Edwards says no SUVs. Except the one he's driven around in.

[Scriptor Ignotus]

I know this post looks like a "gotcha", but this is a self-inflicted wound. Edwards is a good candidate with a strong message. Why set yourself up for the inevitable hypocrite attacks? I don't get it.

http://jalopnik.com/cars/fuel-economy/john-edwards-needs-to-get-rid-of-his-cadillac-srx-pot+black-paint-295646.php

Hillary has run a virtually flawless campaign, but she doesn't inspire me. I love Obama, but he's had a few warbles. Edwards is good, but has been painting bulls-eyes all over himself lately. C'mon guys, get it together!

[MannyGoldstein]

1. Rules Are For Other People

Says to treat the little guy fairly - but he has millions invested in a hedge fund that specializes in predatory lending. And he voted for NAFTA. And permanent "free" trade status for China.

Etc.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

2. It was a metaphor

for our consumer driven existence.

I got it.

:shrug:

[Skittles]

73. I did too

looks like there is a lot of DUers feeling guilty

[MADem]

3. If he is getting SS protection (to be fair) that's what those pigs use. If he isn't, though, he's

fucked up with a comment like that.

[Scriptor Ignotus]

5. that's probably why he's in a SUV to begin with

but still, the damage is done. People aren't going to take the time to investigate his driving situation. They'll see the headline, the pic of him in a SUV, and he's toast. You gotta get a bulletproof hybrid or something. Otherwise you're just setting yourself up for the smears.


edited for spleling

[MADem]

34. But IF he is getting protection, it isn't up to him, you see. The Service

picks the vehicles, which are armored (you think the SUV gets bad mileage--when they're armored, it's much, much worse). He couldn't choose a hybrid, because he's not makingthe choice.

If he isn't getting protection (I know Obama is, due to threats) then it's a different story.

[ourbluenation]

61. why are secret service pigs? n/t

[lynne]

69. Why do you call the USSS Pigs???

Just wondering. :shrug:

[MADem]

85. The ref is to their modes of transportation--the pigmobile SUVs.

They never used to use them before BushCo. It was always inocuous sedans--armor plated, but better on gas than what they use now.

[jsamuel]

4. Do you think that maybe that is because he didn't say no SUVs?

He said he would ask Americans to make a sacrifice for fuel efficiency, which includes gas guzzling SUVs. He didn't say SUV owners are the devil or that they are wrong, just that Americans need to be willing to sacrifice for the environment.

They attacked Al Gore for having a big house too, just like they are doing to Edwards when he advocates for the environment.

[Scriptor Ignotus]

7. same diff

he wants to raise CAFE to 40 mpg, while he rides around in a 20 (that's highway) mpg vehicle. It won't work and the public isn't going to give him a fair shake.

I know the right will attack our candidates regardless of what they do, but this one is a freebie. I'm sure Obama and Clinton share his views on fuel economy and both probably ride in SUVs, but this issue is going to stick to Edwards.

Hell, all the Dems candidates should switch to hybrid bulletproof SUVs asap. It's the only move that makes sense.

[jsamuel]

13. Edwards does own a hybrid SUV

Your post admits that he is advocating for the environment and is getting attacked for exactly that reason. It also admits that Obama and Clinton do the same (probably own low efficiency cars) and are also for raising CAFE standards, yet for some reason Edwards is stupid?

No, this as I pointed out, has nothing to do with Edwards, it has to do with advocating for the environment, like Gore and his house.

[Cameron27]

33. He owns a non hybrid SUV too.

Gore never told anyone not to buy a big house, while Edwards is preaching that people should not to own an SUV when he personally has at least 2. I think it was a stupid move. He should have at least sold the non-hybrid before he made the statement.

I imagine if Gore runs, he'll get some flak for any non-green actions on his part, and both of them will probably get hit on the size of their houses and the cost of their energy bills. Carbon credits will be attacked too, but remember, Gore has years of experience, has educated the entire country with his award winning movie and has a group of scientists watching his back, while Edwards has little experience and a dismal senate record on environmental policy. He won't fare as well as Gore IMO.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

6. What do you know.

It's a "some people say" report that the article is based upon.

