Hillary being ripped by newspaper

[bigdarryl]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/2007/09/26/2007-09-26_hillary_flipflops_contradicts_bill___her.html
Hillary flip-flops, contradicts Bill - & herself - in N.H. debate

[FrenchieCat]

1. As was predicted......

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3552212&mesg_id=3552212

[superkia]

2. If shes the nominee, the republicans will tear her up.

And we will probably get stuck with another republican president. I really hope this is not what people want, we need change.

[FrenchieCat]

3. What makes you think that the Republicans won't tear any of the others up......

Please show me the Crystal Ball!

They will savage whomever we run. It is not "who" we run that counts, it's "How" our candidate will respond that counts....and I don't, for one minute believe that Hillary will allow attacks to go unanswered any more than any other Dem candidate.

[bigdarryl]

4. you have a point but her views back and forth damn i don't want to think will happen in the general

[Cameron27]

6. You can take it to the bank that she'll

fight harder than anyone else running, and come out on top. That's one thing I know and like about Clinton...both of them.

[durrrty libby]

9. Don't worry your pretty little head. Hers are bigger than yours. She can handle it

[superkia]

10. I believe she provides them with more ammo than any of the others!

[Sparkly]

12. I don't. They CREATE ammo out of nothing. nt

[superkia]

14. What will Americans react to more, real bullets or blanks?

The bullets provide real damage the blanks are just a scare tactic.

[FrenchieCat]

21. It's not how many shots that are fired that counts........it's how many

are shot without the other side shooting back.

[Sparkly]

22. They fired blanks at John Kerry, as an example. nt

[RaleighNCDUer]

29. Of course she'll answer them. That doesn't mean anyone will

listen. And when her attacks are printed on the front page, and her answers buried on page 16, what then?

[durrrty libby]

5. You never ever tire of swallowing the same gop shit over and over?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. You're Right... The Pugs Are Making Mincemeat Out Of Her

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm

[Cameron27]

11. !

Wow, she's kicking some RW ass.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Yes, Indeedy...

eom

[rinsd]

16. Really? you think they would take it easy on a New Age vegan on his 3rd wife who is half his age?

[illinoisprogressive]

7. About time someone vets her

[superkia]

13. Its like we have a cocky football team that is asking for an upset.

Sometimes that cockiness becomes self defeating and we should all hope that it doesn't happen when the country's future is at stake, not a game.

[durrrty libby]

18. Yeah..Something like the New England Patriots

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Or To Grab A Basketball Analogy

The San Antonio Spurs...

[durrrty libby]

25. I'd use my baseball team but I don't want to jinx them. Game on

[rinsd]

15. Instead of joining in with the flying monkey of the right by spreading their story

Here's the article

""It cannot be American policy, period," Clinton (D-N.Y.) told debate moderator Tim Russert, who asked if there should be a presidential exemption to allow the torture of a terror chieftain if authorities knew a bomb was about to go off, but didn't know where it was.

When Russert revealed ex-President Bill Clinton advocated such a policy on a recent NBC "Meet the Press" appearance, Hillary Clinton won huge applause from the Dartmouth College audience with a deadpan comeback:

"Well, I'll talk to him later."

She may have to give herself that talk, too.

Last October, Clinton told the Daily News: "If we're going to be preparing for the kind of improbable but possible eventuality, then it has to be done within the rule of law."

She said then the "ticking time bomb" scenario represents a narrow exception to her opposition to torture as morally wrong, ineffective and dangerous to American soldiers.

"In the event we were ever confronted with having to interrogate a detainee with knowledge of an imminent threat to millions of Americans, then the decision to depart from standard international practices must be made by the President, and the President must be held accountable," she said."

There's no contradiction there. Torture should not be part of American policy

Here's the whole quote -

RUSSERT: I want to move to another subject, and this involves a comment that a guest on "Meet the Press" made, and I want to read it, as follows: "Imagine the following scenario. We get lucky. We get the number three guy in Al Qaida. We know there's a big bomb going off in America in three days and we know this guy knows where it is. Don't we have the right and responsibility to beat it out of him? You could set up a law where the president could make a finding or could guarantee a pardon."



CLINTON: As a matter of policy it cannot be American policy period.

I met with those same three- and four-star retired generals, and their principal point -- in addition to the values that are so
important for our country to exhibit -- is that there is very little evidence that it works. Now, there are a lot of other things that we need to be doing that I wish we were: better intelligence; making, you know, our country better respected around the world; working to have more allies.

But these hypotheticals are very dangerous because they open a great big hole in what should be an attitude that our country and our president takes toward the appropriate treatment of everyone. And I think it's dangerous to go down this path.

So where is the contradiction? Hillary is clear that torture should not be part of American policy and that staying with in the rule of law is paramount.

[emilyg]

27. I love her

:loveya:

[Nimrod2005]

19. Well deserved, rest assured.........I was watching.

[calteacherguy]

20. She's probably had conversations with Clark about the torture issue since then. nt

[emilyg]

28. Smart woman.

[ShortnFiery]

23. Good. nt

[emilyg]

26. But - I thought the media loved her