Are the final Maine results being held until after the WI primary?

[dansolo]

I thought that the precinct results were due by 2/15, and yet everywhere they still only show 80% reporting.

[madfloridian]

1. Kick for an answer.

I think it is past time to hear the final results.

[maxanne]

21. another kick n/t

[maxanne]

2. this is so

yesterdays news, dude. It doesn't matter if the counting of Maine's largest city wasn't finished, when they declared Kerry the winnah. The world has moved on.

[BootinUp]

11. LOL

*hears sounds of sheep being herded*

[Freddie Stubbs]

3. If you are that curious

why don't you call the Maine Democratic Party and ask them?

http://yp.yahoo.com/py/ypMap.py?Pyt=Typ&tuid=14152602&ck=3710086800&tab=B2C&tcat=95766176&city=Augusta&state=ME&uzip=04330&country=us&msa=0000&cs=4&ed=F.QJia1o2TxIBwfBfp_sQ2olY5Hb5IaDSYh1MBTnjFc0&stat=:pos:0:regular:regT:2:fbT:0

[maxanne]

5. is it wrong

to expect the results to be made public, Freddie?

[Freddie Stubbs]

8. Nothing wrong at all

I'm sure that they will be happy to answer your questions.

[maxanne]

10. don't you think

they should be made PUBLIC without our asking, Freddie? Shouldn't they be shouted from the rooftops, in fact? Why should we have to beg for them?

[Freddie Stubbs]

The results from local parties weren't even due to the state

until yesterday. I'm sure if you ask them aobut it, they can let you know when the complete results will be available. That will probably be more productive than complaining about it on an Internet message board.

[maxanne]

14. I'm glad

the secrecy around the Maine count doesn't trouble you, Freddie. I like my elections out in the air, where everyone can see the results, personally. I've never thought that keeping election results secret was a cornerstone of democracy.

Nice of you to assume I just sit around complaining though. Thanks!

[Freddie Stubbs]

15. This may is a case for Scooby Doo and the gang

They will get to the bottom of this. Personally, I think that old man Caruthers who owns the haunted amusement park may be behind this.

[madfloridian]

20. I am surprised at such a casual attitude about the counting of votes.

I really am.

[Freddie Stubbs]

24. But seriously

I think that I am going to call the Maine Democratic Party HQ tomorrow. My curiosity is getting the better of me.

[madfloridian]

37. I already did, and did not get anyone to answer.

I think that is the one where a lady took the ballots home, left them on the table for her dog to guard them. LOL Is that any way to run a democracy?

[Freddie Stubbs]

39. I just spoke with Maine Democratic HQ on the phone

Here is what is going on:

Results from 97% of towns has been tabualted. This is not reflected by the website becsue it has not done in-house. The person or company who is contracted to do this is not updating it when they are supposed to, the the party Chairwoman is not very happy with this.

They are still wiating for results for Aroostook County, which is very rural. Because this are is so sparsely populated, the results from there are not expected to change the results very much.

The current delegate percentages that will be going to the state convention are:

Kerry: 44%

Dean: 28%

Kucinich: 14%

Edwards: 8%

Clark: 4%

[Anwen]

16. Is it not relevant to question primary election results

in a primary election discussion forum?

Or should we just forget about the Maine results. Sheesh.

[stickdog]

4. Why don't you ask the folks who promised the results?

STAFF CONTACTS

Chair: Dottie Melanson
Executive Director: Aymie Walshe


Maine Democratic Party- Main Office
P O Box 5258
Augusta, Maine 04332
Office: 12 Spruce Street, Augusta
Hours: 9 - 5, Monday to Friday
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
EMAIL: [e-mail]

[pezcore64]

6. welp

i just shot them an e-mail.

EDIT:

I suggest everyone do it, regardless of who you back. Dont let the folks in maine disprove 'every vote counts'.

[Anwen]

7. Maybe it's because I'm a newbie to politics...

but this seems outrageously inept. Is this normal? What good reason would there be to have 20% of the precincts not reporting?

[maxanne]

9. psssst

*whispers* to keep the real results a secret, perhaps? :shrug:

[Anwen]

12. My thoughts exactly.

Why doesn't the media report this? Why don't people seem to care? My faith in democracy is hanging by a thread these days.

[NashVegas]

13. Here's Their Email Addy

[e-mail]

I sent a note this morning to ask.. no response yet.

[Anwen]

17. Thanks for the email addy

I'm writing them a message too. Hopefully we will get some answers soon.

