Who has a link for the Disaffected Democractic Underground?

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/disaffection

disaffection - Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0 :

52 Moby Thesaurus words for "disaffection":
Punic faith, alienation, bad faith, barratry, breach,
breach of faith, breach of friendship, breach of promise,
breach of trust, break, cleavage, cleft, dereliction, disaffinity,
disapprobation, disapproval, disfavor, disinclination, dislike,
disloyalty, displeasure, disrelish, disruption, distaste, disunion,
disunity, divergence, dividedness, division, estrangement,
faithlessness, falling-out, falseness, falsity, fickleness,
inconstancy, infidelity, mala fides, open rupture,
recall of ambassadors, recreancy, rift, rupture, schism,
separation, split, trothlessness, unfaith, unfaithfulness,
unloyalty, unsteadfastness, untrueness

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

1. To be clearer, I am disaffected because of the actions/inactions

of my so-called leaders - whom I have voted for and contributed to and expected great things of.

All for naught. I love the collection of synonyms above, because that about sums up how I feel.

[MGKrebs]

2. I know there are a lot of activists here, but it sure seems like there are also

a lot of people who just cast their vote and call it a day. Then they get to come here and complain about how "our leaders" haven't turned the country into a nationalized Deadhead commune yet.

Issues are issues and politics is politics. We can push for and advocate our issues, but not everybody else in the country shares our progressive views yet. We may be right, our vision may be inevitable, but politicians react to the way things are now. They have to or they don't get to vote on anything. If they don't feel they can sell single payer healthcare yet, most of them will avoid it. By most normal standards of political discourse, MoveOn was out of line. It's the same type of thing we all condemn the RW media hacks for. How many thousands of posts have there been trashing Ann Coulter for calling someone a nasty name?

Of course there are votes that we disagree with and don't even understand. But it doesn't stop anyone from continuing to support their issues and help a good alternative candidate step up if we can. At election time, we only have a few choices. It's not "perfect" vs. everything else. Jesus ain't runnin' And democracy is all about debate, and compromise, and negotiation, and even polls. As progressives, above all, we do not want the alternative.


If we want a revolution, the Democratic Party isn't the place to start.
If we continue to ignore the fact that there are people who do not believe the same things that we do, we will continue to drive them away.
If we continue to feel that primarily writing bitter, caustic messages to each other is a legitimate activist role, we will continue to marginalize ourselves.

[Capn Sunshine]

3. well there ARE other sites

Some grew out of disgust with the treatment of Dean in '04.

Not much has changed since then.

[XemaSab]

4. Here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=105

:popcorn:

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

6. Ha! (like Chris Mathews would)

I love lurking in the lounge.

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[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

7. Interesting. I will check it out. I have no trouble with the brown line.

I am seriously, seriously disappointed with my Dems right now.