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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 07:31 PM
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Casualties: Barack Obama And The Battle Of Charleston
The youtube video at the end of the article is hilarious. :rofl:

http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=180

Barack Obama does not seem to know what condition his precondition is in. Late Friday, we thought the matter was settled when Obama made a declarative statement regarding his intent to hold meetings with Holocaust deniers and other rogue leaders: “My theory is you do and you do it without preconditions.”

Of course, that statement contradicted previous denials of such intent by his staff. Obama himself had pre-contradicted himself when, on the Sunday before the debate - regarding any meeting with President Chavez, Obama stated that such meeting would be “under certain conditions”

Confused yet? As we wrote, we and everyone else, thought the matter was settled when Obama made his “you do it without preconditions” statement late on Friday the 27th. However, the Obama campaign fooled us all. By Saturday, it looks like Obama flipped and flopped — yet again.

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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 07:36 PM
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1. You make it tough to support Hillary for those of us on the fence - and that's a lot of us.
The nastiness this early is not toughness - it's just nasty. Stick to the issues and please take on George W. Bush - God knows, we are desperate for somebody to be tough on that SOB.

Not on another Dem, not at this point.

The GOP and George W. Bush - stop them. Your ridicule of Obama or anyone else is not just a waste of time, it's counterproductive to your goal.

This isn't politics as usual. It's the survival of the United States of America that's at stake.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:04 PM
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6. Oh please spare me the Obama Drama
The OP did not post anything "nasty"

It was just a genuine critique of what condition his condition is in

:rofl:
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:18 PM
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13. Fine. We will go around again.
I only hope that next time it will be around saving ourselves from George W. Bush.

I have no other dog in this hunt.

Later. Again.

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Grandrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:04 PM
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7. You nailed it exactly right....
Edited on Sun Jul-29-07 08:10 PM by Grandrose
It has gotten so bad, they pushed me to Obama earlier than I intended.
I would just like to know who these Hillary hit squad malcontents are and if they are Democrats or Rove infiltrators.
They are mean and unreasonable and it is not necessary for Hillary to win the primary and turn off needed Obama supporters for the general election.:shrug:

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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 07:36 PM
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2. He's been changing his position on this as often as people change their socks
Edited on Sun Jul-29-07 07:37 PM by draft_mario_cuomo
So by Saturday he had returned to his position on last Sunday, which was also his position on Tuesday.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:00 PM
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3. Jeff Bridges as The Big Lebowski. Very funny
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:02 PM
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4. Why is it that Clinton supporters lack the brain power to
comprehend the difference between "under certain conditions" and "preconditions"--do they just not follow diplomacy?
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:53 PM
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17. Either that or they know the difference and are just trying to confuse those who don't
Though after reading some of their other posts here, I'm leaning toward your theory (just plain ignorance).
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 11:24 PM
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22. I guess Hillary Clinton would disagree with
Bill Clinton having met with Arafat and PM Barak - they met then ultimately there was no agreement. I have read that the Bush administration feels this way - I think it was great that he tried and that the effort should have been continued.
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:03 PM
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5. I know you are not quoting from this trash site
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:06 PM
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9. One man's trash is another's treasure.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:04 PM
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8. pfft--such pettiness is inane & dumbass
is "hillaryis44" desperate much?

Instead of making a case for Shillary, they nitpick this stupid thing about Obama into the ground. I guess they think that will "distract" people from taking a good close look at Shillary's corporate coziness and slimey business-as-usual lack of courageous leadership. They think it will make people forget that, with her as president, the war in Iraq will drag on forever, war will be declared in other places like Iran and Venezuela, the globalists will continue their plunder, and not much will change at all for people like you and me. We will just be squeezed even harder.

One of my favorite sayings: Small minds think of other people, average minds think of things, great minds think of ideas. "hillaryis44" is obviously in the "small minds" category.
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:12 PM
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10. Media and Voters state it is Hillary's lost . Since Hillary's People
believes in the polls so heavily, Rasmussan did a poll about the issue Obama won that as well. MTP stated it was a goof by Hillary for her to even say anything. They are waiting for the numbers in the next poll to see if it hurts her.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:46 PM
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14. Oh the polls. You mean those things that show Obama hitting
the skids

It is stunning how awful he is doing in IA and SC.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:14 PM
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11. He does seem to need help triangulating
doesn't he. He tends to speak words that answer the question instead of around it.

I'm not on the fence, Barak is my candidate !!!

Some of that money he reports is from me ... and there's more on the way.



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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:18 PM
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12. You're citing hillaryis44????!!!!???? Sorry, I'm not going there. n/t
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:47 PM
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15. I watched a video there. What is wrong with the site?
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:49 PM
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16. Hillary is 44 is a funny site
I'm a Hillary supporter but I think it is hilarious. It is so over the top that I believe some irony and humor are intended.

Obama supporters seem to take it very seriously, maybe if they really looked at it they would see the slapstick humor involved.

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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 10:48 PM
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20. hillary is 44 is great!
It's a great balance to all the hillary bashing and hate on the blogs and websites. If obama supporters can't take a little bit of their own medicine, they need to learn to suck it up and get a thicker skin. Cause hillaryis44 is nothing compared to what the rethug slime machine will do to obama if he wins the nomination.

And Obama needs to learn what condition his condition was in. :rofl:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 11:19 PM
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21. I think the Obama people should take it serious - it is not funny
If the Hillary people thought so, they should consider what they would think if an Obama or Edwards site twisted Hillary stories in as negative and unfair a way as this site does.
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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 09:02 PM
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18. Obama's less then perfect political parsing and
game playing makes him all the more attractive to me. There's a real wisdom within him that I have not found in another candidate in a very long time. He is definitely not speaking from precalculated scripts which allow others to duck and cover through cleaver adviser approved lines and I appreciate the rawness and change that his words offer. In my opinion he is the "real thing".
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 09:11 PM
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19. from Hillaryis44??? no cred at all. none.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 11:28 PM
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23. Isn't that site being run by Free Republic?

I'll try to find the article if I get a chance.

Ack. Only goes to show how friggin' desperate the wingnuts are to get her nominated!!!!!

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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 12:04 AM
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24. Why is Clinton afraid of talking to a holocaust denier?
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