Geez, I would want to hang my hat on THAT hook. Not.

Sheesh. The same week that Time Magazine, of all folks, excoriates the press and, well...EVERYONE, on their boneheaded coverage and criticisms of Edwards. And rightly so.

To think we can even find it here on DU. Something to ponder.

[2rth2pwr]

8. From CNN and other posts here at DU

"I think Americans are actually willing to sacrifice," Edwards said during a forum held by the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers. "One of the things they should be asked to do is drive more fuel efficient vehicles."

The former North Carolina senator was asked specifically if he would tell them to give up their SUVS. He said, "Yes."
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/29/edwards.kucinich.ap/index.html

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

10. There are 187,000 links on Google...

About Edward's haircut alone. Many are CNN. http://mediamatters.org/columns/200705010001

I don't see them as a paragon of objectivity and probity when it comes to Dem candidates in general and Edwards in particular.

[maximusveritas]

12. You don't understand

Any news organization that prints anything the slightest bit damaging to the Edwards campaign is not to be trusted. These organizations are a part of a corporate conspiracy against Edwards because they see him as a threat to their evil empire. So if you read anything bad written about him, just ignore it.
:sarcasm:

[AnotherGreenWorld]

14. Shouldn't your name be maxima veritas? Veritas is a feminine noun.

[TheDoorbellRang]

19. Sister Alicia? Is that you?

:scared:


The only thing I remember from high school Latin is:
Semper ubi sub ubi. :D

[AnotherGreenWorld]

21. Haha. You also undoubtedly learned that a good Latin student never declines sex.

[struggle4progress]

18. "We are the worst polluter on the planet. We are 4% of the world's population, we're putting out 25%

of the world's greenhouse gas," Edwards said. "America's going to have to change." http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7008358429

So, unsurprisingly, the auto industry attacks him

[Scriptor Ignotus]

9. if you want links you got them

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20487065/

these are from or directed from right wing sites, so take them with a grain of salt.


pics (you can zoom on it)
http://sportsforum.ws/attachment.php?attachmentid=12054&d=1188420558

http://www.flickr.com/photos/forallofus/367339841/


and then an earlier post on the same topic:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2970714&mesg_id=2971310

[jenmarie]

11. Poor Edwards

Seriously, the only time he gets press is when they spread his lack of judgement moves. Unfortunately, they seem to happen with some regularity. I don't really trust or like je, but I am beginning to believe "they" fear him more than HRC or BHO. If Elizabeth were the candidate, she'd have my support. She seems more like a leader to me than he does.

[AnotherGreenWorld]

15. John Edwards needs to drop out. His absurd campaign is making other Democrats look bad,

just as Republican Senators with diaper fetishes make Republicans look bad.

[Jim Sagle]

22. Hogwash!

[saracat]

25. Oh Goody ! Another Edwards basher. Always happens when he goes up in the polls

Wonder why that is?

[Inspired]

26. Your comparison is beneath you and makes no sense. n/t

[AnotherGreenWorld]

39. No.

The average American does not follow politics closely. Just look at the comments posted @ the OP's link. People say things such as, "typical liberal hypocrisy," and so on. What's more, the average American, when he/she hears Jay Leno tell joke after joke about Edwards's hypocrisy, he/she might not remember the name, but he/she does remember that he's a Democrat.

Just to give an example. On Washington Journal a few weeks ago, a caller said "the Democrats don't believe 9/11 ever happened, they just think it's a bumper sticker someone made up!" He obviously had heard Edwards's comment that the war on terrorism is a bumper sticker. He didn't understand what Edwards meant, and he probably couldn't remember who said it. But he knew it was a Democrat. This is very typical of American intelligence.

Again and again Republicans use this to their advantage, while Democrats prefer to live in a fantasy world where people make rational, informed decisions.

Edwards needs to go. He makes Democrats look bad.

[Inspired]

43. He makes THIS Democrat remember why she's a Democrat. n/t

[AnotherGreenWorld]

44. Well, even if you like that his record doesn't support his rhetoric,

that he doesn't practice what he preaches, and so on, that doesn't change the fact that he's making Democrats in general look bad.

[madmunchie]

62. Edward's supporters don't care about his missteps and misspeaks

and misjudgment on critical votes when he was a Senator for 6 short years (3 of those (at least) he spent a great deal of time campaigning for the WH and not focusing so much on his electors business, hopes and/or dreams). Then after his disastrous votes in the Senate, did he try to stay in to try to help clean up a mess that he was very much part of????? No, he parked his but in Iowa and has been campaigning there for the WH ever since (since he is wealthy enough not to have to hold a job and obviously he is not too worried about his conscience and the rights that were taken from us and the lives lost in Iraq, no, just campaign to be top dog. and don't be in a position to be held accountable for any more votes either, play it safe....

Why let the proof of his actions get in the way of a great sales pitch????? I am personally looking at the candidates ACTIONS, since Bushco and many more have shown not to believe just somebody's words since so many seem to lie as easily as they breathe.

[AnotherGreenWorld]

68. Well said.

[calteacherguy]

16. Ghandi said it best: "You must be the change you want to see in the world."

Clearly, Edwards is not the change he claims to want to see in the world...and this in not the first example of such hypocrisy.

Also, is this pic for real? (from the link)

[AnotherGreenWorld]

17. Sadly, it's a real pic. Haven't you seen the video?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2AE847UXu3Q

[Inspired]

32. Posting this with an Obama avatar,

and I assume you are a Democrat, is what is really sad here. It is the real hypocrisy I see in this thread.

[zalinda]

75. Yes, the video was from the campaign in 2004

How do I know? His mole is still there in the video on his lip.

And to be perfectly honest, most guys do that before they leave to go to work, especially if they work in an office. I couldn't imagine what someone would do before a TV appearance..........a professional hair person person at the studio, perhaps?

zalinda

[Inspired]

27. Why in the world would you repeat this?

And how does this show hypocrisy? A silly little video that was made by Republicans to smear a Democrat. Good Lord...did you save this on your hard drive or something? This is old, tired and played.

A real hypocrite is someone who says that they stand for the working class and the poor but presents proposals and policies that benefit the rich. Please tell me where John Edwards does this.

[AnotherGreenWorld]

40. Well, someone who acts in the way you describe would definitely be a hypocrite.

And I think that does fit him as well. See NAFTA, his investment in hedge funds--in particular investing in a hedge fund that foreclosed on the homes of victims of Katrina. He did nothing for the poor in the Senate. He's only changed his rhetoric now because he knows that there is a large group of Democratic primary voters who like to pretend they care about the poor. They don't care if someone actually does anything to help the poor. They just want to feel good about themselves. "Golly, we've done a lot to help the poor! We voted for Edwards!"

But ignoring that--and much more--at the very least Edwards is a hypocrite when he tells Americans to give up their SUVs, while he himself owns one. And at the very least, it's extremely stupid politically. He should've been foresighted enough to at least sell his SUVs before making the comment, or, of course, being so concerned about helping others, he could've donated them to someone who didn't have even one vehicle, let alone the fleet the Edwards's own.

And it shouldn't even need to be said that living in a 28,000 sq. ft. mansion (or whatever it is) while pretending to care so much about poverty is hypocritical. He could save thousands of lives if didn't live so extravagantly.

And I could go on and on. But again and again these stories come up, and his supporters don't care at all. And the reason they don't care is because John Edwards really is the candidate that best represents them. He pretends to care about poverty, but actually does not. They also pretend to care about poverty, but really do not. It's quite the match.

[Inspired]

45. You are obviously on a witch hunt.

I won't even begin to argue your points. They are simply absurd.

I am an Edwards supporter and I do care about poverty. Don't you dare profess to know what I care about. Go ahead and try to sell Obama by slamming Edwards if that is the tactic you choose to use. Don't, I repeat don't, make this personal about me or any other Edwards supporter. You don't know me at all. You don't know what my life is like and you don't have a clue what I care about. You are out of line with that statement.

By the way....Obama is my second choice. I wish him well. Have a nice day.

[Trajan]

46. YAY ! ....

This is what I prefer seeing in DU ....

