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skjpm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:29 PM
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Could Dean be governor of New York?
I'm not giving up on Dean, but in order to soothe his supporters, maybe he could be given another prize. He really has done a lot for the party, and I really think they owe him. I think that he'd make a good governor of New York. That would give him a platform where he could be somewhat in the national spotlight and test his policy ideas. I think that he should give his support to Kerry in return for the Clintons to back him in a NY governor run.

Or maybe something else. But I do think he deserves a big prize for reenergizing the party and speaking the truth to power when it wasn't popular.

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For PaisAn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:32 PM
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1. NY here
and I'd be thrilled to have his as our Governor.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:34 PM
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2. seems a little silly
has there ever been a Governor that has switched states?
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:34 PM
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3. Sorry .. Bigger Fish to Fry
Edited on Sun Feb-15-04 03:00 PM by drfemoe
DEAN: Well, obviously, the Democratic establishment in Washington was not helpful to this campaign. They didn't like us, from the beginning. You know, I didn't owe them anything — 89 percent of our money comes from ordinary people giving small donations. We have no connection or we're not beholden in any way to special interests in Washington. I think they've kind of resented that.
...
But I think this is really a movement for ordinary people to take back their government. We're in big trouble in Washington. Both parties take enormous amounts of special-interest money. And when it comes down to voting, the special interests come first and the ordinary people come second.

The president's Medicare bill is the perfect example. There's more money that goes into HMOs and insurance companies and drug companies than there is to help ordinary seniors. Now, that is not what we ought to be doing in Washington.

Washington folks are plundering the Treasury, particularly this administration, and giving our money to their friends and interest groups. And that has got to be changed, and we will change that.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,111452,00.html
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:35 PM
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4. A Big Prize?? Like the Giant Blue Panda if you hit the middle disk?
He deserves to be president. He doesn't deserve to be thrown a bone by the DNC. They didn't want him because he would have shaken up the powers that be. As a NYer I would love him as governor, but why would you think he would want it? He lives in and loves Vermont.
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mw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:41 PM
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5. Dept of Health and Human Services under Prez Kerry
With the VP: Edwards
SecDef: Clark
HUD: Sharpton
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:44 PM
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7. I Hope Not
That would effectively end his political career, and shift him into the beaurocracy. It would also end his ability to help the Democratic party remake itself into an entity that represents citizen-directed government.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:42 PM
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6. could John Kerry be dog catcher?
Howard Dean is running for President.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:53 PM
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11. you mean fly catcher doncha?
Edited on Sun Feb-15-04 03:07 PM by drfemoe
ttp://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040214/i/r596321017.jpg
.. link to photo
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:48 PM
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8. that job is reserved for Elliot Spitzer
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skjpm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:51 PM
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10. Ok, I'd rather have him for President
And I'm going to vote for him in the primary. But President is not the whole government and there might be other influential positions where Dean could show his stuff. And it seems we need a new governor of NY. I think it would be a bit more showy than a cabinet position.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:50 PM
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9. Dean will only get a swift boot in the ass
The people in power resent his candidacy and movement and he will be punished accordingly.

Right after they beg his supporters for money.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:59 PM
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14. Partially right
the people in power being the voters.

I don't sense they want to punish Dean. They just don't want to vote for him.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:04 PM
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15. No, the voters mostly agree with Dean on issues
According to exit polls.

They just think Kerry is more able to beat Bush.

The Washington power-brokers hate Dean and everything he stands for.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:08 PM
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17. You mean NO ONE voted for Dean?
Not one single voter (in power) voted for Dean??
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GodHelpUsAll2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:07 PM
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16. I noticed
that was one of the questions this morning on Fox. "Can the DNC count on you to do fund raising for the nominee" Translation: Can you sway your 89% small donation base to pour that same kind of money into the DNC? Just my opinion, but I doubt it.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:10 PM
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18. It won't go to the DNC/DLC
It will remain faithful to the purpose of changing this goddess forsaken country.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:20 PM
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20. I won't.
I won't give a single penny to the DNC or to the Kerry campaign. Not one cent.

I'm not going to pay for the campaign of a man who supported the war, NCLB, every Bush tax cut, every Bush budget, and the PATRIOT Act! If I did that, I might as well give my money to Bush!

Hey, at least the regular people KNOW Bush is their enemy. With Kerry, they'll be deluded into thinking that he's their friend. And that's more dangerous. I prefer the enemy you know.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:55 PM
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12. Something else
Schumer or Spitzer, or McCall will go for Gov.
DNC Chair... maybe... President... Vice President... Something Else.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:56 PM
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13. I'm thinking Dean is in line for Senate after Jeffords retires
Jeffords is not a young man. I believe I heard hints this would be his last term. Dean is the obvious choice to run for Jeffords seat.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:13 PM
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19. This is an option for 2006.
Whether Dean will go for it, I don't know. It means being one of those Washington insiders, or perhaps fighting for change. We would be proud to have him to replace Jeffords, should he retire.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:24 PM
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22. Would you call Paul Wellstone a "Washington insider?"
I'm not comparing Dean to Wellstone. Just pointing out that one can work hard for regular people from Capitol Hill.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 03:21 PM
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21. Dean could run for Vermont governor again this year and then for Senate in
2006. That would be nice.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 04:05 PM
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23. New York? no way
There are a host of strong candidates to run for Governor of NY against Puke-taki, if only they could run a decent campaign and get any help from the DNC rather than being written off.

2006 is the year of Andrew Cuomo
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