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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 12:01 PM
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Dean Passes Edwards in Latest Zogby Poll in Wisconsin
http://realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/polls_State_Polls_04.html#wi

Good news to me. I was worried that he wouldn't get second, but it seems a lot of the undecided voters who choose to vote based on ideology, not incorrectly perceived electability issues, are going to cast their lot for Dean.

Continued seconds would put Dean in a good position going into the March 2nd primaries, and hopefully, the Kerry (bimbo)story will air in the mainstream, pointing out to some of the easily knocked off, non-core Kerry supporters, his vulnerabilities. You can believe it will when the others withdraw from the race.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 12:08 PM
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1. That's good for Dean. But Edwards usually finishes above his poll #s
The pattern with Edwards seems to be to do extremely well with late-breakers. His finishing numbers almost always exceed his opinion poll numbers. With Dean and the late General the opposite has been the case.

I'd sure like to see someone challenging Kerry up thru Super Tuesday, however. If the bimb finally erupts, we'll need the alternative. If the bimb holds quiet as Vesuvius, Kerry still gets to profit from a genuine win rather than a default cause everyone else just gave up.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 12:23 PM
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10. So does Dean. (nt)
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 12:09 PM
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2. That poll includes leaners, I think.
Not sure.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 12:16 PM
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7. Yes it includes leaners
Otherwise it would be 14% undecided. It is very close between Dean and Edwards, but the next twenty four hours will decide who can come out ahead


Good luck to all
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 12:10 PM
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3. What is amazing in this Poll: Kerry's Massachusetts, Majority is for DEAN
Absolutely amazing. Those who know him best like Dean BETTER.

Just goes to show ya...
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 12:12 PM
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4. Those numbers were from November...
before Dean's gaffes and fumbles.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 12:24 PM
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 01:38 PM
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14. Excuse me kat
look at the dates on the Mass. poll--it clearly says 11, and my elementary teacher taught me that 11 = November, when considering months.
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 12:36 PM
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12. Or
More accurately before the DLC media wrecking ball that has slammed Dean's campaign.

I wish you guys would stop pretending the media had nothing to do with bringing Dean down. You don't have to deny this truth, to support Kerry you know!

I do think if they started attacking Kerry in the same manner, just like the Clark supporters eventually saw, and sympathized, you would probably start to realize it is going on, but I doubt you will have the opportunity, as Kerry is, and has been the media's choice since Dean mentioned breaking up the media.

Try to look at the big-picture, and I think you might open your eyes to the media seeing Dean as a threat to their control over our population. Those who run the major news networks are a nefarious manipulative bunch, know that.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 12:19 PM
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8. Mass Poll Outdated
The Mass Poll was taken in November. It is very unlikely that those numbers still crunch. and it was a very narrow lead within the margin of error in November. Since he tanked in states he led with double digits I guess the current Mass picture is obvious. Mass DOESN'T like Dean Better
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 12:13 PM
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5. Not entirely unexpected.
Dean has more delegates.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 12:15 PM
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6. Edwards finishes ahead because the media love him.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 12:23 PM
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 12:39 PM
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13. Dates
Yes, the dates are important, and they have ignored Sharpton and Kucinich, much like the rest of the media. But the most recent poll, the Zogby at the top, is the 13th thru 15th, and the trend of the undecideds is toward Dean.

The media does love Edwards, even though he still trails in delegates, he's always mentioned with Kerry, and Dean typically and consistently is ignored, as if he's already gone. Further proof of media bias, and negativity toward Dean.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 01:44 PM
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15. "and hopefully, the Kerry (bimbo) story will air in the mainstream. . ."
Do you really hope that? That the right wing echo machine will lie and and push until its lie is out in the mainstream media?

BTW, she denied it.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040216/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_polier_statements
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 09:39 PM
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16. Although Kerry is ahead, the numbers for the rest
are all over the place, even within a single state. :shrug:

I wonder if DK's and Sharpton's supporters are lumped together as "undecided."
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