Dean supporters for Kerry

[littlejoe]

As someone who has backed a non-winner before, I know how hard it is for you to gather enough enthusiasm for another candidate. To those of you who supported Dean, the Kerry camp welcomes you.

[Citizen Kang]

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don't want to get thrown off when I'm just starting out. Sorry.

[in_cog_ni_to]

7. Welcome to Du, Citizen Kang!

:hi:

[bigwillq]

10. Welcome! Welcome!

Yeah, we want to get to know you, don't get thrown off yet!

[Citizen Kang]

21. Thank you for the warm welcome

I'd like to start a "Dean supporters for Edwards" post, but I don't have the post numbers to do that yet and I don't want to inflame on this thread. I think that if Dean had kept an active campaign, I would have voted for him, but I plan to support Edwards now. Dean himself has said Edwards would be a more attractive choice in November to the general electorate. I think Edwards would give Dean a "seat at the table" so to speak. Something I doubt Kerry would consider. Just a thought.

[bigwillq]

26. When is your primary?

Have you always been a Dean supporter? IF you have been, I suggest you still vote for Dean.

[Citizen Kang]

41. California on Super Tuesday

thats when I'll be voting. Had Dean stayed in the race as a legitimate candidate there is no doubt I would have voted for him. Unfortunately, I don't have the opportunity. I just think my vote has to be for someone who has a chance. Don't get me wrong, I love Dean but I want to have a chance at chosing someone who is still running.

[littlejoe]

28. this is a Dean supporters for Kerry thread

[MercutioATC]

2. Thanks, but I'll be voting for Dean in my state's primary on Super Tuesday

If I wanted the status quo, I'd have been supporting Kerry all along.

[a_random_joel]

3. I am now behind Kerry

But I still find the tone of your post somewhat belittling and inappropriate.

Show a little respect and kindness.

[littlejoe]

29. sorry. I don't exactly dwell on political correctness.

[SinkingInTheRain]

4. Thank you for the offer but I'm working for Kucinich and Dean

America deserves nothing less than these two for change. Kerry is a nice enough guy but he offers little more than Bush.

[littlejoe]

30. Honest enough reply, but as I've stated, this is a

thread for Dean supporters who now endorse Kerry.

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[a_random_joel]

9. Good job

doing the Right's dirty work for them.

Keep dividing the left.

4 more years of Bush, a draft, bankrupt economy, then 8 years of Jeb. Woohoo!!! Idealistic voters rock!

[SinkingInTheRain]

14. It doesn't have to be like that

We can ALL join together and support Kucinich/Dean and put America back on track.

[a_random_joel]

22. Are you sitting down?

Neither Dean nor Kucinich will be the nominee.

Hate to break it to ya.

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[littlejoe]

31. Somewhere down the line you will have a choice to make.

I hope thast choice is Kerry. Left leaning democrats will need to bend some, or they run the risk of twisting slowly in the wind. This is where Kerry comes in. I believe he can provide a bridge between the factions. This is what we want, if we are to have an effective leader. The truth is, a Kucinich could never have any success as president. He is too uncompromising in his beliefs. A noble quality, to be sure, but ineffective and polarizing as leadership qualities.

[DebJ]

16. love your post. Thanks.

[BL_Zebub]

53. I thought it was a rather unholy post myself

Apparently the DLC operatives disagreed. Which is fine with me, because it lets me know that the pitchforks I'm throwing are hitting the bullseye :evilgrin:

[THX1138]

6. I will

hold my nose and vote for Kerry. Thats about it. It has nothing to do with hurt feelings, I knew Dean was out of it after NH. Ironically Kerry was my candidate at first. But watching his performance during this primary has disgusted me quite frankly, the nasty ads, the smears, the dirty telephone tricks. I have lost all respect for the man. Fortunately for him I respect AWOL much less.

[Sean Reynolds]

8. Thank you.

But I can't join. Sorry.

Thanks again.

[bigwillq]

11. Can't join just yet

I'm voting for Dean in my primary and then I'm waiting to see how everything pans out. But if Kerry is the nom, he will get my vote. That kind of sounds redundant b/c Kerry will most likely be the nominee but right now all I could give Kerry is my vote in Nov. if he's the nominee. I don't plan on doing anything more for his cause right now. I am hoping to work and support the grassroots movement.

[JVS]

12. Kerry gets nothing from me.

I'm voting for dean or edwards.

