(Oregon Magazine):Bill sicked McAuliff on Kerry. DLC needs to stop this

[tobius]

from continuing.



Feb. 04

Once again Matt Drudge has run across a Democrat shocker.  Once more, the mainstream media seems to be ignoring  it.  Will this one turn out to be as true as the Monica Lewinsky story?  If it does, all hell is going to break loose inside the Democratic Party, and once again proof of  Leftwing media bias will emerge..  First the charges.
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Kerry aides have blamed the charges on Republicans, calling them part of a dirty tricks campaign, but others have suggested that it is more likely that the information came from Bill and Hillary Clinton.  The Clintons have their man, Terry McAuliff, running the Democratic National Committee, and it has been widely reported by political insiders that this is part of a manipulation process designed to guarantee a Democrat loss to Bush in 2004 so that Hillary can run for the presidency in 2008.

http://oregonmag.com/KerryScandal.htm
It is certain that the networks and America’s large news organizations, including the press services and newspapers like the New York Times and the Washington Post, have been suppressing this story, defending such suppression on the basis that there is no “smoking gun.”
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Yes, this is the same Joe Conason who in the Summer of 1992 wrote a Spy magazine cover story entitled "1,000 REASONS NOT TO VOTE FOR GEORGE BUSH".

Consaon's reason #1?

"He cheats on his wife."
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Under the present world circumstances, we need no more philanderers in the White House.  There is serious business before us, and this sort of thing is a distraction best left for times when we have time for such foolishness.  Senator Kerry had better be telling the truth about all this.  If he isn’t, then the Clintons should get their way, here, and another Democrat should get the nomination.

[w13rd0]

1. Dude, I'm no Kerry fan...

...but that site is so OBVIOUSLY biased it's ridiculous to post it here.

[Tinoire]

2. I heard this theory in medium high Democratic circles over 6 months ago

I didn't like it then and I don't like it now. If it ever turns out to be true, that will be it. And I mean IT. Because there is no way my mind can accept the possibility of such a monstrosity.

[Adjoran]

3. McAuliffe has done an awful job

but it makes little sense to lay this on him. As DNC Chairman, such a story at this late date in the primaries can in no way help his reputation. It's bad for all Democratic candidates everywhere. Maybe not fatal, but bad.

The Lehane theory makes more sense. He had an axe to grind with Kerry, who fired him, and vetted Kerry for Gore as a potential VP.

The reporters didn't leak the Clark statement from an off the record conversation. If they did, no one would ever trust them again. It had to be someone else there, and Lehane was.

That's not proof in itself, of course, but it is reasonable suspicion.

[OKNancy]

4. Always a good idea to check the source

This is a right-wing site, for what it's worth.

Check out their editorial page. Look at the links they provide and their contributors. ( lower right side).
http://oregonmag.com/JanusEd.htm

[AnnitaR]

5. Yep, Bill and Hill rule the Universe!

Nothing happens unless they are the ones behind it!

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

[mikehiggins]

6. This is a bunch of rightwing assassins talking among themselves

hoping to get somebody else to listen. How Conason's name wound up in that mish-mash of quotes is a mystery to me. I read the Oregonian article referenced and it merely decries the Democrats and weeps over how poorly Packwood and Gingrich and BushOne were treated over this kind of thing.

They link to an article in some Brit rag that claims Ms. Polier gave a TV interview to a "network" that is sitting on it (possibly waiting for sweeps week?).

Proof offered? None.

Does that suggest there is none? Probably.

Have I just wasted some precious moments out of my life even thinking about this? Definitely.

<edited for spelling. "prood" is not an english word>

[jazzsammich]

12. prood

...but it should be!

problem is, everyone'll think you're saying "prude".

oh well.

--jim k.

"prood, yeah, prood is the bottom line for everyone" --not paul simon

[bornskeptic]

7. For those unfamiliar with the Oregon Magazine

this is from the editorial page.

I am not saying that all Oregon mainstream journalists are liars. I am saying some of them are, and the rest are simply sheep who spout the liberal line automatically, without ever realizing that they misinform the public every time they open their mouths. When their leaders run across poll results which indicate a public attitude that does not serve the interests of the Left, that information fails to make the evening news. They go to work to turn their broadcasts into venues which may sway the public in the direction they – being compassionate liberal elitists -- know is best for Oregon.

Your evening news show, national, statewide or local, is a campaign commercial for the politics of the Left. Once you suspect that may be how things are, you will begin to ask questions about what you see and hear. When you do that, you will begin to understand why what don’t see on your screen isn’t there.

http://oregonmag.com/JanusEd.htm

This, from a considerably more reputable media source, is probably why the major media are not getting excited about this.


No time for affair with Kerry
By Misha Schubert
February 16, 2004

SHE has the perkiness of a cheerleader and the ambition of a Hollywood starlet, but it's hard to believe Alexandra Polier ever had an affair with US Democratic presidential frontrunner John Kerry.

For one thing, at the time my former journalism school classmate was supposed to be sharing intimate moments with the senator, she was working up to 80 hours a week on student assignments and dating one of our classmates.

If she had time to manage an affair as well, that would have made her one hell of an overachiever.

(more)

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,8693388%255E2703,00.html

The author appears to be a regular writer for the Australian.

[mmonk]

8. Of course

Bill and Hillary Clinton. What's the matter folks, don't you listen to Hannity and Limbaugh and other people who always tell the truth? If we can just confirm it with Jerry Falwell, then we'll know for sure.

[jazzsammich]

9. and any magazine that would publish this little gem...

"Modern physics is fit only for people who drool and live in rooms with rubber walls. It is closer to mystical eastern religion than it is to fixing a carburetor. Modern physics is almost un-American, residing as it does in a fairyland of particles that act like waves without an ocean, and which are both here and not here at any given
instant. It’s Alice in Wonderland Cheshire Cat science, fit only for the mentally disturbed. No, I’ll stick with post-Newtonian, pre-string theory physics, where atoms are things, not music from an instrument that doesn’t exist."**

...loses any and all credibility in my book. i mean, come on. "Modern physics is almost un-American?!?!??!"

:wtf:

if it weren't so mind-bogglingly stupid, i'd be in hysterics.

--jim k.

** the quote above, by the way is by an editorial entitled "The Physics of American Politics: Understanding Horowitz and the new black Republicans," apparently written by one Larry Leonard, ThD. what's a ThD, you ask? according to their masthead, it's a "Dr. of Thinkology, Emerald City Universiatus Committiatum, Dept. of anti-Gallic cowboy philosophy." i can feel my IQ points dropping by the minute. best for me to move on now.

[jazzsammich]

10. oh, and i almost forgot...

(edited once for html formatting and once again for a dumb typo.)

...in this same article, Leonard makes a big deal about how certain heavy elements fall apart after a very short half-life, and how one of those elements is CALIFORNIUM.

which is obviously because california's full of unstable loonies and has NOTHING to do with the fact that berkeley's got one of the best super-heavy element research programs in the entire world.

:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:

--jim k.

yeah. that's about enough of that.

[tobius]

13. californium

californium

(Cf), synthetic chemical element of the actinide series in Group IIIb of the periodic table, atomic number 98. Not occurring in nature, californium (as the isotope californium-245) was discovered (1950) by Stanley G. Thompson, Kenneth Street, Jr., Albert Ghiorso, and Glenn T. Seaborg at the University of California, Berkeley, as a product resulting from the helium-ion bombardment of curium-242 (atomic number 96) in the 60-inch cyclotron.

All californium isotopes are radioactive; the long-lived isotopes are produced from berkelium-249 or from californium-249. They are: californium-249 (360-year half-life); californium-250 (13-year half-life); californium-251 (800-year half-life); and californium-252 (2.65-year half-life). These isotopes have been used in tracer amounts for investigating the chemistry of californium (which exhibits an oxidation state of +3 in acidic aqueous solution) and for preparing microgram quantities of compounds such as the oxychloride CfOCl, the oxide Cf2O3, and the trichloride CfCl3. There is some evidence for a +2 state also. Metallic californium has not yet been prepared.

source:http://www.britannica.com/nobel/micro/98_61.html

[tobius]

11. My reason for posting is the DLC or Kerry or someone needs to cut

the knees out from under this. We can complain about the media, but the feeding frenzy will continue unless it becomes ridiculous to mention the allegations. When will that happen? It won't be when the media gets a conscience, it will be when the story is dealt with forcefully and finally.

[jazzsammich]

14. ohhhhhhhhh...

i get it now. my apologies, friend. i'd totally misinterpreted your original subject heading. ^_^

--jim k.

[snippy]

16. Only coprophagic freepers are in a feeding frenzy.

But Bush will continue to push this story.

[snippy]

15. This story was dictated by Turd Blossom Rove for coprophagic freepers

to get wood over. Only those grotesquely evil "morans" would give this source any credence. Like Bush himself, his supporters who deceptively and mendaciously post here at DU have no honor or integrity. Decent Americans are tired of the republican semen sleuths.

[BruinAlum]

17. Here's what's behind the story - Rove

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=341502