Some details of Hillary Clinton's 9/17 Monday health care announcement have leaked

[papau]

BACKGROUND: Clinton told the SEIU health care forum in March that her plan would be fully operational by the "end of her second term in office" - is this still the "fully functional" start up date. If the Wall Street Journal is correct that there are no controls on coverage or premium, we have a plan that simply requires insurers to provide coverage for sick and well people. Until we see the details tomorrow. Edwards will continue to have the only "universal" health care propsal. Meanwhile we have today's hint that Hillary's plan will be a law that mandates for individuals that they must own an insurance policy.

This is the last of the 3 part Clinton Health Care Plan. Clinton's first 2 parts of the 3 part plan included a seven-part plan for controlling health care costs she estimates would save $120 billion annually, including $77 billion in annual savings from moving to electronic record keeping. plus the passage of her National Medical Error Disclosure and Compensation Act so as to cut malpractice costs by requiring physicians to disclose to patients their past mistakes, plus programs that would move to emphasizing prevention, managing chronic diseases such as diabetes, prohibiting insurance companies from excluding people from coverage, creation of a "best practices" institute and purchasing reforms such as allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/16/us/politics/16clinton.html?ref=health

Clinton to Propose Universal Health Care
By ROBERT PEAR

WASHINGTON, .... Mrs. Clinton would propose expanding the Children’s Health Insurance Program as a step toward universal coverage. She has denounced President Bush’s efforts to restrict eligibility and limit spending on the program.... Mrs. Clinton would amplify a comment in March when she declared, “We could require that every insurance company had to insure everybody, with no exclusion for pre-existing conditions.” .... “As president, I will end the practice of insurance company cherry-picking once and for all by allowing anyone who wants to join a plan to do so, and by prohibiting insurance companies from carving out benefits or charging higher rates to people with health problems....

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-ushill0916,0,7593450,print.story?coll=ny_home_rail_headlines

Newsday.com
A second shot at health care for Hillary

BY GLENN THRUSH

Hillary Rodham Clinton will plunge back into the health care debate tomorrow with a sweeping plan that would require all Americans to sign up for health insurance -- her plan would also make it easier for companies with fewer than 10 employees to offer affordable insurance.....The price tag for the Clinton plan will be closer to Obama's $50 billion to $65 billion estimate than Edwards' $90 billion to $125 billion plan -It's not clear if Clinton will finance her proposal by repealing the Bush administration's tax cuts for the wealthy, as Edwards and Obama have proposed - The long-anticipated initiative has much in common with the Obama and Edwards proposals. All three plans allow individuals to choose among a wide array of private insurance plans, all would create massive "purchasing pools" of patients to drive down costs to individuals and all would prevent insurers from denying coverage to people with pre-existing illnesses. Edwards, Obama and Clinton would also pump hundreds of millions into additional funding for wellness programs, fighting chronic illnesses, improving mental health services, combating obesity and expanding free health care to more poor and working-class children.

[rawtribe]

1. Dennis Kucinich

is the only candidate for President with a plan for a Universal, Single-Payer, Not-for-Profit health care system.

http://www.dennis4president.com/go/issues/a-healthy-nation/

[papau]

2. Very True - and my prefered - Edwards and Clinton Plans are similar - more details below

Clinton and Edwards go the "individual mandate" route


http://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/politics/story/144207.html

Clinton to offer health care plan
By BETH FOUHY
Associated Press Writer

DES MOINES, Iowa --<snip>With a price tag of about $110 billion per year, Clinton's "American Health Choices Plan" represents her first major effort to achieve universal health coverage since 1994, when the plan she authored during her husband's first term collapsed.

<snip>Clinton's plan builds on the existing employer-based system of coverage. People who receive insurance through the workplace could continue to do so; businesses, in turn, would be required to offer insurance to employees, or contribute to a government-run pool that would help pay for those not covered. Clinton would also offer a tax subsidy to small businesses to help them afford the cost of providing coverage to their workers.

For individuals and families who are not covered by employers or whose employer-based coverage is inadequate, Clinton would offer expanded versions of two existing government programs: Medicare, and the health insurance plan currently offered to federal employees. Consumers could choose between either government-run program, but aides stress that no new federal bureaucracy would be created under the Clinton plan.

Aides said Clinton will propose several specific measures to pay for her plan, including an end to some of the Bush-era tax cuts for people making more than $250,000 per year. Edwards has vowed to completely repeal the tax cuts for high earners to pay for the cost of his plan, estimated at $90 billion-$120 billion per year, while Obama would pay for his plan in part by letting the tax cuts expire in 2010.<snip>

[Lydia Leftcoast]

3. "By the end of her second term in office"?

Not too over-confident, is she?

And how many people will die from preventable or curable illnesses during those eight years?

She's going to need eight years to provide welfare for the insurance companies?

[killbotfactory]

5. Approximately 18,000 per year, or 144,000 people in eight years.

Will die due to lack of health insurance.

It would be nice if there was some sense of urgency among our politicians.

[Greyhound]

6. Nailed it again. This kind of cynical, insincere, crap is to be expected

from the Republiks, but to hear that the Democratic front runner can't bring herself to endorse an effective, workable, existing plan is just plain disgusting.

Maybe, the Russians and Chinese will nuke us soon and make all this shit irrelevant.:banghead:

[Desertrose]

4. BFD...in 8 years I'll be on medicare.....

unless something catastrophic happens before that.


Dennis Kucinich HR626.


The more I hear about Clinton/Obama...the less I want to vote for them.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

8. Yes, I'll be almost there myself

:-(

[marlakay]

7. This is a bunch of crap

It needs to be taken away from the employers who are already over burdened with it to the point they can't afford to be in business. No wonder so much is over seas now. If health care was out of the picture they could afford to pay employees more and keep our products here.

It needs to be like Canada and totally not for profit.

[Snarkturian Clone]

9. So more money for the insurance corps?

How about a Get Out of the War Plan?