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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:31 PM
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BREAKING: Lieberman-Kyl’s Iran amendment passes.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/26/breaking-lieberman-kyls-iran-amendment-passes/

By a vote 76-22, the Senate passed the Lieberman-Kyl amendment, which threatens to “combat, contain and ” Iran via “military instruments.” Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) called the amendment “Cheney’s fondest pipe dream” and said it could “read as a backdoor method of gaining Congressional validation for military action
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:34 PM
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1. If the human race survives, this will be viewed as one of "the darkest days" in American History.
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

From the folks who brought us "shock and awe."

What will they call terrorizing the Iranian populace? :grr: :nuke: :grr:
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:36 PM
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3. Hillary's an awful candidate with a voting record that can be ripped to shreds
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:37 PM
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4. Yet another awful vote, but then again Hillary's an awful candidate
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 03:37 PM by Carrieyazel
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:50 PM
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28. It really is a sad day...
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 05:21 PM by polichick
Bless us all!

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:35 PM
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2. The fix is in!
I'm one sick dog.

Barack Obama - U.S. Senator for Illinois didn't even bother to vote?
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:37 PM
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5. Voting against:
UPDATE II: The roll call for the vote is here. The following senators voted against the amendment:

Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Dodd (D-CT)
Feingold (D-WI)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Leahy (D-VT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Sanders (I-VT)
Tester (D-MT)
Webb (D-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)

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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:39 PM
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7. I see Caseytorum's name is not on this list.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:41 PM
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8. nor are Clinton and Obama's ?
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:42 PM
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10. Clinton: FOR, Obama: Not Voting -eom
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:56 PM
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21. Both UNACCEPTABLE.
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 03:56 PM by Totally Committed
Anyone still voting for her in the Primary should be ASHAMED.

And, Obama should be ashamed of hiding in the cloakroom during the vote, too. Not going on record against this loudly and clearly says one thing: TACIT APPROVAL.

TC
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:41 PM
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9. yeah, he voted FOR it. Being Pro-Life and all.... -eom
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Hersheygirl Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:49 PM
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27. Yeah, why couldn't we
have someone like Feingold, or Kerry or Biden. Gosh, I am so jealous of the states that have those guys.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:47 PM
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16. It's interesting how unified the senior SRFC Democrats are on this
THe top 5 Democrats all were nos - Biden, Dodd, Kerry, Feingold, Boxer. Not too mention the 2 Republicans: Lugar, Hagel. (Webb was also a no - he's the Democrat with the lowest senority.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:37 PM
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6. Topic subject Text of what actually passed: Kyl Amendment
Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Text of what actually passed: Kyl Amendment
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1913722#1913722
1913722, Text of what actually passed: Kyl Amendment
Posted by CanonRay on Wed Sep-26-07 03:28 PM

I had heard that it had been amended before passage; this is what passed. I think Bushco has what they need... :nuke:

(b) Sense of Senate.--It is the sense of the Senate--

(1) that the manner in which the United States transitions and structures its military presence in Iraq will have critical long-term consequences for the future of the Persian Gulf and the Middle East, in particular with regard to the capability of the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran to pose a threat to the security of the region, the prospects for democracy for the people of the region, and the health of the global economy;

(2) that it is a vital national interest of the United States to prevent the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran from turning Shi'a militia extremists in Iraq into a Hezbollah-like force that could serve its interests inside Iraq, including by overwhelming, subverting, or co-opting institutions of the legitimate Government of Iraq;

(3) that it should be the policy of the United States to combat, contain, and roll back the violent activities and destabilizing influence inside Iraq of the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran, its foreign facilitators such as Lebanese Hezbollah, and its indigenous Iraqi proxies;

(4) to support the prudent and calibrated use of all instruments of United States national power in Iraq, including diplomatic, economic, intelligence, and military instruments, in support of the policy described in paragraph (3) with respect to the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran and its proxies;

(5) that the United States should designate the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps as a foreign terrorist organization under section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act and place the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps on the list of Specially Designated Global Terrorists, as established under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act and initiated under Executive Order 13224; and

(6) that the Department of the Treasury should act with all possible expediency to complete the listing of those entities targeted under United Nations Security Council Resolutions 1737 and 1747 adopted unanimously on December 23, 2006 and March 24, 2007, respectively.
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:47 PM
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15. This basically officially declares Iran a Terrorist State..... and can
and most probably WILL be used by the WH as justification for any
attack against Iran !!!

fuckers outwitted the Senate !!!...

