Ralph is

[Bucky]

Test yourself on the Ralph-0-Meter:

{ 8 ------ 7 ------- 6 -------- 5 ---------- 4 --------- 3 -------- 2 ---- 1 }
God -- my guy -- maybe -- safetynet -- iconoclast -- ex-hero -- fraud -- evil

(results lower than 1 or greater than 8 are not valid; please stay on the scale and no smartasses reply "zero" or "100")

[Bucky]

1. I forgot to add; it's okay if below you want to explain, or offer a 4.5 or

somehow otherwise nuance your answer. Personally I like Ralph I don't want my rather low grade on his political career to be my last judgment on Ralph Nader as a citizen

[HuskerDem]

8. I voted a 3 but would put his actual rating at 1.4

Definately a fraud, sliding quickly towards evil incarnate.

[Nadienne]

2. Wouldn't a GOP stooge

Try to swing moderate Democrats to vote for Republicans? Liberal Democrats have fewer viable options...

[Bucky]

4. If the only Stooge, yes. But if a 2-front attack, he's the left flank

Any vote taken from the Dems is good for the Republicans. Lefties who love Ralph aren't going to go to the Republicans, but if Rove can get their votes out of the Democratic column it's still a net plus for their side.

[The Magistrate]

6. Not At All, Ma'am

A stooge would operate as an agent provocatuer, to excite the most radical elements into desperate adventures that would splinter the forces opposing reaction into competing groups, that would have difficulty uniting in a bloc against the worst elements of reaction. This is the standard method, familiar to any student of the subject. The most vehement are always the most suspect, from any chekist's point of view....

"Can't nobody here play this game?"

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[Nadienne]

12. Thank you kindly

I like your definition, especially because there is a candidate who may be poised to do just that...

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0405/barrett.php

The first paragraph of which reads:

Roger Stone, the longtime Republican dirty-tricks operative who led the mob that shut down the Miami-Dade County recount and helped make George W. Bush president in 2000, is financing, staffing, and orchestrating the presidential campaign of Reverend Al Sharpton.

...and...

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/04/1656216

[mdmc]

3. We have two big parties

evil - evil, and lesser of two evils...
Fear me for choosing good!
I have friends that won't support a candidate that believes that one should be arrested for smoking pot. Period.

They don't care about politics. They thought Clinton was a phony. They know that Bush is a phony. You think that they will vote for Kerry (or Gore, or Dean)? What a joke.

Worse still, they live in Florida. They are proud to vote for Nader. They tell me (I'm a liberal, active Dem) that they won't vote in 2004 unless an criminal justice advocate runs.

Sorry dems... We have to work hard at courting dems to vote democratic; We waste too much time trying to court pure greens back into the lesser of two evils. We should work on getting the half of USA voters that don't vote to vote dem. Dean has started this - ya think Kerry can continue it?

ps - I'll be voting pro criminal justice reform... I'm not in a contested state.

[HuskerDem]

5. Your friends may prefer an insular circle jerk of principled puffery and

self satisfaction. Screw 'em. I'm certainly not going to kiss their ass.

[mdmc]

9. Don't kiss their asses

They won't change. Its a waste of time. I gave up on them and work to get non voters to the polls. This is a better use of time.

What Dems will have to accept is that Greens can get non voters to the polls. Greens are on the grow.

Our party (the Dems) have been holed up as the lesser of two evils. Not very motivating.

My friends may not be Democrats, but they vote. They are less of the problem then the half of Americans that DON'T vote.

[HuskerDem]

11. I don't consider them to be a problem

I consider them delusional and inconsequential (not greens per se, greens who refuse to understand that tacitly endorsing republicans does nothing to help the green cause.)

The environment is always in my top 3 when selecting my vote and/or support.

[rucky]

7. 3.5

He's still a relevant role model - on what not to do.

[mdmc]

10. I'm n contact with naderexplore04

and I always respond to their emails with "Please wait for Kucinich before deciding to run" in the subject line.

Kucinich is god... I support H Dean, due to his electability, lol.

[gyopsy]

13. I can't vote for Ralph...

I think we all owe him some debt for what he has done for the environment in the past, but he is going to ram us all into the ground if too many people vote for him again in 2004. What on god's green earth is that guy trying to prove?

[corporatewhore]

14. if my guy dont win than david cobb(the green) gets my vote