Hillary

[Jackpine Radical]

(This is a free-association test. Respond with the first thing that pops into your mind.)

[MNDemNY]

1. Mt. Everest?

[Tellurian]

4. Hillary is 44..

[cascadiance]

54. Nah! I know they women lie about their age, but no way is she younger than me! :)

[ginchinchili]

86. Self-interest

[elizm]

2. is not Bill. nt

[Clintonista2]

5. Exactly. I wish Obama supporters would realize that

I'm tired of them making this campaign about Bill.

[movonne]

7. I would be happier if it was Bill...not that I would want either of them

but bill is a better bull shittier..

[elizm]

11. Nice try. nt

[Froward69]

21. Get used to it

The Gop is gonna use the same tactic. and win on it.

[Dawgs]

61. I'll tell you what, when she stops using him, we'll stop using him.

[fenriswolf]

3. dear mercifull god NO

[IndianaJones]

6. winner. nt.

[Kelly Rupert]

8. mmm pie. n/t

[BootinUp]

9. 44

[NoPasaran]

10. Rush Limbaugh's head going BOOM

[Cameron27]

12. Democratic senator

running for POTUS.

[FreakinDJ]

13. Sucks

For dragging the Democratic party down to defeat in 08 and ending the last chance for restoring the constitution to the people

This is an "I told you so" post. Please look it up in Nov of 08

[BootinUp]

17. promise you won't change your

forum name after she wins.

[FreakinDJ]

20. Been the same name for 6 years

wouldn't likely change it for that

But I don't think I'm wrong on this one either. Hilary is not the Big Dog and never will be. Her medical plan was shot down in flames and would be again. She is not a catalyst for change, merely status quo.

Not likely to draw Dem voters to the polls as well as the RATpublican fear of Hilary well.

[BootinUp]

22. catalyst for change

You wanna know who the catalyst for change is? Its American people.

She will be a great Democratic President and along with a Democratic Congress will usher in great changes.

[FreakinDJ]

32. This will seriously BackFire on you

The same hatered for Hilary will bleed over to all Dem candidates and can change the majority share of the House and Senate.

The housing bubble has not fully burst yet. Fuel prices are going to climb as more and more countries divest theirselves of the US dollar. Congessional Dems are going to be blamed for all of this.

What you expect a "Fair and Balanced" media?

There is a reason the RightWing talking heads are pushing Hilary and the reason is they know they can take down the ENTIRE democratic majority

[PurityOfEssence]

14. War.

You asked.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Tenacious

eom

[Danieljay]

16. Cold water, Icebergs and the Titanic.

[Bitwit1234]

18. Obama supporters bashing her.

[Froward69]

19. Arrogance

Blind faith of her supporters. divisive. unelectable. repube lite. Bought. Paid for. just a few...

[Faux pas]

23. Status quo. n/t

[emilyg]

24. President.

[Rockholm]

97. President.

[Danieljay]

25. Giuliani's dream opponant!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070930/ap_po/giuliani_looking_ahead

[Kelly Rupert]

31. Too bad she does best against him of any Democratic candidate. n/t

[Danieljay]

33. Actually your thinking of Edwards. n/t

[Kelly Rupert]

35. Not at all, sir. While Edwards is edging Hillary against Mitt and McCain,

over the last month Edwards has on average beaten Giuliani by 2.0%, while Hillary has by 5.0%.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html

[Danieljay]

40. and when it comes down to the general election... the Blue Dog Democrats will vote for Giuliani.

Sad, but I think true. Its the same people who voted for Bush in 2000 (like my father-in-law) A lifetime union worker who didn't want a president that seemed "smarter than he was". You really think that type of person will vote for a woman? I don't.

I honest to God hope I'm wrong. I dont support Hillary, I don't trust Hillary, I don't care much at all for Hillary, but if I absolutely have to vote for her as opposed to a Republican, I'll plug my nose, prepare myself for 8 more years of war and do it. Phew.

[dmallind]

66. Not me

I manage to self-identify as a Blue Dog despite constant vitriol and outright commands (yeah right) from DU keyboard warriors to leave the party. I will not vote for Giuliani, nor do I know of any other like minded centrist Dem who would.

I would prefer Richardson and, perhaps counterintuitively to some, Edwards over Hillary, but I will gladly fight for and contribute to any Dem candidate other than Gravel and Kucinich, and I would actually still VOTE for either of those over any of the current Republicans, just not much else.

Republicans I think are overestimating Rudy's crossover appeal. So obviously are some Dems.

EDIT - oh and as far as the OP goes "likely winner" is the answer for me. Again not what I WANT, just what I predict. Unless she implodes and loses discipline, it's her race to lose. A rather bold prediction though perhaps - if she doesn't win I'm thinking it's Edwards who'll be best placed to take over not Obama - but any of those three is fine by me so no crying at all if I'm wrong.

[Danieljay]

26. Another: 8 more years of war, win or lose. n/t

[JVS]

27. 2008 electoral disaster

[itsrobert]

28. Appeaser n/t

n/t

[AzDar]

29. Never.

[iconocrastic]

30. Immoral, power hungry, unprincipled, ruthless, not very bright

That's the tip of the iceburg.

[w4rma]

34. Clinton Cackle (nt)

[Semper_FiFi]

68. Funny, Edwards makes me think of "I feel pretty"

You know, the video on youtube of Edwards prancing and primping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AE847UXu3Q

I guess that hair thing has really stuck.

