There's nothing to say

[duvinnie]

There's Nothing to Say
by Bill C. Davis


When asked about an affair on the locker room radio show hosted by the "insightful" political pundit Imus John Kerry responded by saying "There's nothing to say." Aside from being a somewhat evasive answer he stumbled into a motto for political success in modern day America - "There's nothing to say."

When the Congressional Black Caucus looked for one senator to stand with them in contesting the Florida electoral votes in 2000 there was nothing to say - from either of the Johns - Kerry or Edwards. Interestingly, Sharpton, who has emerged as hitman for the Democratic Leadership Council, was more interested in Dean's cabinet than he was in this important moment in American democracy. Why didn't one senator stand up for the disenfranchised African American voters? As both senators are going for those votes why didn't they fight for their rights to vote at a time when it would have been monumental? There was nothing to say.

read on at
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0217-06.htm

[Ficus]

1. plenty of blame to go around

besides the Johns. Actually, where were ANY of our candidates, or prominent leaders in the party besides Warren Christopher and Jesse Jackson?

[lancdem]

2. True

That was not one of our party's finer moments. :(

[liberalhistorian]

4. Definitely, which is why

I'm absolutely thrilled that Lieberman finally gave up and got a fucking clue and dropped out, and why I'm not all that happy with Kerry and Edwards being the frontrunners. But they're still light-years better than the Bushistas.

[NV1962]

3. Why didn't one senator stand up... Wha?

Another lazy "commentator" floats by... What's this "Bill C. Davis" do for a living, really?

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/civilrights/

Kerry's voting record on AA:
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=2867&can_id=S0421103

Contrast that with:

http://www.theadvertiser.com/news/html/05DE12F5-1193-4543-8DA6-E41FEA63CF89.shtml

(Edited - corrected link and add the following:)

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?sig_id=002424M

The following ratings are based on the votes the <NAACP> considered most important; the numbers reflect the percentage of time the representative voted the organization's preferred position.

John F Kerry gets a 100% score from the NAACP.

[sadiesworld]

5. Who is this guy?

Looks like a pretty specious use of an irrelevant, incomplete quote. Would have expected better from commomdreams.

[King of New Orleans]

6. Hadn't seen anyone work

the Kerry-intern rumor into a story that way before.

[NV1962]

7. What's your point in posting this drivel without comment, Duvinnie? - n/t

[NV1962]

8. Another gem by this "Bill C. Davis" rveals his agenda

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0113-08.htm

This professional of theatrics apparently thinks he does Howard Dean a service by writing unsubstantiated, vapid and chaotic pieces... Maybe that's why I never heard of the guy's "work" before!

[cosmicdot]

9. there may be plenty of blame to go around ... but, how many leaders...

does it take to do the right thing? do leaders have to be 'asked' to lead?

above party politics ... our system had been violated ... crimes may have been committed ... this is serious business ...

Of course, not everyone could play a role in the Electoral College on January 6, 2001 ... one had to be a Senator to participate in this particular situation ... needing one Senator to stand with the CBC's objection ... a role, which could have placed the whole fiasco back on Constitutional track instead of the ridiculous "we don't have time" to do it BS ...

the window of opportunity for other's Presidential aspirations was opening ... Al was going down; and, the dust hadn't settled when others saw their own campaign begin ... Lieberman didn't do squat, and he was the DLCer on the ticket ...

They all should have been standing shoulder-to-shoulder in Florida with Gore and Christopher.

Josh's Talking Points covered this Jan. 6, 2001, event ...

But I was talking to some folks in the Senate today. And maybe there's a little more to say about this. I talked to a source close to one of the Senators you'd really expect would have been high on the list of senators to go to. And apparently no member of House spoke to this senator and asked him to join the objection.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/000715.html
Josh seems think someone had to be asked ... whatever that means. We all knew what was going down ... our democracy taking a hit ...


it's a shame that Carol Moseley-Braun lost her Senate seat ...
(wonder if the GOP had things planned that far in advance?

It really is bothersome when we cover for the failures of our own.


Bill C Davis is a playwright. Who are you?

BILL C. DAVIS Aka – Gliserman:

Bill C. Davis is the author of Mass Appeal, which premiered
at The Manhattan Theatre Club, produced by Lynne Meadow,
directed by Geraldine Fitzgerald, and starring Milo O'Shea.


The play moved to Broadway where it received the Outer
Critic's Circle Award. Mr. Davis adapted the play as a
screenplay and it was made into a movie starring Jack Lemmon
and Charles Durning and was chosen one of the ten best films
for that year by The National Board of Review.

He also performed the role of Mark Dolson with Milo O'Shea, Charles Durning and Brian Keith. Mass Appeal has played in Paris, starring Jean Piat, where it received a Moliere Award. It has also played Poland, Brazil, Argentina, Sweden, South Africa
and Australia and is currently playing in Frankfurt, Germany.

