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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:13 AM
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Edwards would get crushed in the general election...


He could get tagged unfairly with the "he's too green" meme and it would stick like glue.

Bush would play up the threats and the RNC would push the whole "Edwards is a wussy, pretty boy"...

He would get crushed.

I really, truly believe this.

He does well with Democrats because he has largely gone unscrutinized, but Americans want a president with that "resolve" that Kerry has...

I was and still am a Dean supporter but I think an Edwards nomination would be suicide.
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DemDogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:14 AM
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1. Is this a legitimate discussion or just flame bait?
Not biting
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:15 AM
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11. not flame bait . . . this assessment is right on the money . . .
fair or not, Bush (and his $200 mil) will tag Edwards with the green label, and the election will play out as the experienced "dad" versus the inexperienced "kid" . . . the election won't even be close . . .
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:19 AM
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2. If this is true...
...Kerry should be able to destroy Edwards in the next few weeks.

Edwards is relying on the centrist Democrats and Independents for his support, and if these people will be wooed away by Rove with the "he's too green" meme, Kerry should be able to exploit it. He has been doing it reasonable effectively thus far, and if it is truly a weakness, Kerry should be able to run away with the nomination.

Everything about Edwards is out in the open. Your only question is whether or not a political tactic would be successful. This question will be answered before the end of the primary season.
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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:33 AM
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8. good point
If this turns into a close Kerry vs. Edwards contest, it might be healthy to see them really bite into each other - see which one is best at taking the heat.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:24 AM
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3. Edwards/Graham or Edwards/Clark
Would balance the experience question...
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:25 AM
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4. This Election Will be Decided by Economics
The more I see of the candidates, the better I think Edwards will do. I may not like his position on the war, but I think he will inspire and draw swing voters much better.

Two years ago people were afraid of a terrorist attack. Now they're afraid of losing their jobs.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:26 AM
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5. Ameircans don't expect their presidents to have much experience being
president, and we kick them out once they get too much.

I can't think of a race in a while in which the person with more experience won. LBJ might be the one, but he was totally riding on the sentimental wave.

Edwards is going to win because he plays on the homefield for Democrats. He has built-in homefield advantage, whereas Kerry is a patch for admitted weaknesses of the Democratic Party. Edwards makes you forget about weaknesses, and helps you focus on strengths.
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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:30 AM
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6. Put Edwards on a debate stage with Bush...
...and the contrast will be startling. Edwards never falters, always speaking quickly but clearly; and while Bush is mumbling, stammering and trying to think of what it was he wanted to say, Edwards will be concentrating on his rebuttal. It's going to be a train wreck for the repukes, whether it's Edwards or Kerry doing it to their loser candidate.
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SerpentX Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:32 AM
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7. If he can somehow manage a comeback against Kerry
its not a stretch to say he could win the GE. I don't think the "wussy" tag is going to play for the repukes this time around. However, Edwards' fate is more closely tied to the economy than Kerry's is.

I'm a Kerry guy, but Edwards is a better candidate than you're giving credit for.
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:42 AM
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9. A few points...
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 04:43 AM by KissMyAsscroft

1) My post was not flame bait...this isnt I/P forum...

2) Its not whether or not he really has experience, its his hair.(meaning the public only sees how young he looks)

3) Jobs are going to be an issue until Bush uses his 200 million to make the war on terror an issue.

4) Kerry is not going to change strategy to attacking Edwards because it would backfire, making Edwards a sympathetic figure which only plays to his strenghts.


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Edwards4President Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:00 AM
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10. Don't underestimate John Edwards . . .
Who (besides Edwards supporters) would have predicted that John Edwards would be one of the last ones standing today?

As he tells it, Edwards has been underestimated all his life. "and I beat 'em, and I beat 'em again, and then I beat 'em again!"
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tobius Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:27 AM
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12. Interesting that you put "resolve" in quotation marks...
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 06:47 AM by tobius
your assesment is right on the money.
forgot to put </sarcasm>, because I don't see much resolve on the issues.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:41 AM
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13. I would LOVE to wager othwerwise
I gamble for a living, have for 15+ years. My record on offshore political wagering is almost perfect. As I've mentioned here before, if it's Edwards I'm plunking down serious dimes on us, otherwise I'm backing Bush.

Handicapping like this absolutely amazes me. Edwards is the very definition of teflon. One beaming smile, one clever sound bite like tonight's "rear view mirror" classic wipes out anything Rove and Co. can sling. When you have a crush on someone, nothing your envious neighbor says negative about her is going to stick. Now ask yourself, after a convention speech and 3 debates, is antsy and out-of-work Middle America more likely to swoon over John Edwards or John Kerry?


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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:52 AM
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14. No he wouldn't.
Republicans and Independants voted for him yesterday--there is the Right, and he is the preference of both Kucinich and Dean, which brings in the Left.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 07:08 AM
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15. Bush being a cheerleader is pussy boy in my mind.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 07:26 AM
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16. I don't disagree
However, I don't think Kerry's chances are markedly better.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:20 AM
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17. That is exactly what I said when Clinton won the nomination in'02
Then came the gift of Perot. Moral of the story is we just can't say anything is for sure until November. And then as we found out in 2000, we still may not know.

Don

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jpgpenn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:21 AM
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18. yes he would!
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