[progressivebydesign]

13. I'm sorry.. but no.

When Kerry, just today, describes a man (Gephardt) in the word below:

"He's a class act," he said. "Under any standard anywhere, he's one of the most decent public people I've met and I'd be proud to have him working with me anywhere at any time."

He is talking about a man who was co-implicated, along with Kerry's money people, in the vile Dean/Osama ad. There is no way, ever, that I will speak highly of Kerry. Ever. Or of Gephardt. Which is a shame, because I've met Gephardt, and thought him to be a nice person. I was wrong. Any people who had a hand in those vile ads, is not worthy of my respect or my vote.

I will vote for the Democratic nominee, regardless of who it is. But I will hold my nose while I do it, if it's Kerry.

[funky_bug]

15. Don't be too hard on the poster

Hey, I'll say it. As a Wes Clark Dem, I backed a non-winner. I threw over 2grand (donations, campaign bobbles, phone calls and stamps) into that campaign, with no Wes Clark '04 to show for it. It sucks, and it sucks to LOSE. It sucks to lose your candidate, for along with that go your hopes and dreams. You guys didn't back Dean JUST because you thought he'd win... you backed him JUST because of who he was and what he stood for and what he inspired in you. I done been there, and I done done it.

I don't think the poster meant any ill-will... perhaps over-enthusiasm carries over in an unintended way, but that wasn't mean to deride anyone.

For what it's worth, Dean supporters (and yes, you STILL are), I've been in your shoes, and I know how you feel.

Just eat some ice-cream out of the carton, stay in your jammies for a day or so, and heal. You've got time to cast your vote. Take your time before you feel the need to re-associate.

[DebJ]

18. thanks for the support. July I will face what I have to. Now, voting

Dean in the primaries. Voting for change in the way the Democratic Party decides to 'represent' us.

[ibegurpard]

17. Haha

You have a good sense of humor!

[littlejoe]

33. Dean is out. What's so funny?

[madfloridian]

34. Dean is on the ballots still in the primaries.

He is just not "actively campaigning." He still has delegates and has asked us to vote for him in the primaries.

[eissa]

19. Thanks for the invite

I have been, and remain, ABB. My husband and I are splitting our vote for the primaries -- I will vote for Dean out of respect and loyalty, and he has decided to back Kerry now.

[funky_bug]

20. I think that's great! Vote your peace!

Gentle thoughts go out to you today...

[DebJ]

23. Dean has not endorsed Kerry. He promised to support in July 'the'

candidate of the party.
I am voting for Dean in the primaries, out of respect for Dean.
And acute dislike of any other options.

[slinkerwink]

24. no thank you

my work belongs with congressional campaigns.

[edzontar]

42. I am staying out of the Kerry-Edwards race because I see no difference

between them.

I live in PA so I have to vote for whoever wins anyway.

I appreciate your kind welcome, but i'm taking some time off now.

Wake me in the fall.

[ldoolin]

25. Sorry

I'm encouraging as many Democrats as possible in the remaining primaries and caucuses to vote for Dennis Kucinich.

John Kerry is just going to have to wait until after he officially gets the nomination before I start to give him any serious consideration. Whether he earns my vote or not will depend on what degree he openly appeals to liberal and left-wing voters and issues during the general election campaign. If he runs to the right or the center - forget it.

[mdmc]

32. I'll vote for this guy

[Crunchy Frog]

38. I'd like to too, but

I don't think John Lennon meets the eligibility requirements to become President of the United States.:evilgrin:

[BL_Zebub]

54. If it means keeping Kerry out of the White House

I'll personally guarantee John Lennon's parole from Hell!

[ldoolin]

40. I would too

Where'd he go? Does anyone know? He seems to have dropped out of sight sometime after 1986 and no later than 1991.

[Anwen]

35. This Dean supporter is not for Kerry.

I'm still voting Dean in the primary. Sorry, I just cannot support Kerry.

[Crunchy Frog]

36. This may be a little premature

As someone who just lost my own candidate, please have some respect, and let people go through the grieving process. This comes off looking like a vulture post, and is very unlikely to win any support for Kerry.

Dean people are entirely capable of evaluating the remaining candidates and coming to their own decisions. They also have the right to continue planning to vote for Dean in the primaries if they want to.

Please give people a little space to come to terms with something that is extremely painful. I know what their going through.

[littlejoe]

37. I offer no pretenses. This is a vulture post, and I am out to try

to gain as much support for Kerry as possible. Time is always of the essence, and political correctness is not always important to me. I'm too busy focusing on beating bush.