Another play by Bill C. Davis, Dancing in the End-Zone,
premiered at the State Theatre in Miami, directed by Jose
Ferrer and starred Elaine Stritch. The play moved to Broadway
under Melvin Bernhardt's direction, with Pat Carroll.
Dancing in the End-Zone was also performed in Los Angeles starring Lois Nettleton, where the play received a Dramalogue award.

His play, Wrestlers, had its premiere in Los Angeles, with
Mr. Davis acting in it opposite Mark Harmon. The play was
Critic's Choice for the LA Times. The play was also staged at
the Hudson Guild with the author, Dan Butler and Elizabeth
Berridge in the cast and directed by Geraldine Fitzgerald.

Bill C. Davis directed his play Spine in Los Angeles with
Meredith Baxter and Mackenzie Astin. Spine was also directed
by the author at The George Street Playhouse with Caroline
Aaron and Justin Kirk.

Recently, Mr. Davis' comedy/drama, Avow, premiered Off-
Broadway at the Century Center for the Performing Arts under
the direction of Jack Hofsiss after being presented in
workshop at George Street Playhouse and the Director's
Company in New York City.

Bill C. Davis is collaborating with 18 year-old composer Brett Boles on an original musical, Austin's Bridge.

He is also developing two new plays: Muddy's Wing, which received a reading in the Berkshires with Maureen Stapleton.
All Hallowed was given a staged reading at the Writer's Institute in Albany, William Kennedy executive director.
His most recent play, The Sex King, received a workshop production at Carnegie-Mellon in Pittsburgh.

He has just completed his first novel, Connecticut Wildlife.

Bill C. also writes political essays for the online magazine Commondreams.org.

http://www.billcdavis.com/biography.htm

[NV1962]

10. That's why earlier I posted the link to a *1988* Senate vote

Vote to override President Reagan's March 16 veto, of the bill to provide broad coverage of four civil rights laws by making clear that, if one entity of an institution receives federal funds, the entire institution must abide by the anti-discrimination laws.

John F Kerry has a long and strong record on AA.

[cosmicdot]

22. supporting 'AA' is good: how does it compare to supporting the Republic

against a coup?

[NV1962]

11. Just read your added addendum

And yes, I already found out via Google that this "Bill C. Davis" pretends to be a playwright - which doesn't negate that said "Bill C. Davis" in his confusion referred to others instead of himself as having nothing to say.

He should stick to his profession - or at least try and not sabotage his own professional image with moronic drivel as the piece referred to in the opener of this topic: vanity is most dangerous for empty vessels.

[cosmicdot]

23. I tried to go to his website again today ... got an error msg

"The page cannot be displayed"

anyone have better luck?

[Ardee]

17. Thank you Cosmic, thank you

I fear though that your words are wasted in what increasingly appears to be an overwhelming tidal wave of "blame the messenger but heavens dont read or think about the message."

[NV1962]

18. Oh, but Drudge also gets me thinking, you know...

I mean, things like context, channel and delivery -- just for example -- have no effect on the semantic charge of the message, right?

When you're done presumptuously inferring that nobody here does "read or think about the message" let me know.

[DemBones DemBones]

12. I realize "There's Nothing to Say" is the title of this article, but

using it as your thread header makes it impossible to know what the thread is about without clicking on it.

That used to be, and may still be, against the rules for GD, before the two forums were created from one.

Whatever the current rules are, I wish people wouldn't do this. Please?

[NV1962]

14. I agree, but

in this case, my impression is that Duvinnie posted the article with the insidious and slanderous "Kerry intern" reference as its tell-tale opener primarily to suggest that Kerry (and indirectly, Edwards) "have nothing to say" on AA.

That's why I asked for Duvinnie's clarification, earlier.

I agree that discussion in this forum deserves more clarity in the topic titles, but there's a saying about leading Bill C. Davises to water...

[tameszu]

13. Wow, CommonDreams has really hit rock bottom

It's one thing to claim to be the mouthpiece of the progressive community; it may or may not be another thing to use it support Dean over the other Dem candidates; but it's definitely an entire other thing when it promotes crap like this.

[NV1962]

15. Absolutely!

This Bill C. Davis and Rush Limbaugh have a startling thing in common: both confuse their role as analysts with anal cysts.

[NV1962]

16. Kick - for shame

:kick:

[NashVegas]

19. Which Shame Would That Be?

The shame that comes with reversing 3 years of an editorial stance for political expedience?

I don't think they're guilty of it.

[NV1962]

20. The shame that this "Bill C. Davis" lacks of course - n/t

[NashVegas]

21. Put another way

What exactly should the writer be ashamed of?

[Freddie Stubbs]

24. None of the candidates stood up

Kucinich didn't. Kerry didn't. And Edwards didn't. It would have been foolish. It would have made us looks like sore losers.