Daddy Dearest: Rudy Giuliani's Daughter is Supporting BARACK OBAMA

[DinahMoeHum]

:rofl::popcorn::rofl:

http://www.slate.com/id/2171730/

http://www.slate.com/id/2171738/

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There's one vote that Rudy Giuliani definitely can't count on in his 2008 presidential bid: his own daughter's. According to the 17-year-old Caroline Giuliani's Facebook profile, she's supporting Barack Obama.

On her profile, she designates her political views as "liberal" and—until this morning—proclaimed her membership in the Facebook group "Barack Obama (One Million Strong for Barack)." According to her profile, she withdrew from the Obama group at 6 a.m. Monday, after Slate sent her an inquiry about it.
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It's not news that Rudy and his two children, Caroline and her 21-year-old brother Andrew, have a rocky relationship. Caroline and Andrew are the children of Donna Hanover, Rudy's second wife. In March, Andrew, who is a junior at Duke, told the New York Times that he and his father had been estranged for some time, and he has spoken candidly about his objections to Giuliani's marriage to Judith Nathan. And after the wedding, the Times reported, Giuliani also stopped attending Caroline's high-school events. Though he went to her high-school graduation, he left without speaking to her and did not join in the post-graduation family celebration, according to the New York Daily News.

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[NoodleBoy]

1. sorry... this strikes me as out of bounds.

[truebrit71]

2. Why? There are 'rules' to follow?

I don't think so.

[DinahMoeHum]

3. The fact that Rudy's OWN CHILDREN will not support his POTUS bid

says volumes.

:P

[The Count]

4. Whose? The family values party? Il Duce? Rudy certainly was lose with the bounds

when encouraging NYPD in its abuses

[calimary]

9. Not at all. The kids have made their opinions known, and those opinions

I think are significant. They go to what kind of man this schmuck is, which is pretty damned important in sizing up his character as potential presidential material. It does not speak well of him in the way he regards family issues, commitment issues, hypocrisy issues, etc., how he treated his ex-wife (their mother), and more. I'm further disgusted to read about his conduct after his daughter graduated. Didn't speak to her - on one of the biggest days of her life? Didn't participate in any family things afterwards, concluding a major milestone in her education and her growing toward adulthood? And he wasn't there - as HER FATHER??? His idea of "family values"? While the daughter is not quite "of age," she's 17 so she's close, and her brother, Andrew, certainly is already. I find what they have to say about their peckant, self-absorbed dad to be MOST revealing and informative in terms of what kind of man he is. If he freezes out his own daughter after her graduation ceremony, how would you expect him to work with people not in absolute lockstep with him - like Democrats of all stripes, contrarians within his own party, AND oppositional interests in other countries? HEAVEN FORBID. It tells me that not only do I oppose and distrust him, I just do NOT like the guy - AT ALL. I say that as a liberal Democrat, of course, but also as a wife and a mom, AND a daughter, too, for that matter.

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27. I wouldn't give much credibility to the political musings...

of a 17 year old posting on "Facebook".

Funny?... Embarrassing? Definitely,... she also probably likes him because she think he's cute in a Will Smith sort of way (or some other giggly teenage girls crap).

[calimary]

31. On the other hand...

it could also be that she and her brother Andrew, being the children of a spotlight-hog and a big-name politician (who very likely brought a lot of that home in multiple ways, I'd suspect she and Andrew might be more politically aware and savvy than we give them credit for. Besides, she was one of the kids we heard about who were still living in the mayor's mansion with their mother when daddy announced on the public airwaves that he was getting a divorce (from their mother - BEFORE he bothered to tell her in private) and then made a public stink out of wanting to bring his strumpet to live with him in the same house - WHILE his soon-to-be-ex AND his kids were still living there. I'd bet anything that both rudy's kids were clearly aware that something was up, and something rather odiferous at that. When my dad carried on like that, even when I was in grade school and generally speaking pretty naive and out-of-it, I could tell something was awfully fishy (WHY is that lady always around? And WHY is she smiling at my dad like that? And where's HER husband?).

I'd guess a kid whose parent or parents are steeped in politics are pretty aware of politics themselves. Especially by the time they're in their late teens. It's certainly possible that she's a vapid "valley girl" type, of course. But in this case, I don't think so.

[pettypace]

32. giggly teenage girl?

She's attending Harvard for undergrad next year.

Try again.

[Ellen Forradalom]

33. Giggly teenage girl crap?

At that age I was in college, living on my own and supporting myself. She's a young woman now, not pubescent child.

[KaptBunnyPants]

11. Reporting the opposition of Guiliani's own daughter to his campaign is out of bounds?

How?

[Hissyspit]

14. Hunh?

[Hippo_Tron]

22. It's not embarassing to the daughter, it's embarassing to the candidate

When people here started posting pictures of Julia Corker partying like all other college kids do, I was the first to say that it should be out of bounds because the kids aren't running for office and it hurts them.

This doesn't hurt his daughter. Frankly it's just hilarious.

[AlCzervik]

25. "Out of bounds" that it was reported? I think not, it's news when a candidates daughter

does not support her own father, it's a good indicator of what an asshat Rudy is.

[ronnykmarshall]

5. Priceless!

:rofl:

[Vinca]

6. If Rudy's the nominee, it's not going to be pretty.

I'm betting the former wife (Donna, not the first one)joins up with the firefighters tailing him around the country and the estranged kids will call him out. I love it that the daughter supports Obama!

[soleft]

7. Has anyone estranged from their own kids ever won a high office?

Seeing as a lot of people who vote republican do so because of the whole patriarchal father figure thing - i see this as being most damaging.

