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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:08 PM
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That's Gross, Man! Judas Staffer & Media Dean Dean in WI
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/epolls/WI/index.html

When Did You Make Up Your Mind?

Within Last 3 Days (58%)

Dean -- 17%
Edwards -- 46%
Kerry -- 30%

Before That (42%)

Dean -- 19%
Edwards -- 21%
Kerry -- 51%


OK, 55% of the voters made up their minds within the last three days. And of these voters -- a full 70% voted against John Kerry.

Just coincidentally, over these last three days the media wrote and rewrote Dean campaign obituaries -- fully aided and abetted by a Judas DFA staffer -- for 72 straight hours. And just coincidentally, the late deciding, "whom-oh-whom-should-I-vote-for?" anti-Kerry vote broke out almost 3 to 1 in Edwards' favor.

OK, so they wrote the story in advance, but we still all had to do our own parts to make it come true!
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:14 PM
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1. Different numbers
When did you finally decide for whom to vote in the presidential primary?

Last 3 days

Dean 16
Edwards 56
Kerry 21

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3762911

Kerry suffered most, not Dean.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:20 PM
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2. Yes. I believe Drudge managed to do the damage he intended.
Even though the story was a big fat lie, the what if, could be, he's a Democrat with money and Kennedy idolatry, he probably fooled around......

That's powerful poison. Worked, too.

I may have to stop thinking of Rove as a complete jackass.

We'd just better be ready to remind people that if Rove implies Kerry is Jack the Ripper or Osama in a mullet, he's still a better choice than Bush. That goes for Edwards, Dean, anyone who might possibly appear on our ballot. We have to be ready for a mudslide.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:25 PM
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4. Wisconsin media should be surveyed for mentions of the story
TV radio and press. I am not equipped to do that but maybe someone else can. I have no doubt some seeds of doubt were sown.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:20 AM
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6. Kerry suffered from buyers' remorse & a rumor. Dean was not able to
capitalize because of a full frontal media assault aided and abetted by a trojan horse Kerry-ite.
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:22 PM
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3. I thought voters who made up their minds at the last minute
Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 11:36 PM by eileen_d
were the "sheeple" who were were following DLC orders and media buzz to vote for Kerry?

There's a "Dean is a martyr" theory for every possible outcome, I guess...
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:25 AM
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7. Who ever said that? Kerry got some bad murmurs.
Dean got the "Haven't you given up yet?" treatment even though he'd beaten Edwards in 5 of the last 7 contests. Over the last three days, every media report on Dean has been 100% negative full bore day after day after day.

I challenge you to show me one example of a positive article for Dean or a negative article for Edwards over the last three days.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:26 PM
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5. and 83% against Dean
I guess it's all in the spin.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:28 AM
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8. That's the anti-Kerry vote
It broke to whomever was considered "electable."
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:20 AM
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10. Dean was widely and inaccurately reported as quitting the race. (nt)
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:32 AM
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9. Grossman (a former AIPAC dude) makes me think of dean a little better
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