[Progress]

23. Thanks!

I'll e-mail them too!

[e-mail]

[maxanne]

31. thanks, Crisco

I sent 'em an email, too.

Inquiring minds want to know.

[hellhathnofury]

18. hmmm....

(tosses ballot boxes into swamp)

Nothing to see here, move along.

[maxanne]

19. Portland is on the coast

so those ballot boxes can be hucked right into the ocean!!

[Damn Ann the Man]

22. lol...

Harsh

[hellhathnofury]

30. They were heavy,

sorry for the delay, stealing votes takes time.

[Skip Intro]

25. Another kick - you know what I think...

I'll just say it. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, what the hell. I'll look a litte stupid or angry or desperate, but at least it won't be like I have been in charge of counting the votes in Maine or something.

I think this whole thing reeks, and there's only one reason for it.

I think the final numbers were known by the 9th at the latest, the computer failures and bla bla bla long now past relevance as valid excuses for this delay.

"More people voted than we expected..." Translation - "we can't count that high" - ???!!! Come on.

I think Dean did much better in the final numbers than the "machine" wants to let out just yet, for fear he'll sap some momentum from the anointed.

I believe the numbers were withheld purposely to achieve the effect of muting any Dean momentum, and padding Kerry's perceived momentum - in order to have VA and TN turn out as ordained, as well as NV and WI evidently.

That's what my gut tells me, anyway.

Imagine the whole thing in terms of Florida 2000, and katherine harris is telling you to be patient, and not to worry that the vote was over a week ago, 'cuz her "big yellow dog" was guarding the ballots on the kitchen table (yes, that really came out of Maine).

Damn, who needs rigged voting machines when this kind of thing is acceptable?

(hopefully, this'll keep this thread kicked for a while)

[maxanne]

26. it reeks

nu_duer. Reeks to high heaven.

kick

[stickdog]

27. Not to mention Kucinich's strength there as well!

Why doesn't anyone in the Kucinich campaign care about this travesty?

[Anwen]

33. Yeah, Kucinich really got shafted.

Kucinich - the long shot - came in THIRD. But does he get any coverage he deserves on the major networks? Not even for a minute. The stories ran like this: "Kerry wins BIG BIG BIG 1st place!! Dean is FINISHED with a 2nd place!! And behind them, Kucinich-Edwards-Sharpton."

I only wish I was exaggerating.

It seems like his campaign would be raising hell to get those final results.

[stickdog]

35. You would think ... (nt)

[revcarol]

28. Another day later...STILL NUTHIN'

and today is the Wisconsin primary!!

How many states' primaries do they have to skew before we get the results?

[maxanne]

29. as many

as we let 'em, revcarol. Time to sharpen the guillotines!

[bornskeptic]

32. OK, time for a new conspiracy theory.

Welcome to the Home Page of the Maine Democratic Party. We hope you find this site to be a useful way to keep in contact and stay involved in Maine Democratic Politics.

--Dorothy Melanson
Chair, Maine Democratic Party

Caucus Results Are in! Record Turnout at Feb. 8th Democratic Caucuses

Votes: % of vote: Delegates:
Clark: 564 4 106
Dean: 3960 26 729
Edwards: 1187 8 193
Kerry: 6842 45 1304
Kucinich: 2383 16 381
Lieberman: 6 0 0
Sharpton: 26 0 4
Uncommited: 191 1 34
Total: 15158 100% 2753

http://www.mainedems.org/

edited for spelling

[maxanne]

34. you missed a piece

bornskeptic:

"12:00, February 9th with 80% of the caucus sites reporting."

The results you posted are the old, incomplete ones.

don we now our festive tinfoil....:tinfoilhat: fa la la la la la la la la

[stickdog]

36. Don't let that 100% fool you. It's just the sum of the percentages.

Only 80% of the precincts were included in that total!

[maxanne]

38. kick

to get the email address out there for folks to use.

:kick:

[Anwen]

40. Had anybody heard anything new re: Maine?

Another day has passed. So where are the results?

[in_cog_ni_to]

41. Well now,

they wouldn't want Dean and Kucinich to look better than Edwards now, would they? If Maine shows Dean in 2nd, Kucinich in 3rd and Edwards in 4th....wouldn't look good for John E. They need to make sure it doesn't hit the air waves until AFTER the Wisconsin Primary is over. Wouldn't want to give the Dean and Kucinich supporters any hope. :eyes: