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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 09:01 PM
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White House slams Clinton TV ad; Senator Clinton: "Apparently I've struck a nerve...."
August 14, 2007
White House calls Clinton ad 'outrageous'


The White House responded to Clinton's first campaign ad Tuesday.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – President Bush has repeatedly said he won't weigh in on the presidential race yet, but that didn't stop a White House spokesperson from calling Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton's first campaign ad "outrageous."

The ad, which started running in Iowa Tuesday, shows Clinton at a recent campaign rally saying, "If you're a family that is struggling and you don't have health care, you are invisible to this president. If you're a single mom trying to find affordable child care so you can go to work, you're invisible too."

She is also seen saying the president treats the troops in "Iraq and Afghanistan as though they were invisible as well."...

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The Clinton campaign seemed delighted the White House highlighted the ad, immediately flagging Perino's comments on its Web site with the headline, "White House Attacks Hillary's New Ad."

Clinton herself shot back at the Perino's comments while campaigning in Dubuque, Iowa Tuesday, according to the Associated Press.

"Apparently I've struck a nerve, the White House just attacked me a few minutes ago," she said. "Not only have I said it and am saying it, I will keep saying it because I happen to believe it."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/08/14/white-house-calls-clinton-ad-outrageous/

LINK TO AD, "INVISIBLE": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3xepwid_sY
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 09:04 PM
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1. Hillary hit them where it hurt....she has finally spoken
the truth....the truth we have been waiting for..

Why is everyone else so afraid to call the War Prezdent to the mat?

I haven't decided who I am voting for but this is a good commercial for Hillary....if it wasn't working the Mafia in the WH wouldn't have responded...

and Dana the stand in spokesperson should crawl back into the hole she crawled out of.....she is horrible...
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 09:10 PM
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2. I'm an Obama supporter, and I agree! Hillary didn't flinch; she's wearing that slam from the WH...
like a badge of honor. That's what we need from our party.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:35 AM
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25. Yep, Hillary is the only one SLAMMING the WH ...
telling it like it is...Just wait until the General, she'll really turn up the heat.

Wondering whats happening with BO and JE... A real merry-go-round of clarification, restatement, more clarification, BO using JE's old campaign speeches reshuffled and fed willy-nilly to the masses. At least Edwards understood what he was saying..
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CTD Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 08:39 AM
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22. Bullshit. The WH is HELPING Hillary.
What can help her more right now than an attack from the WH? If helps her gain "cred" with the liberal base.

Hell, it seems you all are buying it.

I don't.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:07 AM
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26. Jesus H Christ
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 10:07 AM by ronnykmarshall
:eyes:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 03:37 PM
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34. OMG, what a moronic statement.
I'm not a Hillary supporter by any means, but that is just ludicrous paranoia.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 09:11 PM
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3. One thing I don't get
Haven't Edwards and Kucinich (among others!) been saying this
for a long time, not to mention Howard Dean?

How come the Bushies suddenly get all riled up when Hillary says it?
They have never been known for their thick skin. I don't give them
enough credit for making this some calculated sneaky way to support
Hillary, so this makes it somewhat interesting.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 09:15 PM
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4. Yes they have but the question is how are they getting their
message out. Edwards and Kucinich have to use media effectively...there are plenty of magnificant American Ad Agencies and I bet that there are many Democratic leaning agencies... so far I am not impressed...I like both for different reasons....if they want to fight they have to stop playing nice.....

Whomever is doing Hillary's commercials is doing a great job.

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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 09:16 PM
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6. The WH more than likely
doesn't take the candidacies of Edwards and Kucinich seriously. I'm sure they're watching the Poll numbers and -- whether they're true or not -- Hillary apparently is leading by fairly wide margins in most of them while Edwards and Kucinich are not (Edwards polling 3rd in most, I think, with Kucinich in the single digits perhaps?).

Anyway, I don't think the WH believes either Edwards or Kucinich will be the Nominee, so, in their political minds, their attacks are not worth responding to. Hillary? I think they're taking her seriously.
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 09:49 PM
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9. Kucinich is effectively sidelined
media is controlled by rich people with certain interests

"The system of control in democratic societies is extremely effective. We do not notice the line any more than we notice the air we breathe. We sometimes even imagine we are seeing a lively debate. The system of control is much more powerful than in totalitarian systems." chomsky
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:11 AM
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11. Because Hillary is the presumptive 2008 nominee. nt
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 09:16 PM
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5. That's awesome.
Edited on Tue Aug-14-07 09:17 PM by liberalmuse
"I see Hillary and her dirty pillows" Bush and the Washington Post
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 09:18 PM
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7. Republicans feel they are running against Hillary, that's why they pay attention to her
while I don't... Gobama!
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 07:23 AM
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16. Republicans are running against Hillary.
Because they know she's the one to beat. Why attack someone you don't fear?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 09:34 PM
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8. You can bet this ad will begin to fire up the Repug base
All I can say to the Clinton Team....

...incoming...

About the ad:

On healthcare reform, what has Clinton done since having been Senator? After getting drubbed in 1993, Clinton has pretty much done nothing about that. Where's the leadership on that issue?

On single mothers getting support, didn't Clinton's husband sign in "welfare reform", which has many that left welfare employed at jobs averaging $7.50/hour, while many others are dependent on family, friends for assistance to make ends meet as well as giving up their children to foster care because of lack of housing, daycare and food. She has done nothing to change that tragedy.

On veterans coming home from unnecessary wars, she in fact supported the very disaster that she is speaking about as though she had nothing to do with it.

Hey, but some nice editing, some tear-jerker background music and the voice is just a shade below screechy. As for real content, I found that invisible.





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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 09:56 PM
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10. Did that memo come to you on Sean Hannity letterhead?
On healthcare reform, what has Clinton done since having been Senator? After getting drubbed in 1993, Clinton has pretty much done nothing about that. Where's the leadership on that issue?

Hillary helped create the State Children's Health Insurance Program, the single largest expansion of children's health care in American history. SCHIP provides coverage for more than six million low-income children.

She also helped create the Vaccines for Children program, which increased childhood immunization rates to an all-time high, with 90 percent or more of America's toddlers receiving the most critical vaccines by age two.

In the Senate, Hillary has continued her work to expand access to health insurance to all Americans. She fought to protect SCHIP against drastic cuts proposed by the Bush administration and championed efforts to end discrimination by insurance companies against people with mental health and substance abuse problems.

Hillary led the fight for the Early Treatment for HIV Act, which expands access to vital treatment options for low-income individuals living with HIV. She also fought to fully fund the Ryan White CARE Act to improve access to treatment and support for those living with HIV and AIDS. She passed legislation to provide extra funding for the flu vaccine and proposed legislation to combat diabetes, autism, and asthma.

On single mothers getting support, didn't Clinton's husband sign in "welfare reform", which has many that left welfare employed at jobs averaging $7.50/hour, while many others are dependent on family, friends for assistance to make ends meet as well as giving up their children to foster care because of lack of housing, daycare and food.

As Obama supporters LOVE to remind everyone, Hillary isn't Bill. But if you really WANT to attach Bill's record to Hillary, I'll play, too:

* Fastest and Longest Real Wage Growth in Over Three Decades.
* Household Income Breaks $40,000 for First Time in History.
* Unemployment is the Lowest in Over Three Decades
* Lowest Poverty Rate Since 1979.
* Largest One-Year Drop in Child Poverty in More than Three Decades.
* Improved Access to Affordable, Quality Child Care and Early Childhood Programs.
* Doubled Child Support Collections.
* Teen Births Down to the Lowest Rate on Record.
* Enacted Single Largest Investment in Health Care for Children since 1965.

THANK YOU HILLARY!!!!

On veterans coming home from unnecessary wars, she in fact supported the very disaster that she is speaking about as though she had nothing to do with it.

And Obama, after having his arm twisted to give an anti-war speech, said he did no know how he would have voted for it had he been in the Senate and has supported the war since he was elected Senate.





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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 02:23 AM
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14. Here we go again with the usual Clintonian tripe...
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 02:24 AM by zulchzulu
Here we go with the usual "Hillary helped"... according to the NYT:


"... Senator Max Baucus, Democrat of Montana and chief sponsor of the bill, said, “Millions of American children have hope for a healthier future tonight.”

The bill would increase spending on the popular Children’s Health Insurance Program by $35 billion over the next five years.

“Covering these children is worth every cent,” said Senator Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah, who helped create the program 10 years ago."

(http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/03/washington/03health.html?ei=5090&en=2c6c76f39501d11d&ex=1343793600&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1187161669-hRIomv+iTvAV1qB2hddlRQ)

Trying to append Hillary Clinton to this bill is well...you know the answer.

As for the "Early Treatment for HIV Act", according to record, "This bill never became law". Nice try, but if you are bragging about her leadership and mention a bill that never passed, well... .you know the answer.

(http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-311)

Your excellent copy-and-paste skills are worthy. But still trying to pin what's on Bill's resume to Hillary's is well... you know the answer.

Also, since in order to defend your candidate, you feel a need to misrepresent another like urinating in a cake mix, your miscalculation about Obama being "for the war" is well...you know the answer.