[jzodda]

36. Swank

[jcrew2001]

37. nixon

oh wait, i meant bill

[LWolf]

38. Never. n/t

[Lucinda]

39. Haters

[Danieljay]

41. Any candidate that creates as much division in her/their own party as much as Hillary does..

is not a good candidate. That doesn't make us that dont support her 'haters'. Ridiculous.

[Lucinda]

42. The OP asked for the first word that came to mind...I'd been reading DU

And "haters" was what came to my mind

Where did I say people who don't support Hilalry are haters? There is a big difference between people who dont support her and people who post nasty untrue crap. And you know it. I dont know you, so I dont know which camp you fall into...

[Danieljay]

44. interesting. My response was to your response that is like a lot of others response to those

who dont support her. Your first response proved my point, though it means nothing about you, I'm sure you do know the difference.

[Lucinda]

45. It doesnt "prove" anything

I had read some nasty bashing posts before answering the OP. Pure and simple.
You sure make a lot of assumptions...

[Danieljay]

59. ya, but I don't "hate" her. Hillary supporters are just so sensitive. It doesn't take much to get

ya all worked up. See?

[Donald Ian Rankin]

96. Technically true, but misleading.

It is, as you say, entirely possible to oppose Hillary without hating her.

However, many - it may even be true to say most, although that would be much more debateable - of the posts opposing her on DU are out-and-out hatred, not just principled opposition.

[gorekerrydreamticket]

43. Third term for Bill...

[Forkboy]

46. ...won't get my vote.

[itsrobert]

47. Poop

lol

[tekisui]

48. Who else ya got?

[depakid]

49. panderer

[Odin2005]

50. Not Puke-lite

[ariesgem]

51. Toast

[Desertrose]

52. No-ooooo!!

Oh please god, NO.


:hi: Jackpine;)

DR

[Jackpine Radical]

57. Hi DR

:loveya:

[sandrakae]

53. Madam President.

[ShortnFiery]

55. Go Away ... your own special way ... and please take your attention seeking husband with you? nt

[robcon]

56. leadership

She will lead people and executive branch like she has done in the Senate.

[cascadiance]

58. Obey!

[sniffa]

60. i just puked in my mouth

[Armstead]

62. More of the same old, same old

At a time when the nation is finally ready for a new, more positive and liberal form of politics, Hilary is the tar baby that will perpetuate the Elite Status Quo for another years.

Marginally better than Bush and the GOP -- But Wall St. and the Corporate Elite will still be in charge.

[Mother Of Four]

63. Mock, Phony, Fabricated. nt

[mtnsnake]

64. Goddess of Peace

[sniffa]

72. *snort*

:rofl:

that kiLLs me everytime.

[DeepModem Mom]

65. One tough woman.

[Semper_FiFi]

67. President and former First Lady. n/t

[wyldwolf]

69. What they'll title the movie about her after he second presidential term

[Moochy]

93. Is it a Horror Movie or a Political Thriller?

Either way A Crowd Pleaser!

:popcorn:

[Hell Hath No Fury]

70. Lieberman/Kyle.

And man does that chap my ass. :mad:

[William769]

71. Next President of the United States. NT

[gorekerrydreamticket]

73. the only way we lose in 2008...

[SaveElmer]

74. Historic Victory followed by 8 years of peace and prosperity...nt

[Elidor]

75. ...

[zulchzulu]

76. Nice niece

My sister has a fantastic daughter named Hillary. Great kid...

[Nye Bevan]

77. Smart, experienced, electable

[grateful581]

78. republican win

[Ethelk2044]

79. Lies, Corruption, Money Hungry

[Joe the Revelator]

80. Cackle

[Joe the Revelator]

81. Whiney

[Joe the Revelator]

82. too weak to leave her husband's shadow

[smalll]

83. Winner.

She'll make sure to beat whatever Repub is up against her and she'll take the White House.

[FlaxieB]

84. Power Hungry Legacy Hunter!

[MrMickeysMom]

85. BILLARY

[illinoisprogressive]

87. corrupt and slimey. selfish and self centered. mean and cold and greedy

[Nutmegger]

89. That's such a great picture of Barack....

Thanks for that! :)

[wyldwolf]

95. it's a great description of him, too.

[Midwestern Democrat]

88. Apathy.

I don't dislike Hillary - and if she got the nomination, I would definitely want her to win (she'd be better than any Republican by a long shot) - but I can't say that I'm terribly EXCITED about the prospect of another Clinton presidency - I disagreed with a lot of Clinton's policies, was burned out by all the melodrama (the Monica/impeachment debacle, for me, was the last straw), and was not remotely happy with the election performance of the Democratic Party during the Clinton administration.

Again, I'd vote for her if she got the nomination, but I would also be considerably less emotionally invested in her candidacy than I would be in an Edwards, Biden, Obama, Dodd, or Richardson candidacy - but then again, given the aggressive awfulness of the current GOP, "Anybody but a Republican" is likely all the passion I need.

[Carrieyazel]

90. Unelectable

[saracat]

91. Female Lieberman!

[Apollo11]

92. Tammy Wynette

"Stand By Your Man" B-)

[Donald Ian Rankin]

94. President

[SIMPLYB1980]

98. President.