Alexandra Polier: The Silence in Kenya ( A letter/plea to Ms. Polier)

[seventhson]

Alexandra Polier (aka Alex Polier) is the AP reporter hunkered down with her purported fiance in his family's Kenya retreat who has been forever linked to John F. Kerry by an alleged affair in recent years.

John Kerry's nomination as the Democratic candidate for President in many respects hinges on what Alexandra Polier says or does NOT say in the next few days and weeks.

The silence from Kenya, from Ms. Polier. is absolutely deafening.

It is time that she comes forward and speaks for the good of the United States and the good of the Democratic Party and for the good of EVERY human being on the face of the planet who wants George W. Bush to go down in history as a one term president out of touch with reality just like his father.

We can NOT wait for Kerry to sweep the primaries to find out whether or not he is a lying "sleazebag" (to quote Alexandra Polier's father)!

We cannot wait to find out whether or not Kerry has lied to us and to his wife.

We NEED to know whether this man is another Bill Clinton whose lust for young ladies will be used by the Republicans to hammer us and muddy the waters for another election season or another four years.

We need to know NOW:

Has Kerry pressured you to cover up this story and to hide out in Africa with your fiance's family?

Have there been any threats from ANYONE in this matter? (Alleged friends are reported as saying this thing is much nastier than is being reported. Is this true? If so, Why?)

If this is all a right wing or a Democratic primary dirty trick then we need to know NOW!

You need to tell us the truth. If you remain silent - you silence will speak volumes. If there is no denial it LOOKS like an admission, Miss Polier, to many of us.

If your girlfriends or fiance's family know the truth; if there are letters or drivers, or political aids or other human beings who can and will tell us the story - then the story will come OUT. If it is all a lie and there is nothing to tell - then we need to hear it from YOU!

You are a reporter. A good one. You are a decent writer and reportedly a fine human being. You KNOW that no matter what happens that this story will come out.

You have nothing to be ashamed of if it is true.

We the American people - especially the Democrats - will embrace and protect you. Because we MUST. We owe you that.

But you must come forward and tell us the truth. Now. We deserve to know whether Kerry has lied to us or not.

Is Kerry lying to us or is he telling us the truth?

Did he have an affair with you or not?

He is the man who would be king.

And YOU as a citizen owe it to your fellow citizens to tell us whether this man is a liar and a cheat. Or whether you are both victims of a smear campaign.

PLEASE tell us the truth!

America's future is in the balance.

America needs you, Alexandra Polier!

Please tell us the truth about Kerry. For better or worse.

And then we can move on.

Thank you.

a fellow citizen

(and there are millions of citizens who will thank you for telling us the truth - no matter what that truth may be - because we need to know whether our candidates are telling us the truth)

[Renew Deal]

1. Do you hope it's true?

[drfemoe]

31. If hopes and wishes

were candy and kisses, we would all have a very Merry Christmas ..

What does "hope" have to do with anything?

[WiseMen]

2. Can We Stop Probing into Peoples Personal lives. That is a RW practice

[Birthmark]

3. Burden shifting.

The burden of proof is on the claimant. Mr. Drudge and those that believe him are required to provide evidence that the assertion is true. I sincerely doubt that Sen. Kerry can say anything that will convince them.

[funky_bug]

4. Stay out of my bedroom!

Sure, I'm not running for office, but if we have the right to know where Kerry's penis has been, then how long before everyone has the right to know where everyones' penis go?

I prefer to solidify my right to my sexual relationships by not prying into others.

I understand you want this issue to be "put to bed" but the best way to put it to bed is for THIS party to stop perpetuating it.

[Name removed]

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[funky_bug]

12. I'd respond in kind

yet your sig line says to me that nothing I say will matter.

Clinton ran a great office, and his penis only got in the way of Monica's dry cleaning expenses.

[Spider Jerusalem]

14. Haha.

Highest ethical and moral values. Sure. Good one.

Some of our best leaders have scored kind of low on the "moral values" scale.

George Washington - slaveowner, bought his first election (to Virginia House of Burgesses), may have had an affair with a married woman.

Thomas Jefferson - slaveowner, may have fathered children by one of his slaves.

Abraham Lincoln - frequenter of prostitutes, at least in his younger days, and syphilitic.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt - engaged in a series of affairs, kept a mistress in the White House.