Those who would use trivial and unfair characterizations of our candidates to slur and smear them instead of promoting the positive differences between them ....

You can be sure the other candidates drive such gas monsters; and as another poster pointed out: WE WANT them to make sure they are protected from those who would harm them .... I find nothing 'hypocritical' of Edwards condemning rampant overuse in the population, while using such a vehicle in the course of his candidacy ....

I love Edwards .... I love Obama ..... The HATERS can stuff it up their collective arses .....

The RW needn't do anything but sit back and let the Dem supporters implode ....

QED .....

[AnotherGreenWorld]

49. Please tell me what other candidates have called on Americans to stop using SUVs.

[Trajan]

55. Not the point ....

I am not on a mission to tear down our decent candidates, perfect or imperfect as they are ....

Many of us get tired of the divisive types hammering our candidates for such trivial distinctions; not as a matter of pure principle, but as a matter of political expedience for their own camp .....

I expect our candidates will use whatever vehicles which will provide the most reasonable fuel efficiency AND the most secure environment which a national candidate would require in a world of fucknuts and crazies ..... That was the gist of this thread, which perhaps you had forgotten in your kitchen sink diatribe against one of our fine candidates ....

Edwards is not perfect, and neither is Obama .... But we should brook NO fallacious attacks against either ....

Have you beat your wife lately ?

[AnotherGreenWorld]

56. The problem is that no one else has called for Americans to stop driving SUVs.

For Edwards, it's always: do as I say, not as I do.

I'm sure average Americans think they have perfectly legitimate reasons for driving SUVs, and when they hear that a Democrat wants them to sacrifice their own while he keeps his, they will understandably be pissed.

I don't have a TV, but I'll bet he--and by extension Democrats--are ridiculed quite extensively for this latest revelation about the extent to which Edwards is a hypocrite.

[Trajan]

57. Well .....

I NEVER vote for anyone without first consulting a TV set ....

How bout you ?

And why bother going to TV to find condemnation of Democratic candidates when one could just come here ? .....

I am quite sure things are not exactly as you claim ....... and that you are stretching the facts to fit your agenda : AND using a RW nutcase's blog to do it ....

First place I go to get the facts about Democratic candidates is the rabid writings of RW numbskulls .....

How bout you ?

:sarcasm:

[AnotherGreenWorld]

58. You are not the average American.

The average American doesn't follow politics closely or at all. When they hear Jay Leno ridicule John Edwards again and again for things of this sort, that is how they form an opinion of JE and Democrats.

[Forkboy]

28. Not manly enough for ya?

[goodgd_yall]

71. Real men are supposed to look like shit

doncha know?

[cali]

41. Wonderful quote

and much as I like Edwards, his inability to be that change, is troubling to me.

[goodgd_yall]

70. Oh puh-leaze

What do you think any of the other candidates look like when they're primping? Every single candidate can have a still picture captured to be used by his or her opposition (or enemies) to ridicule, even your favorite candidate whoever he or she is (at this moment).

[struggle4progress]

20. Achieving Energy Independence & Stopping Global Warming Through A New Energy Economy

... Transform the Auto Industry to Lead the World in Cars of the Future: Edwards believes that everyone should be able to drive the car, truck or SUV of their choice and still enjoy high fuel economy. American automakers have the ingenuity to lead the world in building the clean, safe, economical cars of the future ...

http://johnedwards.com/issues/energy/new-energy-economy/


League of Conservation Voters Applauds John Edwards Global Warming Plan

Edwards Announces Bold Plan to Reduce Global Warming and Develop New Energy Economy

League of Conservation Voters (LCV) President Gene Karpinski issued the following statement regarding presidential candidate John Edwards' plan to combat global warming:

The League of Conservation Voters applauds Sen. John Edwards for taking the lead in announcing aggressive plans to combat global warming. Senator Edwards' key policy is to enact a cap that will achieve 80 percent reductions in emissions by mid-century, mirroring the Sanders-Boxer (S.309) bill in Congress.

Senator Edwards also calls for an aggressive energy efficiency plan that will meet all of America's growing energy needs, while requiring that a quarter of our nation's electricity is produced from renewables by 2025.