War is now just moments away !!!!
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:48 PM
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17. That would be fucking hilarious had the US not already turned Iraq over to shi'a terrorists,
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 03:49 PM by policypunk
The Bush regime was so caught up on the eeeeevil baathists (aka the only secularists in the arab world) that they were not paying attention to who they were giving the keys too!
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 05:02 PM
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30. This is NOT the version voted on. Go to this link:
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:43 PM
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11. I can't back any candidate that voted for this bill.
In fact, I'll fight to see they don't get elected.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:46 PM
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14. No *hit Sherlock! n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:53 PM
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20. The next step is the Iran War Resolution.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:43 PM
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12. Vote breakdown here: (McCain and Obama Not Voting)
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00349


U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 1st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate

Vote Summary

Question: On the Amendment (Kyl Amdt. No. 3017 as Modified )
Vote Number: 349 Vote Date: September 26, 2007, 12:44 PM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Amendment Agreed to
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 3017 to S.Amdt. 2011 to H.R. 1585 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008)
Statement of Purpose: To express the sense of the Senate regarding Iran.
Vote Counts: YEAs 76
NAYs 22
Not Voting 2

Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State

Alphabetical by Senator Name
Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Allard (R-CO), Yea
Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Nay
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Nay
Brown (D-OH), Nay
Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Nay
Cantwell (D-WA), Nay
Cardin (D-MD), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Casey (D-PA), Yea
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Clinton (D-NY), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Coleman (R-MN), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Corker (R-TN), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
DeMint (R-SC), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Nay
Dole (R-NC), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Nay
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Nay
Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Nay
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Nay
Kerry (D-MA), Nay
Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Nay
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Nay
Martinez (R-FL), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Not Voting
McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Obama (D-IL), Not Voting
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Smith (R-OR), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Sununu (R-NH), Yea
Tester (D-MT), Nay
Thune (R-SD), Yea
Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Webb (D-VA), Nay
Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Nay
Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State

Grouped By Vote Position
YEAs ---76
Akaka (D-HI)
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lott (R-MS)
Martinez (R-FL)
McConnell (R-KY)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Schumer (D-NY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)


NAYs ---22
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Dodd (D-CT)
Feingold (D-WI)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Leahy (D-VT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Sanders (I-VT)
Tester (D-MT)
Webb (D-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)


Not Voting - 2
McCain (R-AZ)
Obama (D-IL)



Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State

Grouped by Home State
Alabama: Sessions (R-AL), Yea Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Alaska: Murkowski (R-AK), Yea Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Arizona: Kyl (R-AZ), Yea McCain (R-AZ), Not Voting
Arkansas: Lincoln (D-AR), Nay Pryor (D-AR), Yea
California: Boxer (D-CA), Nay Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Colorado: Allard (R-CO), Yea Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Connecticut: Dodd (D-CT), Nay Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
Delaware: Biden (D-DE), Nay Carper (D-DE), Yea
Florida: Martinez (R-FL), Yea Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Georgia: Chambliss (R-GA), Yea Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI), Yea Inouye (D-HI), Nay
Idaho: Craig (R-ID), Yea Crapo (R-ID), Yea
Illinois: Durbin (D-IL), Yea Obama (D-IL), Not Voting
Indiana: Bayh (D-IN), Yea Lugar (R-IN), Nay
Iowa: Grassley (R-IA), Yea Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Kansas: Brownback (R-KS), Yea Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Kentucky: Bunning (R-KY), Yea McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Louisiana: Landrieu (D-LA), Yea Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Maine: Collins (R-ME), Yea Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Maryland: Cardin (D-MD), Yea Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Massachusetts: Kennedy (D-MA), Nay Kerry (D-MA), Nay
Michigan: Levin (D-MI), Yea Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Minnesota: Coleman (R-MN), Yea Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay
Mississippi: Cochran (R-MS), Yea Lott (R-MS), Yea
Missouri: Bond (R-MO), Yea McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
Montana: Baucus (D-MT), Yea Tester (D-MT), Nay
Nebraska: Hagel (R-NE), Nay Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Nevada: Ensign (R-NV), Yea Reid (D-NV), Yea
New Hampshire: Gregg (R-NH), Yea Sununu (R-NH), Yea
New Jersey: Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM), Nay Domenici (R-NM), Yea
New York: Clinton (D-NY), Yea Schumer (D-NY), Yea
North Carolina: Burr (R-NC), Yea Dole (R-NC), Yea
North Dakota: Conrad (D-ND), Yea Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Ohio: Brown (D-OH), Nay Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Oklahoma: Coburn (R-OK), Yea Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Oregon: Smith (R-OR), Yea Wyden (D-OR), Nay
Pennsylvania: Casey (D-PA), Yea Specter (R-PA), Yea
Rhode Island: Reed (D-RI), Yea Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
South Carolina: DeMint (R-SC), Yea Graham (R-SC), Yea
South Dakota: Johnson (D-SD), Yea Thune (R-SD), Yea
Tennessee: Alexander (R-TN), Yea Corker (R-TN), Yea
Texas: Cornyn (R-TX), Yea Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Utah: Bennett (R-UT), Yea Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Vermont: Leahy (D-VT), Nay Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Virginia: Warner (R-VA), Yea Webb (D-VA), Nay
Washington: Cantwell (D-WA), Nay Murray (D-WA), Yea
West Virginia: Byrd (D-WV), Nay Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Wisconsin: Feingold (D-WI), Nay Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Wyoming: Barrasso (R-WY), Yea Enzi (R-WY), Yea
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:32 PM
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25. thank you
This is scary.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:45 PM
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13. Could these people at least find Bin Laden first
before we go starting another unnecessary war? What do these congress critters fear that we do not? My guess is that we are totally screwed. *ush will bomb Iran and we will be to embroiled in war for elections to be held. Done deal.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:51 PM
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18. I actually gasped when I saw this
Fuckers. Well, if WW3 or nuclear war ever results from this-their goddamn kids are going to die too. GOD they make me sick.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:51 PM
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19. I give up. I do not want to be associated with a party whose members
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 04:06 PM by Emillereid
fall for this kind of bullshit again. The Democratic Party is nothing more than fascism's enablers.

