HA ha ha! In your GRILL, Reich-Wing Fascist Hillbillies with Badges! (Asheville Flag)

[Sonicmedusa]

(No offense to REAL hillbillies)


Mountain Xpress
Duncan regrets flag-desecration incident, is investigating
by David Forbes on 07/30/2007

Buncombe County Sheriff Van Duncan told the Xpress this afternoon that he regrets the turn of events surrounding the July 25 arrests of activists Mark and Deborah Kuhn on flag-desecration charges. Meanwhile, Xpress has learned the flag law was declared unconstitutional in a 1971 N.C. district court ruling.

“I regret that it happened this way — we’re not trying to enforce that statute,” Duncan said. “We had internal affairs investigators in the neighborhood today. I’ve met with the Kuhns personally. We’re talking to the District Attorney, we’re talking to their attorney and we’re trying to get this resolved.”

“We would normally not have handled the situation that way,” Duncan said. “We’re looking into it right now and trying to see how we can proceed to make sure an incident like this doesn’t happen again.”

Meanwhile, today Xpress learned that, in addition to U.S. Supreme Court decisions ruling that political uses of the flag are protected speech, North Carolina’s statute was declared unconstitutional in a 1971 ruling by the District Court of Western North Carolina. “Enacted during a period of national chauvinistic fervor, it is an uncommonly bad statute,” Circuit Judge James Craven Jr. wrote in the ruling. “Despite our respect, and indeed love, for these symbols of state and nation, we are compelled to hold the statute unconstitutional.”
http://www.mountainx.com/news/2007/dunc … estigating


Yet the local “News” rag still advocates people turning in their neighbors to the Sheriffs dept:

Asheville Citizen Times

"The law says
State law on desecration of the U.S. flag
It shall be unlawful for any person willfully and knowingly to cast contempt upon any flag of the United States or upon any flag of North Carolina by public acts of physical contact including, but not limited to, mutilation, defiling, defacing or trampling. Any person violating this section shall be deemed guilty of a Class 2 misdemeanor.

• To report flag desecrations, people can call the Buncombe County Sheriff’s Office at 255-5000."

http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200770725118

2/3 down the page, R side.



It is still there nearly 6 hours after I called the editor of the paper who stated he wasn’t aware it was there, and would have it removed at once.

[PDJane]

1. One of the defining characteristics of fascism, eom...

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. Do you hear that whirring sound?

That's my great-uncle, Foster A. Sondley, spinning in his grave.

[mitchtv]

3. Q:to see how we can proceed to make sure an incident like this doesn’t happen again.”

A: Dismissal of employee

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

4. Yup.

There is a lot more to the story of Ossifer Scarbourough than has been reported. Yet. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if a little digging into the guy discovers interesting things.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

6. Q part deux: to see how we can ... make sure ... this doesn’t happen again.”

B. Substantial cash settlement.

Edit: and I don't mean a secret one, either. Put it on the front page for all to see, with the proceeds to go to the organizations of the victims' choice - ACLU, etc.

Also to go on the front page: the picture of * autographing the flag, and the picture of him walking on it last 9/11. Someone dig those up, please.

I thought Nifong was unique in NC. I can see I was wrong.

[bedpanartist]

5. no offense taken, but...

hillbilly is a very classist term meant to denigrate an entire population in order for industrialists to make way for exploitation of the land and people of Appalachia.

Its legacy can be seen even today in mountaintop removal.

Once the Democratic party and my beloved lefties can learn to stop the hatred and denigration of poor working class white folks, the electoral landslides in our favor begin.

I'm no angel either. Raised in Eastern, Kentucky, I've had a love/hate relationship with my hillbilly heritage. The older I get though, I realize how truly lucky I am to have grown up in a unique culture such as mine.

[Sonicmedusa]

7. Understood.

That is why I said "No offense to REAL hillbillies".


I live in the Appalachians and love the people, their culture and land more then you know. Trust me, they proudly call themselves hillbillies.

[bedpanartist]

8. me too!

I just like seeing Hillbilly used as a fantastical positive reference. Sadly though, it's used as a term to demonize.

Hell, people would pay big money to see what I can for free on Sunday afternoons: Red Allen's boy Ronnie leading the bluegrass jam at the Stockyards Inn every Sunday afternoon at the Stockyards Inn in Dayton, Ohio - the urban Appalachian Babylon of the United States.

[Sonicmedusa]

14. Me too!

And thanks for the reminder.

The musicians I can hear even at small backyard parties are better then the musicians that are raking in the big $ in commercial crap.

[tekisui]

9. Three more DISTRESS flags on same road.

On Brevard Rd., here in Asheville, three neighbors have hung inverted US flags in a show of support. Also a tombstone reading "RIP Habeas Corpus" and a poster of W labeled LIAR are on display. The Kuhn's have replaced their flag with a banner of John Lennon flashing the peace sign.

I heard that the Kuhns are not going to sue IF the deputy is fired.

[Sonicmedusa]

10. I would like to see Radford, the National Guard who put Scarborough up to this thuggery

Get his chops busted by HIS superior officer as well.

[Sonicmedusa]

12. Here are some photos:

http://community.livejournal.com/distressflag/

[TlalocW]

11. Why is it that I can remember the early 90s

When Poppy Bush was ignoring every problem in the country so he could declare himself the anti-flag burning president, and the Supreme Court smacking him down, but law enforcement officers can't? This isn't new. Every few years there's another story of someone being arrested for flag desecration. It's incredibly legal to do whatever you want to a flag - the Supreme Court said so. That means it trumps whatever redneck statute put into a state's law book that purports to say otherwise.

TlalocW

[Sonicmedusa]

13. It was more then flag desecration

By the accounts of the couple and of an independent witness, the sheriffs deputy kicked the door of the Kuhn's (AFTER they complied with his order to remove the flag), busted the window of the residence to reach in and unlock the deadbolt before assaulting the residents of the home.

The deputy claims otherwise.

Here is the story:
http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200770725118

[ProudDad]

15. I'm sending the publisher, etc. an email

subject: Your newspaper's call for vigilantism

"You should check out your website. You have a box on the front page that seems to be encouraging people to snitch on their neighbors if they see them violating a "flag desecration law" that was declared UNCONSTITUTIONAL in 1971!!!

"Xpress learned that, in addition to U.S. Supreme Court decisions ruling that political uses of the flag are protected speech, North Carolina’s statute was declared unconstitutional in a 1971 ruling by the District Court of Western North Carolina. “Enacted during a period of national chauvinistic fervor, it is an uncommonly bad statute,” Circuit Judge James Craven Jr. wrote in the ruling. “Despite our respect, and indeed love, for these symbols of state and nation, we are compelled to hold the statute unconstitutional.”

(You should read your competition: http://www.mountainx.com/news/2007/dunc)

And yet YOUR newspaper is urging people to break the law. You are on shaky ground there and should remove that offensive call for vigilantism immediately...before someone sues you.

You are also becoming the laughing stock of the nation..."


I'm sending it to the following individuals:

Publisher
Jeffrey P. Green
President & Publisher
828-232-5933
[e-mail]

Virgil L. Smith
Chairman
828-232-5933
[e-mail]

Pamela Weaver
Executive Assistant / Community Affairs Manager
828-232-5934
[e-mail]


Pooof! There it went...

[ProudDad]

16. You think the freepers are all complaining

about the "dirty Liberals" planting that rogue deputy in the Sheriff's office? :evilgrin: