Edwards now within margin of error with Obama for 2nd place; Clinton leads with 40%

[draft_mario_cuomo]

Rass

Clinton 40%
Obama 21%
Edwards 17%
Richardson 5%
Kucinich 3%

:bounce:

If this is accurate it will force the press to give him more coverage. Remember, Obama was at 32% and leading the Rass poll at the end of April. His decline began after the first debate...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008__1/daily_presidential_tracking_polling_history
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/daily_presidential_tracking_poll__1

[William769]

1. Thats fantastic news!

[David__77]

2. I'd be OK with Obama or Edwards.

I definitely support Obama, but Edwards I could live with too. I would advise Obama to make a conscious effort to position himself as the most progressive "major candidate."

[jenmito]

3. Where'd you get those numbers? I just went to Rasmussen's site and see:

Date 08/20/07


Clinton 41%


Obama 23%


Edwards 13%

It also says this:

Monday, August 27, 2007
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Over the past week, Senator Barack Obama and former Senator John Edwards sharpened their attacks on Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton. The New York Senator provided some of the fodder herself with comments suggesting that some progress has been made in Iraq. Earlier in August, the former First Lady stumbled with a defense of lobbyists that didn’t resonate with anyone. Karl Rove even got in on the action by suggesting that Clinton is unelectable (a Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 43% would definitely vote against Clinton in 2008. Forty-four percent (44%) said the same about Republican hopeful Mitt Romney).

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/2008_democratic_presidential_primary

[draft_mario_cuomo]

4. Here are the numbers for today

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008__1/daily_presidential_tracking_polling_history

[jenmito]

6. OK, so Obama fell 2% since yesterday and Edwards fell 1%

Not really a big deal...

[draft_mario_cuomo]

9. If you spin it that way. If you remember Obama was at 32% in this poll and 19 points ahead of JE...

...it is a different story. I presume you are not an Edwards fan given your avatar. Still, you can't see why Edwards--for the first time all year--closing into the margin of error with Obama for 2nd place (with a fraction of the media coverage BO has enjoyed) is not a big deal? Here is some context.

2/22 (first poll after BO joined the race)

Obama 26%
Edwards 13%
+13 for Obama

3/15

Obama 30%
Edwards 11%
+19 for Obama

4/26

Obama 32% (1st place)
Edwards 17%
+15 for Obama

5/31

Obama 26%
Edwards 15%
+11 for Obama

6/28

Obama 26%
Edwards 13%
+13 for Obama

7/29

Obama 24%
Edwards 14%
+10 for Obama

8/27

Obama 21%
Edwards 17%
+4 for Obama

[jenmito]

11. Yup, I see it...just like I see Hillary's numbers have gone down 5% from Aug. 4th

while Obama's are at the same from Aug. 4th. Not good for Hillary. Good for Edwards.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

14. HRC was losing by 2 on April 26. Now she leads by 19

You have to look at the overall trend in these polls.

[jenmito]

16. And YOU have to realize these polls mean nothing right now...

Why'd you change your Edwards avatar? Just wondering...

[jsamuel]

17. well, they don't mean "nothing", they do encourage media attention for sure

as we have seen with the Obama v Clinton narrative that has been created. If Edwards can damage that through polling, then he can break the media narrative.

[jenmito]

18. True...

And hopefully the narrative will be more fair than the current one they have going on.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

19. They show trends and, as Jsamuel noted, influence media coverage

I changed my avatar for a change of pace, like I did in June with a RFK avatar. I still support Edwards 100%.

[jenmito]

23. You mean you don't support Hillary 100%?

You could've fooled me!

[pioneer111]

28. I think those are the highest numbers for Edwards so far

there is a lot of up and down movement in the polls but the trendlines are significant.

Edwards is getting more press these days and people like what they see.

More coverage will mean better polls. Go. Edwards. :woohoo:

[draft_mario_cuomo]

33. No but it matches his peak numbers from April

Edwards received an artificial bounce in the polls following his wife's cancer announcement. The bounce lasted for a couple of weeks. I He did reach 17% after the announcement and more or less stayed there for a month. Prior to it he had fallen to 11%. His current number is the highest level of real support he has ever had in the Rassmussen poll.

