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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:39 AM
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I Want A Candidate Who Can Get Down And Dirty In Beating Bush
My personal distaste for Kerry doesn't prevent from realising that he is the one who can take on Bush and Rove and his ad refuting the latest attack from the GOP assures me of this.

I am not going to endorse Kerry. My posts in DU Primary forum are now calling things as I see them UNBIASED.

Kerry is more the street fighter than Edwards.

Again, just calling them as I see them.

By the way, when the story came out about Trippi stealing tickets away from an opponent in a long ago Democratic event... most people were horrified.

I, on the other hand, pretty much admired him for it.

Politics is a blood sport. Kerry has been in it and knows how to win.

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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:45 AM
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1. Hello? The majority of voters can not relate to what you have
just posted.

All most people care about is having their garbage picked up, streets cleaned, and being left alone.

If the majority of DU posters don't understand that we are not the people who will decide the winner of the GE, then I give up.

It's GOP women, and Independent voters who will decide the winner.

Just go back and listen to Kerry's speech Tuesday night and convinence me that he is a candidate who can rally GOP Women and Independents.

I am very, very concerned.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:49 AM
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4. We Need To Beat Bush and The GOP "Mean Machine"
for garbage to get elected.

And the National Polls suggest Kerry can do it.

With the right VP pick, a unified Democratic Party and effective advertising... Kerry will win... he will do whatever it takes.
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EXE619K Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:53 AM
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6. If the national polls are that accurate...
Why bother voting for Kerry?

Will Kerry do "whatever it takes" to win?

Will John F. Kerry put out another "Osama" ad on Edwards now?

Sadly, I believe you.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:56 AM
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7. Hopefully Someone WILL Do An Osama Ad Against Edwards
so Edwards can be held accountable for his lack of pertinent experience.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:59 AM
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8. hopefully, that will be enough....
a $300 million warchest like bush has may be difficult to overcome.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:01 AM
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9. Only 36% of the eligible voters bothers to even get out and
vote in 2000. We are a country of TV fantasy politics. The only sin the general population can understand is sex. The stuff the republicans do is so obtuse, it's hard to understand the crime. So the republicans screem sex at the Democrats and hope it stick. We need people registering and voting.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:28 AM
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12. Independent Voters and Women? How do we know that they aren't with us here
How do we know that Independent's aren't so disgusted with both parties over Corporate Corruption, vanishing health care, and all the rest of it that they don't cry out for change? Women are polling overwhelmingly against the Iraq Invasion so how do we know that they don't agree with those of us here who protested against the Iraq Invasion and that they aren't concerned about job loss, health care, declining education standards and the take over of our Democratic process by Right Wingers and Fundamentalists who want to end most social progress that women achieved in the 20th Century?




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EXE619K Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:45 AM
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2. Kerry?
A "street fighter"?

Wow!
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MrSoundAndVision Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:47 AM
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3. The vote for Dennis Kucinich
Because when it comes to the illegal war, John Kerry can't say anything, or at least hasn't except that he'll send in more troops.

Universal Health care, preK for all, public college education, what can Bush say to these proposals..."uh that don't make sense", "fuzzy math", these issues are just unbeatable issues because they are in the public interest.

Dennis Kucinich will break up the media monopolies, the farming monopolies, he will take on the oil corporations polluting our democracy.

John Kerry accepted more special interest money than any other Senator in the history of the Senate. He is a bought man.

John Kerry is the weakest candidate against GW Bush.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:51 AM
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5. Dennis Has Some Bizarre Notion The UN Can/Would Do Iraq
sorry, I gave up on Dennis a while ago.

He is not a National Candidate IMO.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:04 AM
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10. Please don't fall for the lie
about the special interest money!

John Kerry accepted more money from individual donors who listed their occupations as something that is considered to be "special interest", such as a lobbyist, than any other Senator over the last 15 years.

"Special interest money", however, also includes PACs, Which the Senator does not accept. When the PAC contributions are added into the mix, John Kerry's standing drops to #92 out of 100 Senators.

That is a very long way from more than "any other Senator in the history of the Senate".

We cannot allow the right to now say our candidates cannot accept contributions from individuals because they may fit into the rather vast category of special interests, without pointing out that 1 or 2K does not a "bought man" make. 100 or 200K from the PACs is where the influence peddling starts.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:18 AM
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11. Lobbyists For Industries Are How Kerry Got Money LEGALLY
doens't mean it's ethical... just another form of special interest money politicians get.

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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:38 AM
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14. You said, however,
that Kerry accepted "more special interest money" than any other Senator in the history of the Senate. You are now agreeing, apparently, that individual contributions are just one form of special interest money. Do you acknowledge that he places 92nd out of 100 Senators when the PAC $$ is added in? How that makes him #1 over any other senator in the history of the Senate is beyond me!

Individual $1,000 or $2000 contributions does not make a man,"on the take" as Howard Dean accused. How many of the Governor's contributors this year, to his campaign, have listed as their occupations something falling within the "special interest" category?

I am not absolutely sure, but I think i have heard that it is actually more than what Kerry has gotten this cycle.
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tobius Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:34 AM
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13. uh..., that don't make sense
An issue that sounds good doesn't make it unbeatable. There are people against monopolies inc. gov't monopolies. Public college education sounds good , but how easy would it be to point out the results from our current public education system?

Many including myself; think that ideally, in a perfect world, a Dept. of Peace would be great. But why do you think the other candidates are not picking up that idea? They're against peace?
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