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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:26 PM
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NYT: Clinton Campaign Will Give Hsu Money to Charity
August 29, 2007, 6:50 pm
Clinton Campaign Will Give Hsu Money to Charity

By Patrick Healy

Hillary Rodham Clinton’s presidential campaign announced this evening that it was donating $23,000 to charity after one of its leading donors, Norman Hsu, who had given an equivalent amount to Mrs. Clinton over the years, acknowledged today that there appeared to be an outstanding warrant for his arrest.

According to the Clinton campaign, Mr. Hsu has contributed $23,000 to various fund-raising committees associated with Mrs Clinton: $4,600 to Hillary Clinton for President, $8,400 to Friends of Hillary (which was primarily her Senate fund-raising vehicle), and $10,000 to HillPac, her political action committee.

“In light of the new information regarding Mr. Hsu’s outstanding warrant in California, we will be giving his contributions to charity,” said Howard Wolfson, Mrs. Clinton’s campaign communications director.

Asked about the propriety of other donations that Mr. Hsu collected from third-party sources on Mrs. Clinton’s behalf, Mr. Wolfson said: “We regularly review contributions as we receive them; we will continue our practice of scrutinizing contributions and, should we have a basis to return a contribution, we will do so.”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/29/clinton-campaign-will-give-hsu-money-to-charity/
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:28 PM
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1. And this accomplishes what?
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:35 PM
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2. If we pretend this is business as usual, it will be. We should expect more from our party, and we
Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 07:36 PM by flpoljunkie
should let the candidates and their campaigns know that we expect more from our own.

We need clean campaigns and clean money. This Hsu story is probably not over.

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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:38 PM
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4. They're giving the money to charity.
You're trying to hit them with anything you've got, and stumbling to do so quite frankily.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:45 PM
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5. If you do not understand how corrupt our campaign finance system has become, and with the
Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 07:47 PM by flpoljunkie
complicity of our own party, then there is nothing else to say.

Have you read about the Paw family? If not, you should.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118826947048110677.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:55 PM
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6. if you're questioning the Paw family
then perhaps you can illuminate us on Obama's continued friendship with that Mafia guy? Or is their a different standard when it comes to someone other than Hillary.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 06:59 AM
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25. The Paw family is not speaking to anyone at this point.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:59 PM
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7. These sorts of stories will continue to "pop up" with the Hillary camp...
Oh, how I *don't* long for the days of the Clinton "funny money" stories...
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 08:29 PM
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10. He gave to other Dems, too. Don;t get too excited.
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 04:44 AM
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21. Hsu donated to Obama, Kerry, Boxer, Ted & Patrick Kennedy, Ford and many others.

Source: Newsmeat


Hopefully, a lot of charities will benefit.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 10:38 PM
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13. Considering Obama's relationship with Tony Rezko...
And the fact that Obama gave money Rezko contributed to charity...I find that statement very curious...
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:24 PM
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15. careful, Elmer
bring up Tony Rezko and you'll be accused of being racist, like I just was. oh well. sensitive supporters say the silliest things, right? :eyes:
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:46 PM
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18. Par for the course for the Obama thought police at DU nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:16 AM
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29. Yeah, and that goes for
all supporters.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:47 PM
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19. Ironic, especially since the national media buried the Rezko story except for 1-2 days
Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 11:49 PM by draft_mario_cuomo
Ever hear of it since it finally made the national news in June? One key part is Obama was doing legal work for Rezko when Obama's constituents were freezing without heat for weeks in a building owned by Rezko that Obama helped secure millions of dollars of taxpayer funding for ($168,000 can buy a lot of "new kind of politics" love). Think we will hear about this if Obama is the nominee? Let's compare this to the Hsu story...
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 07:35 AM
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26. Actually they will pop up with any Dem
And I mean by that any politician, in this situation a Dem.

Nobody wants to touch bundling, even as all three of our top candidates have issues with bundlers, (there will always be scandals with bundlers because they're outside the campaign finance laws and it's easy for them to game the system as it is; and it's easy for the candidate to say, oh gee, I didn't know); because the candidates need the money for the permanent campaign. Public campaign finance never is resolved, because there's always next time, only next time never comes when campaigns begin the day after Election Day.