John F. Kennedy - dozens or tens of dozens of extramarital affairs, one-night-stands, regular purchaser of the services of prostitutes, would pretty much stick it in anything with two X chromosomes.

Personally, on my list of essential leadership qualities, this sort of thing is very near the bottom. I do not care if a President cheats on his wife with other women, with other men, with household appliances, whatever, as long as he is capable of performing the job he was elected to do in a competent, intelligent and positive manner. THAT is the only criterion which matters.

[funky_bug]

18. Beautiful!

Nothing like a little research before making judgements. I applaud you.

22. unfortunately, a lot of people do care

I'm not saying I do.
But a lot of Republicans and independents do. Especially before some has been elected.
& since one of the reasons for backing Kerry is his "electability" this is where the relevance comes into play.
A lot of people do not have the balanced, appropriate standard for elected officials that you have.

[JackRiddler]

52. You know, this is pathetic...

Here in the waning days of the Dean campaign I've actually started working for the lug. Kerry is bad news, the epitome of "regime rotation." I want to see him go down because he voted for PATRIOT, for IWR, for Plan Colombia, and for Homeland, because he supported the Bush program in the years when this was expedient, because he will bring no changes on the essential global issues of energy, war and peace, the Drug War, police statism, democracy and electoral integrity, campaign finance, spook domination of foreign policy, or the military industrial complex. (Don't know if Dean can handle most of these either, but he's a wildcard who might try.)

But I don't want to see Kerry go down because of the intern. I don't care how immature this makes him as a sexual being, if the stories are true, but it's entirely irrelevant to government.

We are voting for a political leadership, someone to implement policies. The only character qualities that matters is whether he speaks truth on the issues he decides as president, and whether he has the wherewithal to implement what he speaks and the competence required for the job. HIS SEX LIFE IS IRRELEVANT.

I don't care how distasteful you find it, in the absence of criminal behavior it is no basis whatsoever for deciding how to cast your vote. Anyone who thinks the President is some kind of personal behavioral role model is hungry for idols, or foolish. We are not voting for head nanny.

So what if Bush is pure in this regard (doubt it!) Does that make him better than a philandering Kerry?

You can go ahead and scratch FDR, Eisenhower, Kennedy, probably Reagan, definitely Papa Bush and Clinton from your list.

Not to mention 80 percent of all present heads of state and prime ministers in Europe, Latin America and Asia.

But hey, I'm sure there are a few Ayatollahs who meet your sexual standards.

Imagine that! If this madness had obtained in the 1940s, we would have spent the last 60 years sticking the Scarlet Letter on the foreheads of philandering presidents. There would have been at least six attempted impeachments - on this basis!

This is such a laugher to most of the rest of the world, which is at least slightly more mature in the view of sexual matters - which ARE NONE OF YOUR DAMNED BUSINESS.

The only way to ever defang this idiocy is to call the media on it:

- NONE OF YOUR DAMNED BUSINESS. HYPOCRITES! (And that they most definitely are!)

- STOP BLINDING PEOPLE WITH PRIVATE IRRELEVANCIES. THIS IS ABOUT WAR, PEACE AND THE FATE OF HUMANKIND.

[BL_Zebub]

27. The point is that the Repukes WILL perpetuate it

And that being the case, then it's better that the issue is dealt with NOW, and if Kerry did indeed have this affair (and there are others according to the UK press), let's get rid of his ass now and get a better nominee.

I don't believe Kerry can beat Junior anyway, but he is guaranteed to lose if he becomes the nominee, and then further scandals develop after it's too late to dump his ass.

[King of New Orleans]

5. Wonkette says

That the gal in question has told friends (note the plural) that there is nothing to the story.

Doesn't Wonkette always know?

http://www.wonkette.com/

[OKNancy]

33. Also read that a friend said

that she has known Alex P. for two years and she has never mentioned John Kerry one single time.

[seventhson]

36. Why won't Alex Polier simply deny it then?

That is all I am asking for here.

A clear denial. An absolute denial.

No mincing of words. No parsing of tricky phrases.

[oasis]

6. I think the Skull and Bonesers have her under lock and key. Why

else would she decline to be plastered all over the tabloids for the next 5 years?

[funky_bug]

19. Don't you mean

Skull and BONERS?

God, I crack me up.

