EDWARDS LEADS bush by 10% ...CNN

[bearfartinthewoods]

now WHO is ELECTABLE...huh?????

[Walt Starr]

1. YEAH!!!!

He's got my vote on March 16th!

[One Taste]

2. Kerry leads by twelve..

they're both very electable. I'm really happy to see those numbers for Edwards.:)

[atre]

28. Edwards' ten are more valuable than Kerry's twelve

... because of the Electoral College.

[genius]

3. Good. I like Edwards.

He's the closest to Kucinich, except on the environment.

[59millionmorons]

Kerry/Edwards

I also love Edwards. This is like having to Corvettes.

[corporatewhore]

4. Its the Jobs stupid if DK was givin fair amount of press hed be on top

[Kolesar]

5. from tv? eom

[vi5]

6. Has anyone said Edwards WASN'T electable?

I tend to think that the people who are attracted to Kerry would have no problem with Edwards. Obviously there are exceptions but I can't imagine anyone thinking their were drastic differences between the two beyond the personality traits.

I like Edwards quite a bit. I've never heard anyone who says Kerry is electable say that Edwards wasn't. I think that the foreign policy/military edge that Kerry has makes him slightly more so than Edwards but I think both Johns would have a fighting chance.

Where does Kerry net out in this same poll? (you didn't include a link).

[59millionmorons]

15. I agree

I would back Edwards in a heartbeat. Hell I started out with Kerry then Clark and back to Kerry. Hey I'm flexible. ABB

[mouse7]

7. Kerry led Bush by more in same poll...12 points I believe

Convenient for that to be left out.

This just proves what I've been saying for a long time. Any of the 9 original candiates could have beaten Dumbya in November.

[SangamonTaylor]

10. I thought that was backwards

I just made a thread stating otherwise....I may have misheard it but I am pretty certain that they said that Edwards was doing better on that question than Kerry.

[SangamonTaylor]

14. i heard wrong n/t

[atre]

26. If that's the case, we should have gone with Kucinich

... but I'm not sure it is.

I do think Clark, Kerry, and Edwards could beat Bush. Dean is a closer call, but I think he could as well.

[bearfartinthewoods]

31. NOT an intentional ommision

i wasn't really watchig the tube but perked up when she stated that poll. she then said "that makes Edwards and Kerry essentially even" or words to that effect.
i didn't want to take a stab at guessing her definition of 'essentially' and i knew i couldn't be the only one watching so the info would be posted.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

8. Well done, John Edwards. But the real story is....

Bush is done.

[WilliamPitt]

9. Excellent, excellent news

The two front-runners both match up well against George. I'd say this is a cause for general celebration.

Please resume stabbing each other in the brain now. :)

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

11. If Edwards keeps hammering on job outsourcing and class warfare

he can't lose.

[VolcanoJen]

12. Here are the Poll Numbers

Copied from my Tivo. :-)

CNN just released the newest poll during "Inside Politics." No link yet.

Looks like the Democratic "Mo" continues!!!

CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll Feb 16-17

Question: Likely Voter's Choice for President
Sampling Error +/- 4% points

Edwards 54%
Bush 44%

Kerry 55%
Bush 43%

Question: Honest and Trustworthy? Applies to:

Kerry 61%
Bush 55%

Question: Shares your values? Applies to:

Kerry 53%
Bush 52%

Question: Stands up to Special Interests? Applies to:

Kerry 44%
Bush 45%

[spooky3]

25. and this is a *Gallup* poll!! Amazing.

They are usually the most conservative of all the pollsters.

[ochazuke]

38. Bush stands up to special interests? COME ON!

Question: Stands up to Special Interests? Applies to:

Kerry 44%
Bush 45%

The people need a SERIOUS EDUCATION here!

[bushalert]

13. Edwards doesn't have a chance

He doesn't have the money & organization to compete with Kerry. At this point, Kerry pretty much has it in the bag. Both Kerry & Edwards have very similar ideas on domestic & foreign policy. THey are not that different. I like both of them - my money is on Kerry.

[YNGW]

16. And Dukakis lead Bush by 18%

We're way too far out for polls to mean anything.

If you're on the ballot, you're electable.

[killbotfactory]

17. Bush is toast

And they're both statistically tied at beating Bush.

