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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:38 PM
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New Yorkers trust Clinton over Giuliani on Terra
Poll: New Yorkers Prefer Hillary Over Rudy...To Handle Terrorism!
By Greg Sargent - August 28, 2007, 3:42PM

As you've probably heard by now, Rudy Giuliani's 9/11 performance was a Masterful Display of Churchillian Resolve, and as a result, Rudy the candidate should now be seen as a kind of cross between the Terminator and Dwight Eisenhower, who ran for President after his stint as commander of the allied forces in Europe.

Presumably, the people who would best know this are New Yorkers, who got the closest view of Rudy in the disaster's aftermath.

So when New Yorkers are asked who they trust more to handle terrorism, Rudy or Hillary, naturally they pick Rudy, right? Well, take a look at this new Rasmussen poll. It finds:

Which of NEW YORK'S PRESIDENTIAL HOPEFULS do you trust the most to handle the War on Terror?

36% Giuliani
44% Clinton


-snip

Meanwhile, the poll also finds that Hillary is crushing Rudy the Terminator of Terrorists by an astonishing 25-point margin in New York, 58%-33%. Which would seem to make it tougher for Rudy to sustain his argument that he's the one who as GOP nominee would put reliably blue states -- such as his own -- in play.


http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/08/poll_hillary_demolishing_rudy_with_25point_lead_in_new_york.php#comments




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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:42 PM
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1. Ha-Ha!


Go suck one, Guiliani.


So a terrorist attack automatically help the GOP, eh?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:42 PM
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2. He is such a douche bag.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:50 PM
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3. Wouldn't they trust Osama Bin Laden more than Guliani?
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:40 PM
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13. I was just about to post something to this effect - and I am a New yorker too!
So, I guess, that's your answer.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:26 PM
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4. Wonder what the MSM will do with this info?
Besides pretend they never heard it? :rofl:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:41 PM
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6. Yeah, this could be really significant for Democrats
If only it is heard enough to sink in.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:28 PM
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5. Thank goodness!
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 04:28 PM by polichick
I've never understood how so many people could buy Rudy's bullshit.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:43 PM
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7. Fluff
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 04:44 PM by ProudDad
Who cares about the phony "war on terra (tm)"

There's no such thing.

It's a myth to scare (and fleece $$ from) the sheep...
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:42 PM
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14. True that, but kept as a big talking point by MSM/propaganda
A lot of people still vote as MSM tells them to (hence the notion of "electability"). It's this fact that makes it significant.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 07:56 PM
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21. Anything that is postive about Hillary ..
would get a big dump from you. So what else is new?
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:42 PM
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24. Not talking about Hillary
just about the bullshit "war on terra (tm)"...
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:49 PM
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8. It's interesting that in the two states where Hillary has held a public position...NY and Arkansas..
She is incredibly popular...those that have the most opportunity to see her and evaluate her performance give her very high ratings...
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:46 PM
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18. Is she that popular in Arkansas?
I'm not necessarily doubting you, but I got the impression that AR has become quite a bit more conservative over the last several years...

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:07 PM
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23. Well if you go by polls showing her beating all Republicans...
By upwards of 18 points...

Even Rasmussen is showing her the runaway favorite in Arkansas...

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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:22 PM
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9. Let's see...Hillary's actually helped the 9/11 workers, Rudy's made blood money off them.
Yeah, I'd have to trust HRC more too!
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Broke Dad Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:32 PM
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10. Actually New Yorkers probably trust Castro more than Hizonner . . .
Have you seen this guy lately? Rudy looks more like death warmed over than Castro!

He was in Iowa at the State Fair and OMG! He either needs a week at a spa or a better embalmer! And seriously, the third wife's press is not playing well in Des Moines!

From Iowa it looks like Romney or Huckabee . . .
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 07:31 PM
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19. Thanks for the on-the-spot viewpoint!
I trust that so much more than the MSM's spin on anything.

Yeah, I bet Judy's not going over big there. Actually...where does she go over big?? LOL!
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:45 PM
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25. You mean this guy?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:33 PM
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11. And that should be the albatross hung on his neck.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 07:32 PM
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20. If the Dem Party would just publicize that, he'd be a goner next week.
If he should get the nom, that has to be a focus!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:34 PM
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12. Rudy is an empty suit and NY'ers know it better than anyone.
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 05:35 PM by AtomicKitten
K&R#5
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:44 PM
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15. Il Duce is not an empty suit! There's a lot of thirst for power inside that suit
believe me! There's an ego bigger that the entire Bushco!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:48 PM
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16. I stand corrected.
The swirling vortex of slime contained within his suit does, in fact, occupy space.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:44 PM
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17. Nice to see Rudy going down
The more I know about him (or any other republican for that matter), the more I dislike them. I think the guy is just plain crazy and he'd go unhinged during the campaign.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:04 PM
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22. New Yorkers should have fascistrudy's
number by now..except adam sandler, of course.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:53 PM
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26. FYI - From Harper's
A fate worse than Bush:
Rudolph Giuliani and the politics of personality

For subscribers only, I'm afraid...
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/08/0081631

Basic thrust of the article is that rudie is a one-trick pony who was on his way to oblivion when his fumbling through 9/11 gave him a new life (afterlife? Enrolled him into the un-dead?)...
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 09:08 PM
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27. Like Bush, Hillary fearmongers Al-Qaeda as justification for keeping a residual force in Iraq
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 09:09 PM by IndianaGreen
Fear is a proven technique to get people to do your own bidding.

We need a President that will turn the GWOT off, not keep it going to justify permanent war.
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