Senator Edwards' plan demonstrates that he understands the magnitude of the challenge before us and the need for bold leadership to meet it ...

http://www.lcv.org/newsroom/press-releases/page.jsp?itemID=32451178

[Major Hogwash]

23. It's a cheap shot because if I were running for office I would want a bullet proof SUV myself.

There are a lot of nut jobs out there that would just love the opportunity to see Edwards being driven around in a small, slow, unprotected vehicle and know where he will be in 3 days.

His SUV doesn't bother me that much.
They drive more trucks in Idaho than they drive cars.
A lot of urban cowboys live out here and a lot of people buy 4x4's, yet they never leave the city.

[Name removed]

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[rucky]

24. At least he's carpooling. n/t

[Forkboy]

29. What,did Edwards piss in the Obama punchbowl?

[SOS]

30. Leading Democrats must abandon all conservation ideas!

Here's Hillary in her gas guzzler:

More Secret Service agents appeared, escorting her through the crowd to a black SUV.



And Obama!

"Racing back to the FleetCenter in an SUV, Obama tried to field questions from the half-dozen reporters traveling along."

Any energy conservation ideas put forth by Obama or Clinton must be immediately dismissed as hypocrisy.
Like FDR, I want my Democratic leaders to live in a shack and campaign on a moped.

[MADem]

35. Like I said upthread--the SS USES armored SUVs. They get about seven miles to the gallon.

The candidate receiving protection doesn't get to "pick" what car they want to ride in. The SS makes those decisions.

I know Clinton gets protection, and Obama does as well. I don't KNOW if Edwards gets it. If he does, these sniping comments are totally unfair.

If all the candidates are getting protection, this thread is flat out DUMB, and reflects poorly on the people getting snarky without getting their facts in order....

[SOS]

36. Agree

If all are assigned vehicles by the Secret Service, then this thread is really stupid.
I just get tired of Edwards getting slimed (haircut! house! SUV!) while the other millionaires in the race seem to be exempt.

[GreenArrow]

51. the others are exempt

because they aren't the ones drawing rhetorical distinctions. Edwards keeps coming out on the wrong side of his own comparisons. If Hillary were the one yammering about "poverty" and then built some nouveau riche mCmansion, she'd hear about it. Then to make matters worse, Bill would come out and complain about how "slummy" the neighbors property looked. She'd hear about that too. If Obama were the one saying Americans should give up SUVS and then was driving around in a fleet of hummers, he'd be hammered and rightfully. John Edwards is so busy wooing a potential voting bloc -- namely, left liberal internet users -- that he can't keep up with himself, and so, every so often the truth that he is a rather conventional, moderate, unimaginative and thoroughly pro status quo fellow comes slithering through the cracks of his carefully manufactured media and PR image.

[Cameron27]

47. I agree, but that doesn't let him off the hook for his personal

vehicles, and at least one of those is a non-hybrid SUV. He should've dumped it before he made the comment IMO.

[MADem]

50. Well, I really don't 'know' that, and I don't know what he uses it for if he does have one.

I know people who have a big old gasguzzler truck that goes to the dump once a week, and is used for hauling furniture and so forth, but not much else.

If it's paid for and he uses it to haul manure for the garden or what-have-you, well, that's different from driving fifty miles a day in the thing....

[GreenArrow]

53. "He should've dumped it before he made the comment"

That's just it. In his wild pandering pursuit of adoring throngs of potential voters, all united in starry eyed thrall to John Edwards, he apparently doesn't think about these things. And then they bite him.

[Catchawave]

31. What a sh*tty link.....never heard of that blog?

Looks like it exists merely to carry water for the right wing, especially using the "pretty" photo in the article.

Also, the "facts" are all wrong. Thanks a lot :mad:

[ChiciB1]

37. You Go Catchawave!! Cafferty Asked The Question Yesterday And

most of the answers agreed with Edwards on this! So, even IF he has a bus he drives around in, would it be better to "FLY" from town to town?? How the hell is he supposed to travel all over, by motorcycle or something?

