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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 07:17 AM
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NYT distorts votes on Boxer and Cornyn amendments re:Move On.org ad
The Boxer amendment is defined without mentioning Kerry, cleland or the SBVT - inaccurately (from the text posted yesterday of Boxer's bill)saying that Boxer's bill does not mention Move On.org. The only time the Boxer amendment is mentioned is in discussing why Obama did not vote.

"Mr. Obama issued a statement calling the resolution, put forward by Senator John Cornyn, Republican of Texas, “a stunt.” Mr. Obama said, “By not casting a vote, I registered my protest against these empty politics.”

Mr. Obama had voted minutes earlier in favor of an extremely similar resolution proposed by Senator Barbara Boxer, Democrat of California.

Ms. Boxer’s proposal, which failed, called for the Senate to “strongly condemn all attacks on the honor, integrity and patriotism” of anyone in the United States armed forces. It did not mention the MoveOn.org ad. Mr. Dodd and Mrs. Clinton also voted in favor of Ms. Boxer’s proposal."


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/21/us/politics/21moveon....

First of all, didn't the Boxer amendment itemize the Petraeus, Kerry and Cleland attacks specifically. This distortion syncs later in the story with Bush's comment that the Democrats were afraid to vote on something attacking Moveon.org. (I think author is another name we should watch.)

"“And I was disappointed that not more leaders in the Democrat Party spoke out strongly against that kind of ad,” Mr. Bush said. “And that leads me to come to this conclusion: that most Democrats are afraid of irritating a left-wing group like MoveOn.org — or more afraid of irritating them than they are of irritating the United States military.”

This is the paper, that calls itself the paper of record, either being lazy or intentionally distorting the amendments.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 07:24 AM
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1. I actually agree with Obama. And Boxer should not have disapproved the ad
or asked us to worship all military...I understand what she tried to do, but I wish Pete Stark was in the Senate. His was the right answer:

"I commend MoveOn for their ad and for speaking truth to power," said Stark. "Up is not down, the earth is not flat, and the surge is not working. General Petreaus betrayed his own reputation by standing with George Bush in opposition to the timely withdrawal of all of our brave men and women from Iraq. I thank MoveOn for their patriotic ad and call on Petreaus to help Bush end a war the President should have never started.""

This was not about which party insults whom, but about covering for lies in the war - and democrats praised Betrayus who was the White House stooge. Then half of them surrendered to the dark side.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 07:57 AM
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3. Not the point
The point is that the NYT is framing the Democrats on this issue per the Republican frame. It is ironic that I assume that many here wish that it was as portrayed here.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 08:04 PM
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4. I agree on that one. NYT's raison d'etre is to blame Democrats for everything bad
and credit republicans for everything good (real or imaginary)
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 07:24 AM
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2. How about Gen. Benedict Arnold?
Are we allowed to disparage his honor? :eyes:

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