[oasis]

24. Ba dum bump clang. :-)

:-)

[Adelante]

26. Okay, Wife, you did it

:7

[janx]

8. Bonkette says

"...there's nothing to report."

http://www.bonkette.com

[Bonobo]

9. "America needs you, Alexandra Polier!"

That's great stuff, no really. I mean, your finger is right there on the pulse of what the American people are concerned about. No doubt about it.
If this woman wants to serve her country, she should come right out and tell us everything about her "relationship" with Kerry. I for one would also like to know whether or not he puts the toliet seat down after he goes to the bathroom too! I think a man who does not do that is not fit to represent the interests of America's women!

[DoveTurnedHawk]

10. Please Stay Out of Ms. Polier's Privates (eom)

DTH

[Lady President]

11. Forever linked?

"...who has been forever linked to John F. Kerry..." And by "forever", you mean the last four or five days. :eyes:

Maybe I'm modest, but if you ask me questions about my sex life, you'll receive deafening silence from me too. Why would she bother to deny it? Kerry denied it and it wasn't enough for those people who want him to be guilty. If she denies, it won't be enough either.

[seventhson]

13. Forever linked by history. But her FAILURE to deny it is

an indication that it may be true.

In the law the failure to deny an allegation is often one indicator of guilt.

Example:

"Did you break that window, young man?"

Guilty silence.

If she denies it then I will back off a lot.

[KC21304]

20. " Her failure to deny it is an indication that it maybe is true "

I can't believe that even you with your known feelings for Kerry said this.

[bigtree]

15. Truth, Sir,

. . . is a cow which will yield such people no more milk, and so they are gone to milk the bull."

-Samuel Johnson (1709–1784), British author, lexicographer

[seventhson]

17. Yuck

but funny.

[wellstone dem]

16. I feel bad for her

This is not a case where she came forward on her own, how many months and years is she going to have to deal with this. True or not, she owes nobody anything. If she wants to come forward fine. If she doesn't fine. This is not her doing. Leave her alone.

[seventhson]

21. She is a reporter. he is in the public eye. She knows whether Kerry lied

and she owes it to us to tell us.

Kerry says it is not true.

If he is lying then as a citizen she should tell us.

I want to know if he is lying and I think millions of others do too.

I agree with the editor of the Philly paper on Aaron Brown the other night: she needs to tell us if it is true or not.

[Nicholas_J]

47. So far

No media outside of right wing media has reported on this. The posts from U.K. or Australian papers are owned by Rpuert Murdoch, so those papers cannot be relied on to provide accurate information. THe Murdoch Papers and Drudge have revealed a willingness on the par ot Ms Poliers parents to discuss Senator Kerry and they are not in Kenya, but right here in the U.S., in Pennsylvania, yet not one major media source has interviewed he parent, ot reported that they tried to and they refused comment. Neither hjas the major media noted that they have attempted to interview Ms Polier herself, and were refused an interview. There are no media sources that are not related to a right wing political viewpoint that have reported on this at all. Murdoch's papers are as suspect as Fox, who were responsible for stating that Bush had won the election of 2000 hours before the polls closed, resulting in many democrats deciding not to go to the polls and vote, resulting in Bush being able to win through the electoral college.

It seems odd that Ms Poliers parents would give interviews to a number of British Papers (The London Sun, the Herald. etc.) all owned by Ruport Murdoch, and unabashed ultraconservative supporter of the Bush regime. But give none to the major media in the U.S.

Literally every paper that has reported in this incident is owned by Murdoch, and the few British Papers that were not, were reporting on the stories printed in Murdoch's papers.

[sallyseven]

61. She does not owe

you one thing. She won't dignify the gossip by making any statements. If she said never happened people will analyze the statement for ever. Did she really mean it? Is it true lets check her underwear draw? She is a reporter and know that some people will believe what they want to believe no matter what she says. Her parents said no it didn't happen. Who are these friends? Murdock is spreading this all over his ratty newspapers. He is a viable source?

[Name removed]

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[janx]

29. Oh for pete's sake. n/t

[Meldread]

25. I agree.

She needs to come forth and speak. She'll either dispel all doubt by saying it's a bunch of BS or she'll say that it's true. Either way we need to know. I don't understand why Kerry supporters aren't pushing it -- if they believe their guy is innocent then they would want her to come forward and dispel all doubt. Unless of course they have doubts in their guy...