[TreasonousBastard]

8. Reagan. (but Giuliani's no Reagan) n/t

[Hippo_Tron]

23. True but he likes to pretend he is

[Freddie Stubbs]

18. Grover Cleveland

[antiimperialist]

10. Shouldn't this be the top story in all newspapers?

If Chelsea Clinton supported Giuliani, you bet it would be the top headline on CNN, Fox, WaPo, etc.
It must be the first time in the history of American politics that the son or daughter of a major candidate supports a major rival.

[Hippo_Tron]

24. It's a facebook profile which isn't enough for a lead story

If she went on stage at an Obama event, it would be all over the place.

[Ian David]

12. She is NOT....... one of his... FANS!!!! n/t

[ronnykmarshall]

20. I can just see La Rudy ...

in drag as Joan Crawford ...

Why can't you give me the RESPECT that I'm entitled tooooo? Why can't treat me as I would be expected to treated by some STRANGER ON THE STREETS????

[Ian David]

21. Any stranger in the streets of any city other than New York...

so long as that stranger isn't a fireman.

[tridim]

13. Hope she doesn't get whacked by one of Rudi's mafia pals. nt

[Imagevision]

15. But, But, what will Blitzer, Dobbs or mathews say about this non-new item??

I must agree with Giuliani's daughter, perhaps he should have done more listening??

[robinlynne]

16. That is great!

[Ratty]

17. I always thought that would be a tough situation

What comes first, political beliefs or family? If I were in this situation I imagine I would support my parent or sibling as much as I was able to. That would involve standing next to them at speeches and appearances and keeping my mouth shut. Other than that, I would keep my head down and try not to be noticed. I don't think I could actively work on their campaign.

I used to think this was what was going on with Mary Cheney--tough, tough situation to be in. Not anymore of course. I don't believe I could throw myself into my father's campaign as actively and aggressively as she's done unless I believed in what he stood for.

[DeSwiss]

19. If you want to see where the seeds of this dissention were planted.....

....you need look no further than Judi Ann Stish, the new Mrs. Giuliani.

Excerpt from the Salon article "Giuliani's Princess Bride":

"Yes, the children were upset," recalls a close confidant of the Giuliani kids, who is not referring simply to the unraveling of their parents' marriage. Far worse "was an application for Dad to allow Mrs. Nathan into Gracie Mansion. That kind of thing was very disconcerting to everyone." In the midst of all this family strife came 9/11: the deaths, the turmoil, the necessary absences and preoccupations of the Giuliani children's father. Judith tried valiantly to fill this vacuum: "When Andrew had a football game in New Jersey, say, and Rudy would have to appear on ABC, it would be Judith who'd be the one pushing to make sure the schedule was set up so he could go to Andrew's game, and I know this for a fact," says one former aide who in other respects can be critical of Judith.

"Caroline—she wouldn't want her to miss dinner with her father, so Judith made sure his schedule would accommodate that dinner." A pause. "She could be a bitch to everybody else but not to his kids." There were other efforts at reaching out. Soon after the Twin Towers fell, Judith volunteered at the Family Assistance Center, on Pier 94. When Paul O'Neill of the Yankees came by, Judith got the star right fielder to sign a ball, which she then gave to the teenage Andrew, "as a way of making peace," says Manny Papir, a former Giuliani deputy chief of staff. None of Judith's efforts, however, proved to be of much consequence—and some, like her recent Christmas gifts of Bibles to the Giuliani kids, have backfired, I am told.

According to a number of Giuliani's good friends, the former mayor insists on Judith's presence at events for his offspring—and when this demand is thwarted, he doesn't attend. He was not present, they say, at Andrew's graduation from St. Joseph Regional High School in New Jersey. Now 21 and a Duke University junior, the son tells friends he doesn't speak to Rudy, according to one of his classmates—this at a time when his father is desperate to attract conservative, family-values backing. Just recently, after explaining to The New York Times that he would not help his father campaign for the presidential nomination, Andrew cited, among other issues, his stepmother, with whom, he said, "there's obviously a little problem."

"Andrew was really siding with his sister, Caroline, here," says a source friendly to Giuliani. "Caroline is silent, but she was very traumatized by the divorce." Two sources who know the family well tell me that Rudy is more attentive to Whitney than he is to his own children. At Caroline's recent graduation, from New York's Trinity School, Rudy and Judith sat in the last row of the balcony and left 10 minutes before the two-hour ceremony ended.

*** - Is it possible that Rudy's crew would be even too dysfunctional for a Repuke family???

- K&R!

[draft_mario_cuomo]

26. His son is not supporting Ghouliani either. What does this tell you about Ghoul's "family values"?

[DinahMoeHum]

28. FLASH !! Caroline is now FLIP-FLOPPING. . .

Link:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070806/ap_on_el_pr/giuliani_daughter

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[ronnykmarshall]

29. Hmmmm?

Wonder who got to her.

[Ethelk2044]

30. Besides being a horrible pick for Prez, Rudy is a TERRIBLE FATHER!

If your own children don't like you (don't blame it on teenage or young adult angst) due to his in your face cheating on their mother and divorcing her to be with his present ditz ball, why the hell would any reasonable person support him for Prez. Oh, I guess you terrible parents out there and people who just lack basic common sense! :puke:

[tilsammans]

34. Very interesting . . .

...how Caroline uses her mother's last name, Hanover, as her last name -- rather than going by the name Giuliani.

[yurbud]

35. vote this up on Digg.com so general audience sees it LINK

http://digg.com/politics/Guiliani_s_Own_Daughter_Shows_Support_for_Obama_on_Facebook