Question for supporters of all candidates other than Kucinich re: health care proposals

[Sparkly]

I'm wondering what the argument is *against* Kucinich's proposal to take the HMOs out of the healthcare equation. It makes sense to me to eliminate the profit motive of the insurance companies. Why do the other candidates see it differently? Thanks in advance.

[eleny]

1. Hee-hee

http://buzz.ifas.ufl.edu/489ss2.wav

[Sparkly]

2. LOL -- Yeah really!!!

This is truly a serious and sincere question!! :shrug:

[eleny]

3. Oh, you!

I thought there was a wee bit of snark so I jumped in.

There's no plan like Kucinich's unless it's another country. He was great on MSNBC today with Armstrong. Even Tweety treated Kucinich with more respect today than I ever saw on Hardball. I really like Edwards but Kucinich knocks it out of the park every time on health care.
:hi:

[Sparkly]

4. I agree. He's definitely the one on healthcare, seems to me...

I'm thinking there MUST be some argument against his proposal, but if so I don't know what it is. Figured the other candidates' supporters would be able to say why their proposals aren't the same as Kucinich's.

As for my wee bit of snark -- that just comes naturally, even when I don't mean to sound that way -- ha! :hi:

[Sparkly]

5. Kick... Anyone?... Anyone?

:kick:

[LWolf]

6. K&R n/t

[Adelante]

7. Hellooooooo

Anybody out theeeeeere?

[Sparkly]

8. Okay, let me try it this way. I don't know whether this came up in a debate, but...

Imagine Kucinich describes his health care proposal: a universal, single-payer, not-for-profit health care system.

The moderator asks ALL the other candidates why they disagree with it, and why they believe their proposals are better.

Your favorite candidate says: ______________________________________

[burrowowl]

9. Good question!

Oh, we need a little Corporatism, just a bity mile instead of an inch.

:sarcasm:

[illinoisprogressive]

10. I think each of them have experts and such working with them and getting different input

I don't think they are not for whatever Kucinich is for. it is just that they are for their own more.

[Sparkly]

12. Thanks for posting!! What I want to know is WHY they're "for their own more."

If they were defending why their proposals are better than Kucinich's, what would they say? Why NOT take the insurance companies out of the equation and go with single-payer universal care?

[Ron Green]

11. They ain't got shit. Face it. They got doodley-squat.

They're all in the pockets of corporations, that's how they made their stripes, and they're all too dirty to walk away from it.

Disclaimer: I just got home from a showing of "Sicko."

[draft_mario_cuomo]

13. The argument is HR 676 is not achievable

Unfortunately, there is a reason why it is mired in subcommittee. It is better to expand health insurance to 40+ million people than to let perfect be the enemy of the good and achieve nothing.

[Sparkly]

15. "there is a reason why"

"Unfortunately, there is a reason why it is mired in subcommittee."

What is the reason?

[mrgorth]

14. His proposal is best

but he has no shot. Sorry.

[killbotfactory]

16. Kucinich's proposal is fine

It just will never get implemented within a reasonable amount of time, if ever.

Meanwhile, 18,000 people a year are dying in this country due to lack of health insurance.

The lobbyists to the health insurance industry are just way too powerful to get something like Kucinich's plan passed. Either the lobbyist culture in Washington needs to drastically change, or there needs to be a huge mass movement in favor of single-payer healthcare. Neither of which I see happening in the near future. The other option is to get a plan in that keeps our for-profit system, covers people with health insurance in the mean time, and then reform it after everyone is covered with some kind of insurance.