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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 08:13 PM Original message |
Will Dean's War on Florida Backfire? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. Should we cede 27 electoral votes for 11 just to preserve the royal status of IA and NH? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. What did Iowa do for us in 2004? They gave us "Mister Electable." |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Is that better or worse than what Florida did for us in 2000 and 2004 |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. We need Florida; we don't need Iowa nt |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. "these folks knew the rules" Are we a Stalinist party now? |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Read Madflo's journal. The Dems were as hot to do this as the Republicans |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. If I wanted to know who the Gnostics were, I wouldn't go to the Catholic Church |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Then how about this: |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. "The Florida Dems signed off on the rules." Somehow Myers-Briggs type SJ comes to mind. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Why elect a Chairman if you're not going to listen to him? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Senator Nelson and Florida delegates are arrested at Democratic Convention in Denver |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 08:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
46. YOUR posting history, IndianaGreen, since you brought up the topic has been one dividing Democrats |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. The Congressional Democrats cave-in on war funding and warrantless searches did more to divide... |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. And NH barely voted for Kerry and that was because he was from next door Mass. |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
38. Ummm... wrong. Iowa went to Dukakis in 1988 |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. If Kerry was in the race right now |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
6. Goody. Let's attack the DNC from the left and from the right. |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Yes, couldn't the state party have said, please help! GOP holding us hostage! |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. In fact, almost all of them voted for it. Some have said they had to as it was a popular bill |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. But many of you bought the argument that Congressional Democrats lacked the votes to stop Bush |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Apples and oranges. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Chairman Dean is showing the same authoritarian streak of a Tom DeLay |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Get off your high horse. If the state party hadn't endorsed this move they'd have delegates. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. So because the DNC had its feathers ruffled, you are going to punish the voters? |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. No indication? Eat link. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. I think that the perceptions of some are being colored |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 05:56 AM Response to Reply #20 |
44. LOL! I love your rhetoric! |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. I would LOVE for Dean to punish Iowa and NH likewise if they do that. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. The horror and the mockery is having Iowa and New Hampshire always first |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
14. Why holler about Dean pulling dem votes..... |
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Colonel Bat Guano (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. So if all FL Dems in the leg voted no.... |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Yes, if they'd done that this would not be happening. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Which is why I think it's rather bad form to now say that even if they voted against it would pass |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 01:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
42. Here's what the committee said. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
25. Latest poll among democrats here in Florida is over 2 to 1 against the DNC action |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. See, there's a really basic problem here... |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. You're fight, they could have put up a token fight in public... |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Looks like the GOP does not have a monopoly on disenfranchising voters |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Eh, fuck the rules |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 09:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Could be because they have one side of the story. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. The Republicans are threatening too |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Acutally, the RNC is only threating 1/2 or a 1/3, not the entire delegation. |
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jmp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #25 |
45. The Dem votes aren't the problem ... |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-28-07 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
37. Well it must be true. |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
40. Sounds like poor handling on the part of the DNC |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 01:06 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Florida lied and the DNC caught them at it. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 08:32 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Waaa Waaa Waaa |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-29-07 05:52 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. You are correct. |
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