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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:05 AM Original message |
Getting Real About Chavez: Confessions of a Former Chavez Defender |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
1. Thank you. Finally, some sanity on the DU boards about what |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
2. Nonsense - we had no term limits for President until FDR - and no harm or "dictator" was the |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I have heard this from other (non-right wing) sources. |
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Progressive Friend (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
43. The authors of the Federalist Papers specifically argued against term limits for the president |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
47. One teensy little difference |
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Progressive Friend (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. It wouldn't matter, Bush could not win a third term... |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. nope - term limits are via elections - Democracy does not depend on them - but GOP stolen elections |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
74. Because even our side can become blind and irrational |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 07:34 AM Response to Reply #74 |
101. Democracy is people able to elect whomever they want - term limits limit democracy IMO n/t |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
4. Hey Wyldwolf! We Agree On This! |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. We both despise Bush, too. We agree on TWO things. Hey - do you like Mexican food? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
21. Having It For Lunch, As A Matter Of Fact |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. well, there's three things. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
38. I think Hell just froze over. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
6. Another Reichwing/DLC hit piece on Chavez |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Care to show the rightwing/DLC connection with this piece's author? No? Didn't think so. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. yoo hoo! I know you're still on line this morning. Got that connection yet? |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. The DLC connection is you, wyldwolf. n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:52 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. are you copping out for Lakespur or just copping out for yourself? |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Neither, I'm a militant leftist and you're a centrist Democrat. Your .sig and |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. the conversation wasn't about me, it was about the author of the piece. YOU answered for Lakespur.. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. My reply was about you, you seemed impatient for a DLC connection, |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. my replies stay on topic. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Yes, I can see that. You are nothing if not consistent. |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. A militant leftist.... |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I've been arrested a few times for violence on picket lines, but I'm no Maoist. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
51. But Wyld didn't write the peice. What about the author or the site |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
55. Is WW even a DLC member? |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
118. Wyldwolf is more well spoken than Harold Ford. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-22-07 07:23 AM Response to Reply #118 |
134. A little history, perhaps? |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:33 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. What do you make of Koogler arguing that US sponsored propaganda in the middle east doesn't go far |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Relevance? |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:40 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. What do you make of his argument that US-funded propaganda isn't doing enough |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:53 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Relevance? |
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Progressive Friend (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
50. This proves that he was never a "Chavez supporter", he is a neocon |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
61. The relevance is that Koogler is not a left wing critic of Chavez. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
37. Did you even read that column? He was taking Joel Mowbay of the WSJ. Here's the article |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #37 |
102. He thinks US-sponsored ME propaganda doesn't do a good enough job |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #102 |
119. Yeah ok. Because no one should speak truth to autocratic regimes |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #119 |
130. As far as ME politics goes, it's the US that needs to be lectured on how to behave |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #6 |
22. No. Another rightwing, DLC drone posting on DU about Chavez |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. ah, another DU reject who only comes around occasionally... |
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sanskritwarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 02:44 AM Response to Reply #25 |
91. Good show sir |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
75. What about fixed elections resulting in a quasi dictatorship |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #75 |
121. Can You Imagine.. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
8. This just makes me wonder if Koogler even supported Chavez |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. A seasoned great mind telling us all the truth which has eluded us, eh? |
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Wilber_Stool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
13. I wonder how long he supported |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. OMFG, that's great. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Oh, jeez. That's so pathetic. Hey, wait! Maybe he's a GENIUS! Maybe with a vast mind like his, |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #13 |
30. LMFAO....19 years old? That's a lot of wordly experience. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
57. We didn't worry about age when it was Ava did we? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #57 |
77. If you want to accept the views of a kid on a complex world issue feel free. |
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sanskritwarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 02:46 AM Response to Reply #77 |
92. LOL you know what Ava we are talking about |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 02:57 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Actually,when I posted I didn't think of it. |
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sanskritwarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 02:50 AM Response to Reply #30 |
93. Wow |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 03:01 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. I have never spoken of,quoted,or even indirectly said a word about her. |
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sanskritwarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 03:03 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Since when did I say I agreed with Koogler |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 03:06 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Cool,glad to hear it. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #96 |
105. HA! WHO do you think you're fooling? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #105 |
124. No one. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. Jeb Koogler is old enough to join the military! |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #41 |
59. So we're sending off anyone we disagree with to Iraq, not just Republicans? |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
45. 19 and already more insight than half the people on this thread |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
48. Chavez' first day of office was February 2, 1999. That means he would have become |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 01:14 AM Response to Reply #48 |
84. LMFAO...this whole thread has been great. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
27. thug life. nt. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
33. Jeb Koogler kick! A great mind like this should be celebrated! n/t |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
34. Ah, so after exhaustive search of the internet tubes |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Yeah, and if ProudDad sees |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
35. FYI |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Maybe he was smitten by the vision of another Young Republican kicking the bejesus |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 06:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. You'd be raving about his astute observations at such a young age if you agreed with him. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