[rinsd]

5. Its Rasmussen's Daily Tracking poll for today

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/daily_presidential_tracking_poll__1

[wyldwolf]

7. Clinton +4%

[huskerlaw]

8. Hell yeah!

:woohoo:

:thumbsup:

[jsamuel]

10. That is quite a jump. Good news. I hope it holds.

[jefferson_dem]

12. Good for Edwards. He's polled well in the past couple days. We'll see if it lasts...

[usregimechange]

13. He will be the next president...

[Nimrod2005]

15. The stupid career politicians, Biden and Dodd are not even listed!!!

Goes to show you...Obama IS the fresh face, clean, articulate, next President of the United States!!!

[wyldwolf]

21. Obama is a career politician

:shrug:

[jenmito]

25. So then he's experienced!

:shrug:

[draft_mario_cuomo]

26. Does a 20 year city councilman have the experience to be prez?

One can be a career politician and still not have enough experience to be president.

[usregimechange]

27. Constitutional law professor, state and fed legislator, community organizer

etc, plus, he can think which means he is 3000% more capable than Bush.

[jenmito]

30. usregimechange said it right...

And you can apply your same logic to Hillary being first lady counting as experience.

[wyldwolf]

29. as a politician, yes.

[jenmito]

31. And therefore, as a qualified presidential candidate.

A successful qualified presidential candidate. :D

[wyldwolf]

32. he has a ways to go.

[jenmito]

34. No he doesn't. He's already there. And he has superior judgement

compared to the other candidates.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

35. The judgment meme was largely debunked by today's news

He voted for a Supreme Court nominee for political reasons, not because he exercised his magic "judgment."

[jenmito]

36. It's not a "meme." It's a fact. And talk about political reasons...

Hillary and Edwards both voted for the IWR for political reasons.

Hey-did you see this article?: "GOP activists root for Clinton win"

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0807/5515.html

[draft_mario_cuomo]

37. Based on what? There is no formula for judgment

Obama supporters think their own definition of judgment, which is tailor-made for Obama (namely by ignoring every vote Obama had to actually vote on), is the only real definition.

Yes, but I also look at a lot of polls. Clinton wins FL, PA, and ties in OH; Obama loses all three. Obama flips no red states; Clinton flips Arkansas, Virginia, and Kentucky at least among red states and wins purple states. How is Obama going to get to 270 electoral votes?

[jenmito]

39. Based on his speech against the war, which is a BIG DEAL...

I have yet to see Hillary OR Edwards show good judgement on anything-only political maneuvering.

Obama will flip SC and all the states Hillary would flip. Many Repub. voters would vote for Obama while only the RNC wants Hillary to be our nominee.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

42. HRC is preferred on Iraq by 20+ points so most voters prefer her judgment on Iraq

Again, Obama fans are creating their own definition and declaring it to be the only true one. As usual, it is tailor-made to fit Obama. What about the Iraq votes Obama actually had to cast a vote on? He has been identical to Clinton on those.

Obama can't even win PA, which Kerry won. How is he going to win SC, Arkansas, Kentucky, and Virginia? If Obama has such great appeal why is he losing PA, FL, and OH while Clinton wins FL, PA and ties in OH? :shrug: Show me one poll of Obama flipping a red state.

[jenmito]

44. Nah. They just think she's more experienced because she's married to an ex-president.

I can't give you polls into the future by I predict Obama WILL be able to flip more states than Hillary can. As you know, the GOP wants her to be our nominee. Real Repub. voters prefer Obama because they're tired of the same ol' politics.

[Adelante]

38. You and Wyldwolf made me laugh at the same minute

:D

[jenmito]

40. I'm glad I made you laugh

no matter WHAT the reason. :hi:

[ecstatic]

20. LOL. Maybe all your bashing paid off?

People came to DU: GDP and realized what a horrible person Obama is. :eyes:

[draft_mario_cuomo]

24. What is happening to Obama is not surprising for a "blank slate" candidate

Watch the same thing happen to F. Thompson as people learn of his actual views, his warts and he ceases to merely be a blank screen onto which Republicans can project their own views onto.

[usregimechange]

22. k & r

[sampsonblk]

41. Cool. How much does 2nd place pay?

I know, I know. I just couldn't resist.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

43. Millions of dollars worth of free media coverage

;)

[sampsonblk]

45. Obama drops precipitously following Clinton 'gaffe'

Love to hear an explanation of this.