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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:31 AM
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Even Republicans know they're screwed
Apparantly, the only people in the world who think the Republicans have a shot in 2008 are the folks at DU:

Fatalism Dominates GOP Outlook For '08
Sam Stein

The Republican Party is in such bad shape heading into the 2008 congressional elections that many insiders are all but convinced things will get worse before they get better. The blame, some say, lies within the party itself.

Recent reports coming from the National Republican Congressional and Senatorial Committees paint a picture of institutions on the brink of bankruptcy and organizational disrepair. The Republican Party has ceded its traditional fundraising advantages to the Democrats. Recruiting conservative candidates to run for congressional office has proved exceedingly difficult. Even worse, several Republicans officials bemoaned, there is no short-term solutions on the horizon.

"In my lifetime you'd have to go back 30 years to find another time when the party committees were in such dire straits," Craig Shipley, president of the Republican public relations firm Shirley & Banister Public Affairs, told the Huffington Post. "The stimulus in the 70s was that the grassroots became disgusted with the abandonment of conservative principles and corruption of the party. The same thing is happening today. There is just a bad odor in the party right now."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/09/25/fatalism-dominates-gop-ou_n_65815.html
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:34 AM
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1. But, they are not REALLY screwed. Not really.
They have a whole entity within THIS Party ready to pick up their Neo-Con ball and run with it. They may not get re-elected (or maybe they will), but their policies will live on. And on, and on, and on........

TC

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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:34 AM
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2. It's no time to get complacent...
always campaign like you're far behind. "Some people say" Democrats have little to worry about in the coming elections. "Some people" have been horribly, horribly wrong before.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:36 AM
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4. I agree. The GOP wants to win and every election trick will be played out.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:35 AM
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3. I have the solution for them but they won't take it
INTROSPECTION. Then again if I were them I wouldn't want to look at myself either.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:37 AM
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5. Are you kidding me? I really think they will take an objective look
at themselves...










...and blame Clinton.

:P
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:40 AM
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7. Good point, BOSS. For all their talk of family values and
compassionate conservatism, they have failed miserably at living up to either one.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:38 AM
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6. They deserve all the fatalism they get
BUT the Dems still have to put forth a vision of where they(we?) want to lead the country. This is the chance to turn it around.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:47 AM
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8. Let's be careful here.
I have no doubt that they're in bad shape, but I wonder if a lot of this type of talk is aimed at making us complacent. We need to work as if we're lagging behind a tough opponent.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:50 AM
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9. They've got the money, the media, and a heavily-rigged system. And yet they still can't win.
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 07:53 AM by Perry Logan
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Fozzledick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:44 AM
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10. "There is just a bad odor in the party right now."
DUH!:wow:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:50 AM
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11. That's good, because we're the ones who can't become complacent...
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 08:52 AM by ClassWarrior
...over the next year. The only way the Rape-Publicans will steal another one is if activists like us become complacent.

NGU.


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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:12 AM
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12. Another blow to the party
is some Christians are getting on the environmental band wagon big time. It was on CNN (I think), I was waiting for something and it was on TV where Christians are commanded from the bible to take care of the earth.

zalinda
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:17 AM
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13. Complacency would be bad, but it's hard to deny that the
Republicans are down for the count. They face many years in the wilderness or maybe extinction like their forebears, the Whigs. But if they expire, it will be like the death of a skunk; the odor will still hang in the air and spoil the picnic.

I think the Democratic Party - which is both the party of the working people of this country and the natural party of government - will be dominant for years to come. However, there are two wings in the Democratic Party, and the real political struggle will be between those two wings.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:18 AM
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14. They are screwed.
It'll take them at least 12 years to recover from Bush. We need to make hay while the sun is shining. :)
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midlife_mo_Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:32 AM
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15. I can't tell you how many repubs I know who are disillusioned
including some officers in the military. And I think most of them will vote democratic this time around.

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