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rodbarnett Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 02:05 PM
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CBS is Early: Dean's Campaign Hit with Another Blow after Wisconsin Loss
Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 02:07 PM by rodbarnett
http://punxfordean.org/

After you get to the web page scroll down to see the headline article. CBS reported the Dean Loss at 8:42 am this morning......WTF?

do a google news search with the headline "Dean's Campaign Hit with Another Blow after Wisconsin" and you get a hit but the link goes to a page where CBS47 removed the text. This is sorry S**t.


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SWPAdem Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 02:11 PM
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1. Why bother to waste time letting the voters decide?
Plus, they get the "scoop"!
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rodbarnett Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 02:16 PM
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4. Media has been using and abusing Dean since the begining
I can't believe this crap. I guess Dean should read the hand writing on the wall and capitulate. But then who will the media crucify next?
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SWPAdem Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 02:20 PM
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8. Whoever they want to crucify is my guess.
Apparently, the media thinks that ONLY they have the right to choose our leaders.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 02:52 PM
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12. Dean was the medias darling
For months and months. You dont get the cover Time and Newsweek in the summer, with positive headlines unless the media likes you. In fact, after the summer articles on Dean in these magazines , Dean soared thirty points above Kerry who until the media started raving about Dean, was in first place.

Dena went on to flub his advantage, but making contradictory statements, and engaging in esentially non-presidential public behavior, and the media reported on that as well. So Dean was given his lead by the media, and lost the media positive coverage when he behaved in a fashion that was inappropriate.
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 02:54 PM
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13. so to follow your logic
to it's conclusion - it's okay, then, for the media to declare the election results before the polls even open?
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 06:45 PM
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22. No
It is simply O.K. for the media to state the obvious.

Dean was not in the lead until the media started covered him quiite positive way in July. Suddenly Dean gainst thirty point on every other candidate. After a few months Dean starts flubbing, the meduia accurately reports on other candidates revelations of Deans record as Governor, and then Dean starts to crash.

It is not a media conspriracy to point out the obvious.

It is obvious that Dean will not do well in Wisconsin, after skipping 7 states, spending all of his time in that state, adn not being able to poll as the frontrunner, it is obvious that Dena does not have what it takes.

Pointing out the obvious is o.k. Even for the media.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 03:00 PM
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15. If Dean Was a Media Darling
Then how come ABD was able to use just about every story that was written about Dean as ammunition against his candidacy, right here in DU forums?
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 03:02 PM
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16. Dean made a few mistakes. But his mistakes didn't kill him.
His truth telling killed him.

Telling the truth is NOT Presidential.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 03:17 PM
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19. Media punching bag *not* media darling.
and

vs.

and and
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 06:47 PM
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23. We will follow the script.
So it was written.

So it shall be.

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mojo2004 Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 02:13 PM
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2. I hate to break it to you....
but Dean has zero chance of pulling out a victory today. Nobody goes into the day 24 points down in the polls and wins. It just doesn't happen.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 02:18 PM
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5. Why didn't we see this kind of crap for other candidates?
Oh, that's right, the media has nothing against Dean. What am I thinking?
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jansu Donating Member (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 02:26 PM
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11. Because Dean told Chris Matthews
on 12/1/04 that he would change the media ownership rules. See my post DU2004 on the link to this.
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 02:19 PM
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6. But that's not the point.
Yeah, Dean is probably not going to win. But this is ridiculous. It's still MORNING and most people haven't voted yet.

Besides that, they don't know how many points Dean will "lose" to -- why the need to make it a negative headline? Why isn't there more headlines that say: "Edwards campaign dealt another blow with Wisconsin loss" or "Kucinich campaign dealt another blow with loss"

I am SO sick and tired of Dean's unfair and negative press.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 02:20 PM
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7. That's hardly the point
Excluding your opinion, have you seen any stories from "legitimate" news sources that called a state primary before the polls even opened?
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 02:14 PM
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3. Gee, I guess it has been deciced.
That sure takes the stress out of voting.(sarcasm off)Actually I hope people in Wisconsin feel insulted enough by this, to go vote anyway.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 02:22 PM
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9. See my thread on this subject.
A lot of people called and some responses back. Take a look in GD2004 forum.
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BL_Zebub Donating Member (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 02:24 PM
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10. What in Hell's name is up with this shit?
This is at least 3 (and probably counting) Dean bashing media articles this morning.

I want to see Terry McUseless protesting this on live TV. I want to see the spineless party machine take a goddamned stand for something.

Of course the likelihood of this is about the same as me getting my harp and halo back :evilfrown:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 03:02 PM
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17. You Know What Would Be Gloriously Funny?
If, instead of keeping Dean voters home, these stories instead kept Kerry voters home. "Oh, he's won then, why bother?"

Hey, I can dream.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 02:57 PM
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14. Could this be routine? All networks, news services,

etc., have file copies of obituaries of many famous people on hand so that they can do a quick update and get the news out, with photos, bio, etc., whenever someone important dies.

Do they also prepare some political stories ahead? Perhaps it's routine to have a "Smith Loses, As Polls Predicted He Would" and a "Smith Comes from Behind, Gets More Votes than Expected" story already written, to be edited slightly when the polls close.

I don't know, but it would make sense that they do. I realize you're saying only a "Dean Loses" story was revealed this morning. I'm saying they might have a "Dean Comes from Behind" story on file, too, plus "Kerry Wins Again" and "Edwards Wins Wisconsin in Surprise Upset Over Kerry," etc.

Remember a couple of years ago when Reagan's obituary was found online? Some people were upset but every news organization wants to be "ready." I was told years ago that all the international news organizations have apartments overlooking St. Peter's Square in Rome, doing a death watch on Pope John Pail II. I also remember that the early reporting when Elvis died showed that no one expected that death. They weren't ready with enough photo and video clips.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 03:04 PM
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18. Yeah, that "Dean comes from behind" article is in here somewhere!
Yeah, that's the ticket!

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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 03:20 PM
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20. There's a bit of a difference
between having obituaries in the can and writing and releasing the "news" in advance.
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rodbarnett Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 06:28 PM
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21. kick
this needs to be seen
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 06:47 PM
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24. this is an example of how badly the media wants to crucify Dean
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 07:00 PM
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25. The media reports the media's success in destroying Dean
Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 07:24 PM by nu_duer
Before the event being reported on has even occurred.

This story - Dean's campaign inexplicably implodes, was written before the first vote was cast.

Un-friggin-believable.



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