You hear all these cries of "We must beat Bush! We can't afford another 4 years of Bush! GET BEHIND KERRY NOW!" If that's the case then we need to find out if it's true, so we can start looking for a different nominee -- Kerry's chances of beating Bush will look bleak. I don't know about anyone else, but I got sick of hearing about what Clinton did. We know how the American people vote, and they'll vote AGAINST Kerry or won't vote at all just so they don't have to spend the next 4 years listening to where Kerry's penis went yesterday.

For people who don't want this to be an issue, it's already an issue -- so it's too late. Stop crying in your tea cups (as John Kerry would say) and get over it.

[wyldwolf]

28. Please tell us, Ms. Polier, someone is desperate for anything to hurt...

..John Kerry.

Someone wants blood, Ms. Polier.

They want the democratic party's hopes and dreams to vanish in 2004 simply because their dog isn't in the race anymore.


Ms. Polier - please tell us so we can enable the Bush regime for another 4 years.

[West Coast Democrat]

I'm trying to control my laughter

this post is a joke, right?

[seventhson]

32. No Joke

Kerry lying about Botox is one thing (if he did lie).

But lying about this to us is unforgiveable in this political culture.

If she denies it then I can move on.

As long as she is silent the silence will be deafening.

I , for one, believe a man (or woman) who will lie to his wife/lover about his faithfulness will lie about anything to anybody.

[West Coast Democrat]

35. Gees...try to get ahold of yourself a bit

Does this thing keep you awake at night, or what?

[seventhson]

39. Frankly, the idea of a Skull and Bonesman, another one, in the White House

Really does keep me awake at night.

I have children.

I worry about their future.

With the Bonesen in power (Bush OR Kerry) I am worried that there may not be much of a future. Bush must go. But Kerry is, to me, not much of an improevement. Especially compared to what we potentially COPULD have in a man like Kerry or Kucinich or even John Edwards or Gore or even - even Hillary. Anybody but ANOTHER Yale elitist from the same secret order as the Bushes

ALSO, I work with poor families in the inner city. Vietnam Veterans suffering from PTSD and unable to get veterans benefits. AIDS victims.

The dirt poor in an urban environment.

Yes.

I lose sleep worrying bout all of our futures.

and whether Kerry will just be more of the same corporofascist rhetoric from a dem.

[West Coast Democrat]

40. Let's not pretend you're worried about Kerry's penis then...

When it's just the fact that you don't like Kerry, period.

[seventhson]

43. I don't care about what he does with his winky. I care if he lies.

I do not TRUST him and do not want him as my president.

I have no feelings about liking him or not. Same as Bush.

I do not need to hate or dislike a man to despise what he does and what he stands for.

[HalfManHalfBiscuit]

41. So you are worried about penises AND bones

I'd steer clear of corn-on-the-cob.

[seventhson]

45. Thanks for the advice.

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34. Fixated on Kerry's penis

There is no evidence for this silly RW rumor that has been flatly denied.

No story.

But for some, a politician's penis has a mysterious allure. Thankfully, not many.

[KFC]

46. LOL - Kerry's PENIS! We must stop Kerry's PENIS!

Drudge said so!!

[Octafish]

37. Patton: "A soldier who won't fuck is a soldier who won't fight."

Gen. Patton was talking about the spirit of a fighting man -- a man who WANTS to live. John Kerry, it seems to me, has that spirit -- as well as what it takes to kick the Little Turd from Crawford out of the White House.

BTW: This story you keep posting is hilarious, seventhson. You know why that's funny? The more it gets repeated, the better. It serves to get people to pay attention to Kerry's message.

[seventhson]

42. I honestly don't care if he F***s. What I care about is whether he lies.

Lying to his family and to us is a trait we no longer can afford in a President.

[Octafish]

49. Like when Dean lied about the Social Security retirement age?

Remember, Dean said the retirement age should be raised? When asked, Dean denied every saying it. Then they played a tape of him stating he wanted it raised. Then Dean admitted it.

Same goes for when Dean came up with the whopper about the girl being raped by her daddy. Dean said the girl needed an abortion, so he didn't see why her parents should be informed. The story was not true, but Dean kept repeating it.

How about the time Dean said his back wasn't good enough for the US Army? He got his deferment and spent that winter skiing and pouring concrete. That's hard on a back, but that's not what Dean told the Army docs. When asked by the Chicago Sun-Times, Dean said, "Yes, I probably could have served."

