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jmoss Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:22 PM
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Edwards has demonstrated ability to attract swing votes!
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 12:22 PM by jmoss
.....and we want to win in November, right?! --not just see "our candidate" win. In the beginning of it all in last September, I didn't know who to pull for. But in my mind, I see John Edwards, not Sen. Kerry, as the one who candidate left who can energize the disgruntled GOP'ers and independents to win in swing States (e.g., midwest/GOP land, Tennessee).

I pray that we can all see past the current Kerry-media-hype, and take a closer look at what has been happening in every State where John Edwards has been able to seriously compete--he's come in 1st or 2nd, because independents are coming out and voting for him!!

The difference is, if we don't have Edwards on the top of our ticket, Democrats will still vote Democrat--but most "on the fence" Indi's & Repug's are merely going to stand behind the current President.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:25 PM
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1. For the "Anti-Kerrys" out there:
John Edwards belongs to the DLC too.

http://www.ndol.org/new_dem_dir_action.cfm
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:35 PM
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6. As we learned with Dean, past membership doesn't guarantee future support
and Dan Schorr said on NPR that the DLC doesn't like Edwards because he's anti-NAFTA.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:27 PM
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2. Those aren't swing votes, they are Bush supporters.
36% of voters who were 'enthusiastic about Bush' voted for Edwards
32% of voters who were 'enthusiastic about Bush' voted for Dean
10% of voters who were 'enthusiastic about Bush' voted for Kerry
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/epolls/WI/index.html
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:29 PM
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3. HI again! Good to see that you are keeping up the fight for....
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:40 PM
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9. A vote is a vote.
He also beats Kerry in the people satisfied with Bush, who are more in play. The closer to the center you go, the more votes Edwards picks up, and that is a good thing.
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carolinayellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:42 PM
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10. Your link disproves your claim
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 12:44 PM by carolinayellowdog
19.2% of all votes cast were Dems voting for Edwards (.62x.31)
11.6% of all votes cast were Independents voting for Edwards(.29x.40)
3.9% of all votes cast were Repugs voting for Edwards (.09x.44)

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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 01:01 PM
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15. I didn't 'claim' anything.
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 01:06 PM by Feanorcurufinwe
I pointed out that 90% of the Wisconsin primary voters who stongly support Bush voted against Kerry

36% of voters who were 'enthusiastic about Bush' voted for Edwards
32% of voters who were 'enthusiastic about Bush' voted for Dean
10% of voters who were 'enthusiastic about Bush' voted for Kerry
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/epolls/WI/index.html


Those aren't swing voters.



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guajira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:32 PM
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4. In Wisconsin, Republicans were Allowed to Vote for Dems!
The media is pushing Edwards big time - making it sound like he and Kerry are practically neck and neck.

And B* surely would prefer not having Kerry, a Vietnam Veteran and medal winner, someone with years of experience in domestic and foreign policy. I'm a Clark supporter but at this time, I want the most electable candidate.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:36 PM
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7. Adam Nagourney and Tim Russert said he should drop out despite big
finish.

That's support?
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jpgpenn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:33 PM
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5. Dupe?
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:37 PM
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8. More importantly, he's able to fire up a forgotten base
of people from a low socioeconomic status that don't vote.
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Noon_Blue_Apples Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:44 PM
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11. Sorry, I thought I read 'swinger' votes

nevermind

B
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:46 PM
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12. Fortunately for Kerry
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 12:47 PM by Nicholas_J
The Super Tueday States are all Democrat Only primaries. You must be a registered Democrat to vote in them, which is why most political pundits do not see Wisconsin as bringing Edwards any further in his electoral college support on super tuesday where Kerry's lead is still very comanding, Particularly in New York where Edwards was polling in 4th place (distant 4th) and In California, where he was in 4th (not so distant though). Very few primaries allow independents or Republicans to vote in the Democratic primaries.
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jmoss Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 01:05 PM
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16. Check your facts, ye Kerry supporter!
four States on Super Tuesday are open Primaries, including Vermont. This bodes well for Edwards, again.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:48 PM
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13. The best part about Swing Votes
is their cool shoes, retro clothes and nice dance moves...
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:59 PM
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14. He hasn't demonstrated the ability to attract a consistent
majority of solid democratic voters yet. I consider that to be far more important.
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jmoss Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 01:07 PM
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17. ..but once people in the public see him, and hear his ads..
.....he builds a support-base in a matter of a week. He has closed huge polling gaps in Missouri, Wisconsin, and Tennesse. He won in South Carolina & (almost) in Oklahoma. When he competes..(meaning $$$$)..he's a VERY strong candidate. I hope people realize this before we just parade Kerry off to Novemeber's election.
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