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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 04:22 PM
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MoveOn's going after Giuliani !!!
just received this email:

Dear MoveOn member,

This weekend, Rudy Giuliani launched a series of attacks on us for exposing the White House spin on the "surge."

Giuliani is hoping to scare war critics into staying silent. But that isn't going to happen. We've put together a rapid-response ad which demonstrates that Giuliani doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to leadership on Iraq: He was booted from the Iraq Study Group after missing meeting after meeting so he could make millions of dollars giving speeches.

We want voters to know that Giuliani can't be trusted on Iraq. Can you help with $50 to get this ad on the air in Iowa? Click here to see the ad and contribute:

https://pol.moveon.org/donate/giuliani.html?id=11257-5865584-LQmQFC&t=3

The facts are very clear: When it really mattered, Giuliani chose to make big money from speeches rather than helping figure out a strategy for Iraq.

The Iraq Study group (ISG) was a bipartisan panel appointed by Congress in March of 2006 to evaluate the situation in Iraq and make policy recommendations on the war. Sometimes it's referred to as the Baker-Hamilton commission.

Giuliani originally said that he looked forward to participating in the group,1 but then he never showed up to any of the meetings.

Newsday reported earlier this year that, "Rudolph Giuliani's membership on an elite Iraq study panel came to an abrupt end last spring after he failed to show up for a single official meeting of the group, causing the panel's top Republican to give him a stark choice: either attend the meetings or quit, several sources said."2

Giuliani later said that he couldn't participate in the group because of "time constraints." A close look at his financial records shows that those time constraints actually consisted of a series of speeches that he made millions of dollars on.3

In April of last year. Giuliani skipped a meeting and made $200,000 giving a keynote speech at an economic conference in South Korea.4
The next month he skipped another meeting to give a $100,000 speech on "leadership" in Atlanta. Later that day, he attended a $100-a-ticket political fundraiser for conservative activist Ralph Reed.5
For Giuliani to claim any authority on handling the war in Iraq when he abdicated his responsibilities to the Iraq Study Group is a plain betrayal of the nation's trust. In fact, Stephen Hess, who served on the panel and has served in Republican and Democratic administrations, said, "Leaving that study group was not exactly an act of courage."6

While the media spotlight is on Giuliani and MoveOn, we've got an opportunity to remind voters about his real record on Iraq. Can you chip in $50 to help us get this ad on the air?

https://pol.moveon.org/donate/giuliani.html?id=11257-5865584-LQmQFC&t=4

Giuliani's ad against us is in response to the ad we ran in the New York Times last Monday. The ad really got under Republicans' skin—Senator John McCain even called for MoveOn to be "thrown out of the country."7(His campaign later conceded that we have the right to free speech.)

But Republicans are right to be nervous about the facts that ad brought to light. As cognitive scientist George Lakoff said, "The ad worked brilliantly to reveal, via its framing, an essential but previously hidden truth: the Bush Administration and its active supporters have betrayed the trust of the troops and the American people."8

With your help we can make sure we continue to highlight these important truths.

Thanks for all you do.

–Nita, Eli, Justin, Jennifer and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team
Monday, September 17th, 2007

Sources:

1. "Rudy missing in action for Iraq panel," Newsday June 18,2007
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/ny-usrudy0619,0,7996765.story?wc

2. Giuliani on panel to study Iraq policy, Newsday March 16, 2007
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usiraq164663959mar16,0,6948113.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-print

3. Ibid

4. Ibid

5. Ibid

6. Ibid

7. "McCain To MoveOn: Get Out," CBSNews, September 14, 2007
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2973&id=11257-5865584-LQmQFC&t=6

8. "Whose Betrayal?" Huffington Post, September 15, 2007
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2974&id=11257-5865584-LQmQFC&t=7

PAID FOR BY MOVEON.ORG POLITICAL ACTION, http://pol.moveon.org/
Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 04:23 PM
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1. Sounds good!
He asked for it.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 04:24 PM
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2. That is fan-fucking-tastic!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 04:29 PM
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3. Their ad's here:
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 04:36 PM
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4. I just added this thread to that one....
Thanks !
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 04:46 PM
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5. That ad is brilliant! Hey Rudy, bring it on why dontcha?
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 05:04 PM
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6. K&R Hurray! Glad to see Moveon.org has a spine. nt
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 05:05 PM
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7. Please donate to Moveon, they do great work!!
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 05:12 PM
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8.  Kicked and donated
Great idea and great ad. Giuliani really has it coming. I was so excited when I heard MoveOn.org is going to fight back against Giuliani.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 05:31 PM
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9. Excellent ad!!!
Wish I could donate, but I can't right now. But K&R!
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 05:58 PM
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10. Sounds like a great reason to donate to me!
As Stephanie Miller says, Giuliani is Bush on Steroids....now that's scary....

Guess only those that LOVE BUSH will find Giuliani so wonderful....


This ad is perfect because for those that think Rudy is a moderate, so tough on terror and whether he could be the President to get us out of Iraq, it points out that he clearly is the wrong person for the job.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 06:23 PM
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11. Fair game, rudy dear. Fair game.
If he's gonna open his mouth, he better realize someone's going to stick his (rudy's) foot down into it. Better make sure that's no glass house in which you're living, rudy.
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 06:25 PM
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12. Woooohooooo!!
Smackdown, baby.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 06:26 PM
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13. Kudos to MoveOn for taking on the faux hero! nt
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 06:31 PM
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14. Rudy likes to give the impression he can stop another 9/11 attack
The question begs...HOW? He fucked the first one...it happened on his watch...he didn't stop it did he? So how in the Hell are we supposed to be safer if he cannot stop another one?

The answer is Rudy is full of it....
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 06:34 PM
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15. Chris Matthews just showed the ad on Hardball !!!!
:toast:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 06:50 PM
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17. Wow! Tweets in a Good Roll!
Bet rudy is fuming out the ears!
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:36 PM
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21. MSNBC's been running it all day :)
Eli from MoveOn's been defending it :loveya:
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 06:44 PM
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16. Sweet!
I donated. K&R
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 06:53 PM
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18. Great.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 07:08 PM
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19. I got the same email
and I cheered 'cause I am soooo tired of trying to be nice to the reich wing.... Fuck 'em. The general is bought and paid for by Bushco....

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 01:30 AM
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20. (R)assmussen has Ghoulman dropping like a rock
(weird rethug polling site, but interesting for trends)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008__1/daily_presidential_tracking_polling_history

Maybe MoveOn ad can send him to "no longer mentioned" land (I hope).
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:46 PM
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22. Good
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Prince Paul Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 04:11 PM
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23. Mitt Romney
I wish one of the republicans like flip flop Mitt would go after Giuliani on his horrible 9/11 record through television ads.
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