You're right, seventhson! The nation can't "afford" a liar in the White House.

[sallyseven]

63. One mans lie is another mans

explanation on why they defy the facts in front of them.

[janx]

56. Aren't we going a little overboard with the military motif?

And do you really think that the American people are going to listen to this magnanimous quote of General Patton's and give ole' John a clap on the back if this is true?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

38. Is this a letter or a push poll?

[amandabeech]

44. I agree with seventhson in that

that Ms. Polier must come out with a statement either denying the truth of any allegations or explaining what exactly happened that would cause people to link her romantically, if not sexually, to Kerry.

A great many people here at DU do not think that any dalliances of a politician are any of our business, and I agree in large part.

But what many DUers think is not important in this election if we are to win and get rid of the evil Bush gang.

Most DUers, in my opinion, will end up voting for the Dem candidate, even if they have to completely plug their nose with perfumed cotton.

What matters is what Independent and Moderate Republican voters think.

I think that too many of them will be repelled by the thought of a rerun of Monicagate judging by my own conversations with several of them.

This will be a close election, IMHO. We must not let the Repugs have any more ammo than necessary.

I am personally still ABB, but if I had to vote on Tuesday in Wisconsin, I'd vote for someone other than Kerry, on the outside chance that there is something to this.

We need to find out about this now rather than after Kerry has won the nomination.


Amanda

[seventhson]

48. Thanks and welcome to DU Amanda Bleech

That is all I am saying. I cannot believe the animosity here towards me for wanting an honest answer.

[amandabeech]

54. Because many, many people find it hard to believe

that someone whom they trust and who is otherwise a paragon of virtue can have a hidden, black side.

I'm speaking from experience.


Amanda



On edit, thank you, seventhson!

[sallyseven]

64. This woman does not owe you or anyone

on this board an answer to Murdock's sleazy statements. How dare you ask. She said no comment. Because if she said no you would still be after her.

[oldcoot]

50. What about her right to privacy?

While I am no Kerry fan, I do support Ms. Polier's right to privacy. I see no reason why Ms. Polier, a private citizen, should have to discuss her sex life with millions of complete strangers. Indeed, she has nothing to gain by coming forward and a lot to lose.

You say that she has "nothing to be ashamed of" if the story is true. This statement ignores the fact that many Americans consider it immoral to knowingly have sex with a married man or woman. If this story continues to gain legs, she will probably receive a few letters calling her a "whore." More importantly, she may even have people questioning whether or not Kerry got Polier her current job no matter how good of a reporter she is.

We also do not know her fiance. Polier's fiance probably had no idea that his future wife would get this type of exposure. Can he handle the pressure?

Even if she talked to the press about her relationship with Kerry, it might not do any good. If she denies having sex with Kerry, many will not believe her because they will think that Kerry bought her off or that she does not want to embarrass her fiance. If she claims that she slept with Kerry, many will argue that Rove bribed her to come forward or she just wants her 15 minutes of fame. No matter what she does, Polier cannot win.

I really do not blame her for not coming forward. If I were in her position, I would do the same thing.

[seventhson]

51. As a Citizen - If she knows Kerry is lying, she should tell us

sleeping with a married presidential candidate is kinda like asking to be exposed, in all candor.

As a reporter she knew what she was in for. Maybe she was young and naive - but if Kerry is lying about this she should tell us.

The longer she fails to deny it, the deeper will be my distrust.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

53. What if she denies it and you don't believe it?

Then what?

[seventhson]

55. We'll see what she says.

She has to deny it first. But I have stated here I will back off.

If there is other evidence we'll see.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

59. So we should NOT take Kerry's word that there's no merit

but we should take your word that you will back off?

[oldcoot]

58. He was running for the presidency in 1998?

I thought that this alleged affair occurred in 1998. At that time, Kerry was not a presidential candidate. Polier may not have know that he was planning on running for the presidency in the future.

Even if she did know that he was running for office, she still has the right to privacy. I do not see why any citizen should feel compelled to discuss his/her sex life with complete strangers. If she knew or had evidence that Kerry committed a crime, then I would agree that she has a duty to come forward. However, lying about one's sex life is not a crime so she is under no obligation to come forward. She has every right to tell us to mind our own business.