[Crunchy Frog]

39. I'm just saying that

if you are trying to win support for Kerry, this sort of post may be counterproductive in that it may do more to alienate than to win support.

I just don't think you're doing your guy any favors.

[Walt Starr]

46. Well, I hope it backfires big time

Vulture posts are horrible, IMO.

[mrgorth]

51. Perhaps you should've let someone else post it

Your tone is bad. The Lennon pic did much more good than your post.

[kaitykaity]

43. Thanks, but I'm not ready yet.

Howard Dean was my hero, because of his courage and his fire. Kerry doesn't have those things, or at least I don't feel them from him. Yet. Maybe I will when the pain goes away.

I'll pull the lever for Kerry this fall, though, b/c I'm ABB.

[hedda_foil]

44. I find it quite remarkable and not at all surprising

That not a single recognizable Dean supporter has joined in your attempt to get us on the bandwagon. You, of course, are entitled to support whomever you wish under whatever circumstances you wish.

I will vote for Dean in my primary. I will work for and donate to Congressional and Senatorial candidates whose values are similar. I will neither work for nor donate to another presidential candidate.

I will vote for the Democratic candidate in November. That alone will be difficult enough.

I have been a Democrat since childhood. I am a Ward Chair and elected director of a very powerful democratic organization. My vote is my voice. My work is my voice. I will not allow it to be usurped or silenced. I am no longer just a party member.

I AM A HOWARD DEAN DEMOCRAT.

[DianeK]

45. i honestly don't understand how

anyone who really supported dean and understood where he was going and what he was about could possibly go for kerry..somebody has got to enlighten me on this one because i just don't get it

[LuminousX]

47. I technically fall in this category as Kerry is the only remaining

candidate who fits my criteria. If he is the nominee, he will get my anti-Bush vote in the GE.

[WyLoochka]

48. I was for Kerry for 3 long decades

After selection '00, I couldn't wait for the '04 campaign to begin, planning to go all out for Kerry.

But he has been a colossal disappointment. His campaign has revealed that he has been too long in DC and, somewhere along the line during that time, he succumbed to being just another disconnected from the people, sell-out politician.

My efforts and money will go to Dean's organization and MoveOn.

If Kerry is nominated, I will wear a clothes pin on my nose when I cast a vote for him in November.

At this point, I don't think I'll have to wear the clothes pin if its Edwards. We'll see.

[LuminousX]

52. Great campaigning idea

I can wear my Dean buttons and hand out clothespins with a Vote for Kerry sign attached to them.

[nolabels]

49. I am going to be voting for who ever isn't *

I am a member of the teamsters by default, Hoffa giving Kerry smooches after the Gep got knocked out in the slug fest with Dean. Endorsements mean nothing if people don't feel like its something they want to get behind

If Kerry wants better support, he will get down in the trenches and see what the rest of the ordinary folks see. He needs to slip off that other America look. 19 years of being a senator is not the same as running for president. Dean worked tirelessly for us little guys, can and is Kerry willing to do the same?

You just don't change horses in midstream and expect for it to be that smooth. I am holding out to see what happens in with the Edwards / Kerry deal anyway. Respect is earned and not given

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

50. Give it up, Little Joe

1. The line of inquiry is premature

2. Let them come to you

3. You are simply inviting more acrimony than anything.

[wadestock]

55. This is exactly the right message .......

My younger brother has never been involved in politics and when he came out from Ohio to visit, he had a box of Dean bumper stickers and had told me he had donated $200 to the campaign.

I really felt for him when his guy went out.
His enthusiasm is gone (I hope temporarily) and I fear people like him won't come out to vote.

But there are very strong common threads we have in this. I even see in my wife an anti-Bush feeling I've never seen her have in I can't remember....and she's as politically neutral as they come.

I respect Dean for what he did. Dean was there early, challenging, anti-war at a time when we really needed it....and was willing to fight. He energized the base.

But Dean supporters do not dispair. My take on all of this is that the problems with Bush are much more obvious than we tend to think. The other candidates do get it....plenty enough of it....they just worked various political strategies they thought would work. I think people will generally get the fact that we aren't safer, the debt is out of control, and the adminstration is generally sleezy.....who really needs another 4 years of Bush....who needs the stomach upset..

This basic stomach upset is going to resonate with the swing vote.
Come on out, maintain the vigor....and send W his walking papers!!