Some Republican will steal the Democrats thunder and come out with a bill for impeachment

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

And the Democrats will look like idiots for not doing it first.

The Republicans should do everything in their power to distance themselves from this President and the War in Iraq if they want to survive at all in the next election. They will find some kind of articles that they can ideologically approve of and that do not reflect badly on themselves or their own judgment - if I were them, I would look at something about ignoring the generals advice initially about what kind of manpower was needed to wage war in Iraq. They will say that Bush was incompetent, but it doesn't mean that they are all incompetent.

I hope this doesn't happen. There will be not just eggs but omelets on the faces of our guys as they scramble belatedly to get on board.

[babylonsister]

1. I would welcome ANYONE who introduces a bill for impeachment, and

could care less about the omlettes. Might wake some of them up finally.

[bbinacan]

2. I don't think this will happen but

on the off chance it does, who will the republican be?

[Chipper Chat]

5. Hagel

if a senator sponsors. Several maverick Pubs in the House could introduce. A member of the black caucus maybe.

[bbinacan]

9. Good choice but

I doubt he would.

[RufusTFirefly]

10. He won't. He's a Senator

It has to happen in the House.

[bbinacan]

12. That's right. Thanks for

pointing that out.

[coalition_unwilling]

13. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) comes to mind. Saw him on "This Week"Rep.

with the smarmy Stephanopolous this morning and Paul said nothing about it, although I half expected him to. Nor did Conyers on the same program, although Steph tried to pin him down on seeking Contempt of Congress resolution if subpoenaed documents are not forthcoming from WH.

I am really starting to dislike Stephanopolous almost as much as I dislike *. But Wimbledon was on NBC and I can't stand Spume on Fox. Thank God for KPFK 90.7 (Pacifica) on Sunday mornings is all I can say.

[koopie57]

18. I think Pelosi and Reid

should combine their balls, get up in front of the House and begin the process. Then ask everyone who will be behind this process to come up and join them right now. That should make it news worthy.

Then hire or solicit volunteers for every democrat and start and e-mail campaign, tv ads and phone calls and letters to the editors to explain why they are going to stop the funding for the war, but assure the citizens there is enough money to bring them home.

This is the most important thing we need to do to make headways on any other issue. This is soon enough in the election season to stop funding, people will forget it and think about the troops coming home.

I'm so sick of them being afraid. I know in my life standing up to the fear even if I lost was so much better than being afraid of it. And if they don't do something, I will assume there is some self-serving monetary reason behind it and it will be time to get rid of a large portion of the congress.

[muntrv]

3. I see attempt to steal the Dems. thunder with various GOP legislators

jumping ship on Iraq, with Sens. Lugar and Domenici. That way, they can tell their constituents that they stood up to mean ole bush and darth cheney.

[Xipe Totec]

4. And the downside would be...?

:shrug:

[tridim]

6. Don't worry about that..

It's the ends that matter, not the means.

[jgraz]

7. The Dems have thunder?

I never knew...

[Heath Hatcher]

11. They have thunder, you just got to look for it

As for the GOP being the ones leading the charge againist impeachment, I hardly see that coming. Sure they may once in a while disagree with him on some of his policies but never in a million years would they lead the charge to remove one of their one from power, whatever shit there in Rethugs stick together.

[jgraz]

16. It must be hidden under all that dry powder

[ShortnFiery]

21. ....

:rofl: jgraz made a funny! :-)

[RufusTFirefly]

8. Some Republicans revere the Constitution too

The question of impeachment is a Constitutional one, and I for one will not be embarrassed if a Republican introduces an impeachment resolution. I'll be relieved.

Adherence to the Constitution should transcend political affiliation. I know it doesn't often. But it should.

[CK_John]

14. I have always felt This was a rove plan. Check my post and find out why.

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3360687>

[LaPera]

15. No way, they love Bush & profited very well with him, plus it would be a blow for all republicans..

again...They will indeed distance themselves from him when running, but after all they are republicans, ALL with ultimately the same agenda, ideology and philosophy...Government helping corporations, over people, people should fend themselves and our tax dollars and slave labor should only aid corporations...fuck the workers and poor...the republicans proved their sick ideology very well with six years of complete control!

Of course if a one in a million chance it occurred, (which it never would) it would be welcomed and supported by all democrats!