Go Edwards.

[spooky3]

18. Fantastic!

[David Dunham]

23. No Incumbent to Win Reelection Has Ever Trailed in a Gallup Poll

Therefore, Bush is in real trouble.

[lancdem]

30. Except for Ford in 1976

and he, of course, lost. That was a fadcinating Gallup article, wasn't it?

[VolcanoJen]

32. David, do you have a link to that information?

Now that's some fascinating stuff. I'd love to read the article!

[Snivi Yllom]

34. not entirely true according to Gallup.

But it does indicate current vulnerabilities.

this is from Gallup's last matchup poll

http://www.gallup.com/content/default.asp?ci=10531

February 9, 2004
Bush Deficit in Horse Race Unusual for Incumbents
Only second incumbent to trail at this stage of campaign

by Jeffrey M. Jones


GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- Gallup's most recent trial heat of presidential preferences, from a Jan. 29-Feb. 1 poll, shows President George W. Bush trailing Massachusetts senator and Democratic front-runner John Kerry by a 53% to 46% margin among likely voters. A review of historical trial-heat data from past elections shows it is rare for an incumbent president to be trailing at this stage in a campaign. At the same time, in the eight elections analyzed here, there have been campaigns in which the incumbent led in February but was defeated for re-election in November. As such, it is hard to draw any inferences as to what Bush's current standing means for his re-election prospects.

[Snivi Yllom]

37. more past matchups Gallup polled in Jan-Feb of election years

In seven other elections for which there are comparable data, the incumbent president led his eventual challenger when voters were asked in January or February about their current voting intentions. It should be noted that in a few elections in which the incumbent eventually won, such as those of Ronald Reagan in 1984 and Bill Clinton in 1996, the incumbent trailed the challenger at some point in trial-heat polls conducted in the year prior to the election year.


Year, Candidates January/February data Final outcome

1948
(Jan 2-7)
Truman (D) 46% 50%
Dewey (R) 41 45

1956(Feb 16-21)
Eisenhower (R)63% 57%
Stevenson (D)33 42

1964(Jan 25-30)
Johnson (D)76% 61%
Goldwater (R)20 38


1976(Jan 19-22)
Carter (D) 48% 50%
Ford (R) 46 48

1980 Feb 29-Mar 3)
Reagan (R) 33% 51%
Carter (D) 58 41

1984(Feb 10-13)
Reagan (R)52% 59%
Mondale (D)42 41

1992 (Feb 6-9)
Clinton (D) 38% 43%
Bush (R)5337

1996 (Jan 12-15)
Clinton (D)43%49%
Dole (R)39 41

[lancdem]

19. Actually, they both are

Kerry leads Bush by 12. Two is better than one!

[citizen snips]

20. This is great news.

As long as we keep this nomination going the longer the cameras will pointing at the dems instead of Bush.

[Renew Deal]

21. Media manipulation

I love it.

[West Coast Democrat]

22. Anybody But Bush: A Nationwide Movement Builds Momentum

Thank you, America!!

[King of New Orleans]

24. Oh sure

CNN has a "poll"

But can it compare to the quality of a "Rasmussen"?

Don't get too attached to polls they ebb and flow.

[VolcanoJen]

27. Linky!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-02-18-poll_x.htm

[spooky3]

33. thanks!

[Nazgul35]

29. hahahaha....

that nonsense about electability should have been shot in the ass ages ago....

Guess what folks....you make your own electability!!!!

Anyone of the major candidates would have had a shot at beating Bush...in fact will beat Bush...

I am convinced that we could nominate a bicycle pump and we would win....thing is, I don't want to when we had such good candidates....

[West Coast Democrat]

36. "Electability" involves many important factors

among them: stances on the issues, campaign style, personal style and perceived leadership qualities. The GOP attempted to steer this primary season by declaring that none of our candidates have the "certain something" to connect with voters. I'm glad they've been proven wrong.

[59millionmorons]

35. I hope Tweety see's these numbers

His mouth alone will shout these numbers accross the country, helping to spread the word that Bush is in deep doodoo.

[onehandle]

39. Landslides for either candidate...

Let the fumigation of Washington DC begin!

Out!, Out! Damn Republicans!

[Padraig18]

40. KICK