[CabalBuster]

57. My guess is she'll come forward at the appropriate time

The media is just not ready yet...wait until Kerry gets the nomination. Then all hell will break loose. This is what Rove wants, so don't give us any spoilers, just yet.... So obvious that the media is just sitting on its hands waiting for the magic word.

[spooky3]

60. A few thoughts

1. What people do in their private lives is private, and they should tell everyone else it is none of their business. Unless this is not truly private (e.g., a workplace encounter involving sexual harassment) we need to ignore it.

2. If it is really important to you that the President not have had any extramarital relationships (whether for yourself and the "lying" issue or because of how it will affect Republicans or others that you believe would otherwise SUPPORT the candidate), find a candidate you think would meet that standard (Edwards? Dean? Kucinich?) and vote for that person. Then hope that they do not disappoint you.

3. *Personally*, IF Kerry vigorously pursued a woman who indicated she uninterested in him, particularly when he was married, that is WORSE to me than Clinton's connecting with Lewinsky. If the only reason an affair did not ensue was that the young woman said no, how does that make the man more "innocent" than a man who found someone who was attracted to him? However, both behaviors are less than admirable if they used their powerful positions to lie to (i.e., "I really like you") and entice young women who, while fully adult, were not able to see that they were being used or not experienced enough to deal with this situation. Most people are not as capable as they might believe they would be at dismissing a very powerful person who is not otherwise disgusting--they've never been in that situation, so how do they KNOW what they would do? How many men would turn down Miss Universe? But it is still a personal issue. Even if I believed he did this repeatedly, it is not related to the job unless it crosses the line of workplace relationships, involves criminal behavior such as stalking, etc.

[amandabeech]

62. Here's my worst-case scenario

and I'm someone known to have a very over-active imagination who is sometimes right nonetheless.


I am assuming these facts to be true for the sake of argument:

(Yes, I was trained as a lawyer)


1. Kerry knows Alex from somewhere.

2. Kerry invited Alex to join his campaign.

3. Alex's Dad calls Kerry a "sleazeball" and would not like her to marry someone like Kerry, or words to that effect.

4. Alex's Mom says that Kerry was after her daughter.

5. Kerry issues statements denying that he had an affair, or words to that effect in newspaper interviews and on Imus.

6. Alex's friend says that something was going on and that it got "nasty."

7. Alex, in Kenya with her fiance, won't talk.


Basing this on personal experience, having been in both what I think are the positions of both Alex and her friend, this is what I think the worst case could be, and I emphasize the "could":

Alex and Kerry met at some point. He was the aging, but gregarious politician, and she the up-and-coming reporter/campaign junkie. They went to drinks/dinner. It wasn't clear whether it was a business meeting to talk over her joining his campaign or staff or a "date." Maybe he even wanted to pick her brain on how young people thought, etc., etc., etc.. or at least that's how it could be rationalized.

This happened a few times. A little too much alcohol was consumed. Maybe something happened physically, but maybe not too much. Maybe this happened a few times over the course of a few months.

She realized that this wasn't such a good idea, but he was hooked. Maybe she thought that she could continue to interact with him on a platonic basis thinking that he would be a good contact for her career whatever it was, so she tried to keep him at arm's length.

He didn't take the hint. That's when it got "nasty."

He burns up the wires and the cell phone networks. He calls her all the time. There are constant e-mail messages. Somehow he manages to show up where he thinks she is. He calls her parents' a lot, looking for her. He somehow rationalizes what he's doing as looking for staff, bending the ear of an advisor or working the press. She doesn't want to admit the mess that she's in, so she tells herself that his attentions are nothing. Her friend, however, thinks that Kerry's out of control.

Boyfriend/fiance eventually knows at least some of it, but Kerry finally stops and concentrates on his campaign, which appears to go nowhere.

Kerry's campaign heats up, and all kinds of folks start prying into his background. Somebody in the campaign realizes that there is a problem with Alex, even though Kerry won't admit it. Somehow, Alex ends up in Kenya with her fiance and she won't talk.

So what you have is an unconsummated romantic attachment in which Kerry ended up behaving very, very badly toward a young woman, to the point of being scary, but what he, in deluded good conscience, can deny.


I've seen stuff like this happened in real life and not on TV. People can deny and rationalize bad behavior in their own mind, but they can't fool people who actually knew what they did.

I simply do not want to find out something like this in October.

Flame away.

Amanda

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