Why can't the Dems get a grip and realize the way they are being had -- the neo-cons are demonizing Ahmadinejad and Iran in order to justify another war of aggression. Ahmadinejad isn't even particularly powerful or popular. Who cares what he thinks about the Holocaust or the Zionists - besides when one reads him carefully his statements are not as they are portrayed by the media.)

American foreign policy should not be the same as Israel's. (Personally I agree with Ahmadinejad that there should be a one-state solution as in South Africa and if people of Jewish ancestry become the minority, so be it. These artificial divisions between people are THE problem and should not be encouraged -- we can no longer as a species afford them.)

Furthermore, so far, the IAEA has found nothing that indicates Iran's nuclear program is anything more than a bid to gain nuclear energy which is Iran's right. And if Iran is trying to build a weapon, what gives us the right to pick and choose who gets this weapon -- seems like we have no problem with India and Pakistan and Israel having it, but we draw the line at Iran -- why? Because we're racists? Anti-muslim? Because Israel is afraid of Iran? Or wants to be the only nuclear power in the mid-east? Or because we insist on being the supreme bully in the mid-east and will tolerate no other potential powers. Because Iran benefits from our debacle in Iraq? Iran is one of the few countries that has not provoked a war in a long, long time. So where is the source of this anti-Iran hysteria? And if we're so concerned with the anti-proliferation treaty -- why aren't we and the other nuclear powers disarming as we promised? Should someone bomb us for being in violation of the treaty?

I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE IRANIANS -- BUT I AM VERY, VERY AFRAID OF THOSE WHO ARE!
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USA_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:05 PM
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23. ''The Democratic Party is nothing more than fascism's enablers. ''

Yup. What a shame. As I have said all along: the Dems do not want to win in 2007 or in 2008.

There can be no question about it now.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:03 PM
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22. I am so angry that these jerks are still pushing the military agenda.
What will it TAKE for them to stop the madness! :mad:
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kmccaskill Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:28 PM
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24.  obama
Chris Matthews of hardball just reported Obama came down with the stomach flu, but he will try to make the debate
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 05:00 PM
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29. Well, I feel like shit today, so if that's for real...
I'm with him! :-)
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USA_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:23 PM
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33. Well, at least it will now silence the pro draft people on DU
Now that they know that a draft will not stop Bush's war plans because he gets so much support from Democrats, this will likely silence the pro draft advocates.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:42 PM
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26. How can we declare that the military of a sovereign nation is a terrorist organization??
:wtf:

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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 05:04 PM
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31. please note the bill was changed to leave out the "combat, contain"
paragraphs three and four, so says your source.

Unless there is something hidden in the emergency economic power act that allows military action (which is not improbable.... hmmmmm).
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:21 PM
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32. Hillary is now off the radar ... Obama is a political coward
Dennis Kucinich is looking better and better.


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