I AM SO SICK of this crap and hope some of you who CONSTANTLY BASH Edwards will have to eat it someday!! Sorry if I'm overly upset, but ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!! Call it what you like... Hypocrisy I'm sure you would say, but he is TRYING to address the issue and I myself would love to drive a hybrid myself! Problem is, I can't afford to buy anything new, and maybe Edwards can to some extent, but maybe he also might want to keep some of his money to run his campaign.

And I WILL admit, I don't know IF there are any hybrid buses... the issue is what Al Gore spouts and I'm sure he didn't ALWAYS drive around on a bike either!

[Trajan]

42. So the OP is using a puny RW blog to discredit a Democratic Party candidate?

Does EVERY utterance from sniveling, snarling RW buffoons deserve a hearing here ?

I think not ..... You give the neurotic numbskulls too much credit ....

[LWolf]

48. So pick one of the other 5 you've been offered.

I'm sure you can find a worthy candidate among them.

[GreenArrow]

67. Diogenes never did find that honest man, did he?

He would have had an easier time of it searching through all of Greece, than finding a worthwhile candidate in USA 2008.

[LWolf]

77. I think one of the 8 is worthwhile.

I don't ever expect to find one human being who is the ideal of everything everybody wants.

Especially among politicians.

I look for someone who is at least in the ballpark, and there is one who stands out from the rest of the pack on issues and record. That's where I'll put my vote, fwiw.

If I couldn't find even one, I'd skip the primary and look for a general election candidate elsewhere.

[GreenArrow]

79. I know we agree on that one

but he won't be elected. There are others in other parties.

[LWolf]

80. That's the real issue.

They won't be elected, either. At least not to the presidency in '08.

I am curious to see this candidate's response at the convention this year. He's well known as a steadfast, loyal democrat. I wonder if he will accept another cycle of marginalization, or if he will look outside party boundaries. He has certainly shown willingness to hold his party accountable. If they refuse that call, will he stay on?

If there is no Democrat left to hold the left, would other parties have a better chance?

This might be a good discussion to be held elsewhere.

[GreenArrow]

83. time will tell, but I suspect he'll stay "loyal"

I find it interesting that Edwards, a most cleverly packaged candidate and a thorough proponent of the status quo, (however cleverly he attempts to disguise it) and one who has of late co-opted the "Lite" versions of many of the positions that Kucinich champions, is beginning to be lambasted in the press as a Socialist, looney left etc. This has the effect of not only further marginalizing Kucinich, but creates a blanket marginalization of nearly anything that can be categorized as left/liberal/progressive.

I think in Edwards' case, his newfound negative treatment stems from two things, 1) he serves as a convienient vehicle for the marginalization of progressive ideals in general, as mentioned above, and 2) as a punishment for biting the hand that has fed him most generously over the last few years. (I suspect he is banking on the power of the internet "netroots" to see him through, and is planning on playing nice with the mainstream media once he is elected. I further suspect he has overestimated the power of the internet, and will not be elected.) Yet notice that Edwards still gets plenty of positive media time, while Kucinich is not often allowed in a place where he is able to bite the hand that has almost never fed him.

So at the end of the day, niether of these candidates will win the nomination, one because of strategic miscalculations, and the other because of the nature of his positions. Kucinich will persist longer, and again, supporters of candidates will fall in line behind whomever the winning candidate proves to be. It still boggles my mind that in 2004 as Dean, as Edwards dropped out of the race, that Kucinich was not able to pick up much of their support, which instead went increasingly to Kerry. In spite of that, 90 some percent of the Delegates at the 2004 DNC wanted anti-war language in the party platform and were unable to achieve anything more than a statement that "reasonable people agree to disagree" or some such similar rubbish. The scenario will likely to be the same next time around, and after 8 years of Bush the forces that created the "Anybody but Bush" mantra in 2004 will be even stronger in the form of ABR -- Anybody but the Republican. I fully expect Kucinich, as a party loyalist, to take that position, and there is no question that Edwards will. A genuinely progressive voter who is tired of the bullshit will have little choice but to abstain, vote third party, or hold her nose, swallow her bile and vote for one of the major party candidates.

