hillary in Iowa
2. Obama went after the endorsement, did not get it, and now says it doesn't matter. Sour grapes.

[Inspired]

5. If endorsements mattered, Dean would now be the president.

He had some of the BEST endorsements in '04. He even had the endorsement of Iowa's beloved Senator Harkin...and came in THIRD.

This is no big deal from any angle.

[Tellurian]

6. What happened to the Feingold for VP endorsement?

an Obama supporter was promoting the "any minute" meme last week..

[ellacott]

12. Lewis originally endorsed Obama

He got pressured to take it back.

The 8 eight years of Bill's presidency is indeed a very important point. Many people wouldn't know much, if anything about Hillary if it wasn't for her husband. Many of her endorsements have a lot to do with returning favors done by Bill. You can't take her husband out of the equation.

[Cha]

25. Wow! Then Obama was very

gracious twice! I would so imagine your last sentence to be amazingly accurate.

Too bad about political "loyality" even when it's not the candidate who you truly favor. And what if Obama becomes our candidate? Then what, John Lewis? :)

[zulchzulu]

15. What confounds me about Lewis endorsing the Goldwater Girl is...

...at the same time he was getting his head bashed in trying to get civil rights enacted in this country, Hillary Clinton was backing and working on the campaign of Barry Goldwater, a man who clearly voted strongly against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, was against Social Security and wanted to undo the New Deal from FDR.



John Lewis apparently could get past that.

:shrug:

[ellacott]

16. That is so very true n/t

Strange bedfellows.

[cuke]

17. Then you should read more about Lewis' contemporary, Martin Luther King Jr

or about the founder of the "non-violent non-cooperation", Mahatma Gandhi. Both understood that the possibility of personal redemption existed within us all and you are referring to something that happened 49 years ago when Clinton was still a child

[Alamom]

28. Did Senator Clinton ever vote for a republican?

[beaconess]

21. He's absolutely right

John Lewis, as great a man as he is, doesn't hold much political sway in Iowa - any more than a Tom Harkin endorsement of Barack Obama in South Carolina would make much difference.

I don't see this as sour grapes. It's just a political reality that's important for Obama to point out before people make more of Lewis' endorsement than it really means.

[AtomicKitten]

24. Great endorsement!

But, Obama is right: it won't help in Iowa.

[illinoisprogressive]

27. Obama doesn't threaten and buy off people for endorsements like Hillary does

[wyldwolf]

30. Threaten? Like who?

[Grandrose]

31. Obama absolutely right!

What I cannot understand, with Hillary being the presumptive winner, why can't African Americans remain uncommitted..what's the rush?
Nevermind...the former black President is calling in the chips for his wife and putting his loyal base of supporters in an untenable situation!
Thanks Bill, I guess we hardly knew ya!:eyes: