Al Franken is being accused of flip flopping on the war.

[Nitrogenica]

One of the people leading the charge is a man named Michael B Brobkorb, who runs several blogs and is a frequent guest on right wing radio in the Twin Cities.

He frequently posts things like this.

" Franken counts himself among those who originally supported the war but changed over time.
'I was torn,' Franken said. 'I didn't think a president would lie us into war.'
Even at the end of 2003, Franken said the United States should increase troop strength to provide
some stability to the country." Source: Star Tribune, July 10, 2007"

Michael, almost obsessively, posts his talking point about this all over a lot of Minnesota blogs, over and over and over again.

Here's my comment to him.

~~"Michael B Brokorb,

(You said)"Coleman has never wavered, flip-flopped, or even marginally reconsidered his support of the war"

Let me refresh your memory about the Spring of 2003, Michael, when many of us supported the war.
9/11 was still fresh in everyones memory. We were told by the MAINSTREAM MEDIA there was intelligence about the possibility of "mushroom clouds" over major cities. We all wanted to prevent another 9/11.
YOUR PARTY, and the Republicans who we live next door to, all pushed and pushed and pushed. Anyone who disagreed with the push to war in Iraq was labeled a "traitor". There were blogs HERE IN MINNESOTA where people frequently commented they wanted anyone objecting to the war either hung or deported. There was a HUGE amount of hubris as YOU REPUBLICANS and your army of pundits and bloggers pushed us forward to war.
FRANCE was boycotted, because they objected to the war. There were almost riots as righties clamored to smash French Wine bottles in the streets.

We all wanted the terrorists, Korby. We wanted justice. We wanted to be safe again. YOU REPUBLICANS took full advantage of that.

So now, years later, because Franked did what YOU wanted him to, you DARE use that fact as a CHEAP SHOT!!!?

I FIND YOU APPALLING in your HUBRIS!! This comment will be repeated until you get it!"~~

Would anyone here at DU have anything to add? I think I could write a lot more regarding the Spring of 2003. I was against the Iraq war, but what about those of us who were for it? How should we feel about them now?

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

1. Franken has been to Iraq, more than once, to entertain and support the troops.

And, these weren't "fly in and out of the Green Zone" visits. He went by helicopter to various locales where the troops were stationed throughout Iraq.

And, even those of us who opposed the war from the beginning were appalled at the lack of planning to secure Baghdad and the provinces post military "victory". There was a need for not just more troops, but for more law enforcement and civilian oversight, as well.

Michael seems to be terrified of Mr. Franken. MKJ

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. Flip flopping is a sign of intelligence

Most intellectuals admire a politician who is willing to look at evidence and adjust their stance on an issue. Only rigid conservatives are unwilling to change their minds. They place ideology first and that is not what is best for America.

One minor criticism: you say "the Republicans who we live next door too"
Should be 'to' - one o.

Great response, BTW! :)

[baldguy]

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[proud2BlibKansan]

8. Wow how true!

[maximusveritas]

3. There's a better choice

Ciresi was against the war and he doesn't have the negatives that Franken has. He'll be a much stronger candidate than Franken IMO.

[Nitrogenica]

6. I mostly agree, although I'm torn because Al has the "fire in the belly".

It's up to US to decide however, because Republicans are having their privilege of deciding for us taken away.

[Hersheygirl]

4. I don't have a problem with his change of heart,

but, I do have a problem with his statement that he didn't think that * would lie us into a war. Didn't Franken realize after what happen during the 2000 election, these people couldn't be trusted about anything they were saying. There was plenty of information out there to throw doubts into anyones mind.

While I'm not always the brightest bulb in the chandelier, even I knew they were lying about almost everything.

[gulliver]

5. The phrase "flip flopping" is really a litmus test for stupidity.

What should have been a fad has turned into a mental virus endemic to the stupid.

[0007]

9. bttft