[w4rma]

17. It's the *only* way impeachment and conviction will happen. It has to be somewhat bipartisan. (nt)

[Breeze54]

19. Kucinich already has!!

http://www.nytimes.com/cq/2007/04/24/cq_2628.html">Kucinich’s Impeachment Proposal Takes Antiwar Stand to New Lengths

By Marie Horrigan, CONGRESSIONAL QUARTERLY

Published: April 24, 2007

Ohio Democratic Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich on Tuesday introduced articles of impeachment
against Vice President Dick Cheney for “high crimes and misdemeanors” related to his
participation in the buildup for the war in Iraq — and what the longshot Democratic
presidential contender said was belligerent rhetoric toward Iran.

more....

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hr110-333">H. Res. 333: Impeaching Richard B. Cheney, Vice President of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors

---------------------------------------------

APN Chat with US Rep. Bob Filner on Impeachment

http://www.atlantaprogressivenews.com/news/0189.html

By Matthew Cardinale, News Editor, The Atlanta Progressive News (July 06, 2007)

"I’m calling to confirm my cosponsorship of H Res 333 to impeach Bush and Cheney,"
US Rep. Filner (D-CA) told Atlanta Progressive News in a phone interview.

"These guys have governed with cynicism and complete contempt of the American people
from the beginning," Filner said.

"For political reasons impeachment was taken off the table," Filner said.

"The latest... to say he’s above the law and he’s not part of the Executive Branch...
he’s just gone too far for the average American citizen," Filner said.

H Res 333 is Articles of Impeachment of Vice President Cheney.

President Bush’s impeachment has also been proposed

– although not yet through any bill – by several Members of Congress.

Currently, 10 total cosponsors are listed on the

Library of Congress website for H Res 333:

US Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), plus

US Reps. Yvette Clarke (D-NY),

William Lacy Clay (D-MO),

Keith Ellison (D-MN),

Hank Johnson (D-GA),

Barbara Lee (D-CA),

Janice Schakowsky (D-IL),

Maxine Waters (D-CA),

Lynn Woolsey (D-CA),

and Albert Wynn (D-MD), so far.

Two additional cosponsors confirmed by APN are US Rep. McDermott (D-WA) and US Rep. Filner (D-CA).

Impeachment activist David Swanson says US Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA) has also indicated to a source
that he wanted to have been a cosponsor but said a clerical error had left his name off the list.
Moran has been out of the country and will confirm either way shortly when he returns.

US Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL) called for US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) to put
impeachment back on the table, in a press release on his website. He did not specifically state
he would cosponsor H Res 333, and actually, his remarks seem to relate more to Bush than Cheney.

Kucinich’s Office did not return a call today seeking confirmation on Moran’s cosponsorship.

US Rep. Filner had been a cosponsor of H Res 635, a former bill in the last Session by US Rep.
Conyers (D-OH), to create a Select Committee to investigate possible impeachment offenses by Bush.

So, why did it take him several months to cosponsor H Res 333, when so many of Bush’s offenses
cited in H Res 635 would also apply to Cheney?

"I wasn’t focusing on it. Dennis wasn’t asking people. But it comes into real sharp
focus," Filner said, given current news related to the Vice President.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

22. All Pelosi has to do is sign on to this

as a first step. No thunder lost, not by a long shot. I've called and written my repuke conman asking him to co-sponsor. Now, if THAT happens, we know Bush is in deep doo-doo, because AR-3 is a safe seat for repukes.

[Breeze54]

23. She's going to have to be pushed.

The Occupation Project has been after her about Iraq.

We need to have more people after her about impeachment too.

[ShortnFiery]

20. Rove is admittedly a political genius ...

but because he has "No Elvis" (magical spark), this Evil Genius just can't be everywhere. :shrug:

However, for the life of me, I don't know why Impeachment proceedings have not started at least for Gonzo where there are oodles of "plain sight" evidence. That is, by The House's OWN inaction on The Impeachment Front, it doesn't take a republican strategist to make Our Democratic House Leadership look LAME. :(

If our illustrious Democratic Leaders don't act soon to Impeach it may prove the old tried and true adage, "Never underestimate the Democratic Leadership's ability to pull defeat out of the jaws of victory."

[Heath Hatcher]

24. There is no impeachment proceedings

Because the votes aren't there, the GOP not to mention the moderate Dems in Congress won't go for this. If they don't impeach I WON'T cast the leadership off like everyone else on this board is because your not getting what you want. No i'm a loyalist that stays with the party through thick and thin.

Shame no one else here is, of course unlike everyone here i'm a optimist that dosen't throw a fit about every bill that gets voted on in Congress.

And for the record, our leadership is not LAME, there trying there best, it's just not good enough for everyone else here cause Congress dosen't want to impeach.

[ShortnFiery]

25. It doesn't say that we can't implement the Proceedings just because the END votes are not there now?