[LWolf]

84. I am a genuinely progressive voter,

and I will do one of the first two choices you offer.

Beyond that, I will be rethinking my relationship with the Democratic Party.

It's hard not to support DK. I DO support him and his work.

This may be the last Democratic primary for me, though. If my vote serves to keep the progressive left pacified, and loyal to a party that has no intention of serving progressive/left citizens, I'm gone. I'm not going to enable that process again.

[GreenArrow]

86. that's where I am likewise.

.

[democratsin08]

52. the super rich

i love it when the super rich like edwards who consumes the very best of life tell the rest of us how to live.

[AnotherGreenWorld]

63. You do realize that the woman in your avatar is married to John Edwards, right?

[Superman Returns]

66. lol

[democratsin08]

87. i am aware of that

i also think edwards is a load of crap.

[plusfiftyfive]

54. Why are people in love with this former Senator

As a world leader?

O OK, we had an ignorant Texas Governor who got to be President because his last name was Bush.
But what has Edwards done in the last 3 years other than run for President? Did he actually earn a dollar from labor? Did he work on rebuilding houses in New Orleans or did he just do photo ops and speeches there? Did he broker a peace treaty that I missed hearing about? Did he donate a billion dollars to medical research?

I don't know why this man, who has values like me, deserves to be President of the USA simply because he was on Kerry's ticket in 2004. That alone is not enough for me to place him above anyone else.

If Edwards will go to work as a garbage collector for a week, and get a haircut from a union barber for $15, I might consider him someone worth listening to. But a former tort-lawyer who won millions in settlements, got elected to office in a Southern state for his good looks and concerns over poverty, served as Senator, but couldn't get elected with Kerry from his home state..this guy is going to inspire WHO????

OK, he's rich and has good values.......so does Bill Gates. OH, he's cute, too, and Bill Gates isn't.
I don't know what the fascination is with Edwards, he's not very impressive to me, just one of few hundred rich liberal politicians. I hope he drops out and supports a real leader, like Obama, who WORKED to get where he is, and didn't ride in on the coat-tails of being selected as VP candidate in 2004.

[Lucinda]

59. The internet is your friend

Do some research.

[plusfiftyfive]

64. I have been reading from the internet for 5 years

Where does it say Edwards worked a day in his life since he ran for VP?

[Lucinda]

72. here ya go

http://www.law.unc.edu/pdfs/poverty/povertycenterletter.pdf

There was also a book edited, research trips, numerous public speaking engagements and that little thing of helping his family through Elizabeths cancer treatment. All of which fall under the category of "work."

Lots of info out there....I just included the one link. :)


Ahh...editing to say it appears he worked on two books, not one....

[AnotherGreenWorld]

74. Books = campaigning

public speaking engagements = campaigning
research trips = campaigning

[Inspired]

78. Uh oh!!!!

I think Edwards must be rising in the polls!

[barack4prez]

60. Edwards

is a national joke. He has been for a long time. Practically everyone sees him for the phony he truly is. He needs to go away.

[plusfiftyfive]

65. His $1200 haircut sure makes him "Presidential"

Doesn't it?

[w4rma]

76. Edwards had the $300 haircut for a commercial production. Hillary had the $1200 haircuts (nt)

[Cameron27]

81. Edwards had more than one haircut,

and I've never seen anything that suggests all of them were for commericial productions. He actually did pay $1,250 for a cut.

I could give a crap about the haircuts, but if you bring the subject up to defend him, at least post all the facts.

"Beverly Hills stylist Joseph Torrenueva tells the Washington Post that one of his haircuts for Democratic presidential hopeful John Edwards cost $1,250 because Torrenueva had to fly to Atlanta and missed two days of work as a result."

snip: "Torrenueva, a Democrat, said he began cutting Edwards' hair for free but wound up charging him $300 to $500 per haircut, plus the cost of airfare and hotel stays. That's because Torrenueva was often forced to meet Edwards on the campaign trail to shear his locks."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/05/politics/main3019277.shtml

[AnotherGreenWorld]

82. Wow. I hadn't heard that he flew his barber in just for a haircut.