And don't anybody start yelling so and so doesn't take PAC money, so and so doesn't take lobbyist money, because those are meaningless phrases as long as corporations can bundle without transparency. They're just doing the job of the PACs and lobbyists through the back door. A million dollars is a million dollars, even if it's collected by industry executives from other executives and employees, tied with a ribbon, and handed over.

It drives me nuts :crazy:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 08:19 AM
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27. I also find Edwards' distinctions meaningless, as well. Trial lawyers are some of the biggest
contributors to the political process. Just click on the link below from open secrets which details the money received from presidential candidates from lawyers/law firms, some of which, particularly in D.C., are big time lobby shops, as well.

Edwards is in the lead, followed closely by Clinton and Obama.

http://opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=K01

Bill Clinton did not push for public financing of campaigns when Dems were in control of Congress. Congress balked because they liked the process just the way it was. They could continue to have lobbyists serve as their campaign fundraisers, thereby building up campaign bank accounts to ward off any competition.

How corrupt our democracy has become!
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 08:34 AM
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28. Exactly right
And very sad. I think of the amounts being poured into this election and how that money could rebuild New Orleans ten times over and I want to cry.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:35 PM
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3. it takes away an issue
that could have been hung around her neck like an albatross by Hillary Haters.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 08:01 PM
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8. Yeah sure....
The issue's gone away now. Move along everyone... Nothing to see here.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 09:11 PM
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11. and your boy Obama
is as pure as the driven snow. :sarcasm:

Seriously, when did DU turn into a grade school playground circa 1979?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 10:28 PM
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12. My "boy"?
Racist much?
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:23 PM
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14. wow!
read into everyday words much? geez! :eyes: and people wonder why I'm not into Obama. Perhaps it's his supporters accusing me of being racist because I brought up an obviously sensitive point who drive me away? Hmmmm ... perhaps.

Very repuglican of you, by the way, to change the subject with the use of a personal slur. I'm sure your man (is that better?) Obama would be proud.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 05:23 AM
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23. your "man"?
Hate cops much? :P

:hide:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 08:16 PM
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9. Personally I don't think any campaign should give the money to charity
If they consider the money ill gotten then it should be returned to the contributor.

A Republican receiving money from a same sex preference person might accept it until the media finds about it. Should it be returned to the contributor or given to charity?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:38 PM
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16. Does anyone know what charity the money will go to?
It's unfortunate when donors to campaigns get caught with dubious intentions or histories. I don't necessarily think that Hsu's money directly reflects on the Clinton campaign.

I do wonder what specific charity the money will go to and if it's traceable...


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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:45 PM
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17. Too bad Obama could not do this with the $2,300 he got from bigot Isiah Washington
This is not the first time Clinton has taken the high road and returned contributions from a less than acceptable character.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 12:36 AM
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20. self delete nt
Edited on Thu Aug-30-07 12:37 AM by draft_mario_cuomo
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 06:48 AM
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24. Isiah Washington?
he took money from that homophobic creep? wow, Obama's looking better and better :sarcasm:
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 04:44 PM
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31. Yes, and it was in the Washington Blade. Obama couldn't do what HRC did and give the money away
HRC received money from a bigot in 2000. When it was discovered she returned the money. Obama apparently needs every penny he can get his hand on, even though he has raised the most money. :crazy:

http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Isaiah_Washington.php

Contributor Candidate or PAC Amount Date
Washington, Isaiah
Beverly Hills , CA 90210
ABC/Touchstone/Actor OBAMA, BARACK (D)
President
OBAMA FOR AMERICA $2,300
primary 0
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 05:19 AM
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22. More reason to vote
for DK. Why you all try to twist and turn and stick up for this kind of crap I'll never know. Regardless of who is doing it.
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Broke Dad Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:40 AM
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30. Hahahaha
DUers post to point out a link to funny money and two days later little Hill's campaign is going to give it to "charity."

Nice work Duers! Keeping little Hill's campaign semi-honest is a service to both progressives and the Democratic Party!
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