By the way, does Celine Deon know the Eagle's song "Desperado"? That really should be your team's theme song as opposed to that god-awful insurance jingle...





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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 04:58 AM
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15. your link is a bill passed TWO WEEKS ago. I never refered to it ... what a Hannity-like move by you
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 05:12 AM by wyldwolf
I referred to SCHIP. Get it? SCHIP. State Children’s Health Insurance Program. Go ahead... Google is your friend.

And pooooor Obama! Hoowinked into giving an anti-war speech, hid it after elected Senate, voted for every war bill... a fake anti-war candidate and everyone knows it.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:30 AM
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24. Another swing and a miss...
So Clinton "helped" on SCHIP...like voted for... wow. On the other points, like basically clinging to her husband's War On The Poor with "welfare reform", her invisibility in stepping in to stop it is evident.

As for your desperate attempt to trash Obama on his speech in 2002 (at the same time Clinton was parroting Bush) against the Iraq war, he also has voted to support the troops that she helped send into battle needlessly and carelessly. Is Obama supposed to turn on the troops like Bill Clinton turned on his wife and cheat them out of necessary protection?

So you hate Obama...I don't give a crap. I also will do all I can to make sure that Clinton is not the nominee, because I hate the idea of 4 more years of a Republican in the White House. I don't hate her. Pity is more like it.

I suppose anyone who doesn't drink your brand of Kool-Aid will be accused of being "Hannity-like"... :crazy:


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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 07:31 PM
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35. actually, it was a home run.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 01:28 AM
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12. I love it!
She's fighting back, just like I knew she would. Nice job Hill!
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 01:42 AM
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13. Yep - great job Hill - experience shows...
Saw her interview on Las Vegas One here - she was incredible - but the best part was the ASSUMED STARTING POINT THAT bush* is a horrible failure and embarassment at best - and then any debate starts from there!
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itcfish Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 07:25 AM
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18. Excellent
Ad. She used nothing but the truth. Very refresing.

:thumbsdown:

:dem:

:yourock:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 07:25 AM
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19. K&R!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 07:31 AM
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20. The GOP wants Hillary to be the candidate & it benefits her to receive their attacks.
BFEE helping pave the way to further the corporate agenda.
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CTD Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 08:38 AM
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21. BINGO. I wonder if Hillary requested the "attack".
Because nothing appears to refute the recent criticism of Hillary as GOP-lite as a well-timed attack from the White House.

How convenient.

Hillary is so deeply intertwined in the BFEE that I guess even a simple attack makes me wonder as to the circumstances behind it.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:26 AM
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23. Everything these guys do is a calculation
This tells me BushCo is a) persuaded that Hillary will be the nominee and b) worried about the demoralized state of their own base and using her to wake them up.

And Hillary helps them by doing a couple of things wrong here. Using the troops as a prop to score a political point never works for Democrats. Even though it has been mangled by BushCo, the military remains a GOP bastion, especially at the highest levels. They can always be called upon to refute whatever our candidates say about them, even when it is true. Also, saying the troops are "invisible" is not something they are likely to find inspiring. Second, her sarcastic rejoinder, "Apparently, I've struck a nerve," is more appropriate for the primary voter than it is for the general electorate. Was the goal to support the troops or play a political game and "strike a nerve"? It's a response that many people will find annoying and it's red meat for the Republican base, which is what the White House was after in the first place.
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:28 AM
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27. This was
the best Ad of this season so far.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:37 AM
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28. Time's Swampland Ana Maria Cox, formerly Wonkette, said it best: "She's their girl."
August 14, 2007 7:07
She's Their Girl

Posted by Ana Marie Cox

The White House calling out Hillary's new ad as "outrageous" and "audacious" plays so exactly in Clinton's hands that if I didn't know better, I'd assume the '08 campaign Karl's working on is hers.

http://time-blog.com/swampland/2007/08/shes_their_girl.html
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:40 AM
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29. Right, who'd ever think the idiot president would
think being called invisible to the troops was outrageous. It was a great ad, and the most brilliant Rovian strategy would be to get Democrats to think she's 'his girl'.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:03 PM
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33. EXACTLY!!!
I don't see how people DON'T see through this.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:37 AM
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32. This is more evidence the Repubs. want Hillary to be our nominee.
Rove spoke out about her a couple days ago and the WH is responding to her ad and you still don't think it's their way to insure she becomes our nominee? People are playing right into their hands! They WANT her to win on our side so they can destroy her in the general election! No other Dem. can energize THEIR base like she can!
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 07:36 PM
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36. She hit nothing. She is setting up strawman according to Roves' 2000 playbook
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