66. I have yet to see lies and misinformation from Ava |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Nevertheless her age didn't matter in that determination |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 01:27 AM Response to Reply #67 |
85. Actually his age DOES matter |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 01:29 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. "pretty much everyone does it at some point or another." |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 07:03 AM Response to Reply #67 |
99. Her age would have mattered had she claimed "long term" anything. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
69. I'm not really dissing Koogler |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
40. The Freepers and the DLCers are wetting their pants about Jeb Koogler |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
42. Printing out to read later |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 11:14 PM Response to Reply #42 |
71. You deserve a civil honest answer. |
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Progressive Friend (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
46. Note that Koogler's sources are "Human Rights Watch" and the "NY Times" |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. How exactly do you reckon that George Soros is right wing? |
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nick303 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. There are a few problems here |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #54 |
72. Soros is a sinfully rich pro-capitalist booster |
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nick303 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 12:00 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. I don't think you live in the same "real world" as most people nt |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #78 |
115. Most of the sheeple |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #72 |
122. I'm not prejudiced against people for merely having money, even if they have lots of it |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #122 |
127. It's almost unheard of in this |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Accurate points, as you well know. Also, the visitors started using that "used to like Chavez" |
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nick303 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. From SIA News? Banner "The voice of the right"? |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #56 |
68. My head hurts now |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 05:35 AM Response to Reply #56 |
98. So are you saying the points made are incorrect? It's information I find worth posting. |
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nick303 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #98 |
125. Ridiculous |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #56 |
116. I got a minute today to look for something from a different source which you, as a "progressive" |
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nick303 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #116 |
128. I wouldn't call myself a progressive |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-22-07 06:21 AM Response to Reply #116 |
131. Adding another Soros article, one more detailed, for information's sake. |
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Mutineer (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
58. So being 19 doesn't give you a brain? |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
73. He has his (immature) opinion |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
60. Koogler has never been a supporter of Chavez |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
63. I call bullshit. This is a RW hit piece. Not one post in support of Chavez |
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nick303 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. It's a linked article n/t |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
64. How do you suppose he'd do on the quiz "A tale of two countries--which is which?" |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
65. I believe this is quite overblown |
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liberalsoldier5 (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
76. Excellent Post!! |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 12:02 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. So let me get this straight |
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liberalsoldier5 (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 12:17 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Arguing with the fringe is almost too easy... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 12:36 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. There never was a shutdown, and Chavez opposition owns 80% of the media |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 12:43 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. I'll play |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 02:02 AM Response to Reply #80 |
88. For someone who finds it "easy" to debate the "fringe" |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 02:11 AM Response to Reply #80 |
89. I would have no problem with Bush bumping an 'opposition' station to cable |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 07:08 AM Response to Reply #80 |
100. Re (2) |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #80 |
112. Then you are in serious need of another screen name - you are NOT a fellow LIBERAL. |
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liberalsoldier5 (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Then Nancy Pelosi is "not a fellow liberal" either. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-22-07 06:30 AM Response to Reply #114 |
132. That is a particularly poor choice. |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 09:51 AM Response to Reply #76 |
106. If a leading American TV network openly participated in a violent coup against the democratically |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
82. Now let's hear your defense of Columbia's death squads |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 01:27 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Uribe didn't call Bush the Devil |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
90. First 5 pages from Google is this blog making the "Hugo is Evil" circuit. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
103. Mud Slides |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #103 |
113. Thanks so much for posting the article, Maribelle. Really helpful. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
104. It sickens me that many people here would support left-wing authoritarians... |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #104 |
109. Chavez is not a dictator. That is merely a myth pushed by right wing fascists. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #109 |
123. Only partially true. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-22-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #123 |
137. "Term limits" have absolutely nothing at all to do with protection from dictators. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
107. Sorry wyldwolf, but knowing what I know about you here, I don't believe that you ever liked Chavez |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #107 |
108. and knowing what I know about you here, your reply isn't at all surprising (holding back laughter) |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #108 |
110. "I didn't write the piece. " True, but it's so much easier to smear than support the positive. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #110 |
111. you're like the kid who loses a race then claims "my foot was hurting." |
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DuaneBidoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
117. Indeed! The seduction of power does not just infect the right. All humans are vulnerable. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
120. I'll take Chavez over any Saudi Arabian king any day |
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d_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
126. *fart* |
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justinaforjustice (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-21-07 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
129. Venezuela's Doing Fine, It's the U.S. That's The Undemocratic Disaster |
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JunkYardAngel (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-22-07 07:15 AM Response to Reply #129 |
133. Thanks for your post |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-22-07 07:36 AM Response to Reply #129 |
135. It's wonderful seeing what's happening there, and to hope that what appears to be a strong |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-22-07 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
136. What utter bullshit. |
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Don1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-22-07 09:10 AM Response to Reply #136 |
138. Yup. |
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