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KFC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 08:14 PM
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Kerry kicks ass in DC and Nevada. Wisconsin to follow.
Solid, baby.

We all need to get behind Kerry.

The anti-Bush
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 08:22 PM
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1. You all go on without me.....
Have a good time. I'm still voting for Dean..... I just can't seem to be inspired by the movement of getting behind Kerry. I'd rather sit this one out than be dishonest to myelf.

I've tried to get interested, you know, to aquire a taste for hummus.....
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EXE619K Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 08:29 PM
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2. What's wrong wit Hummus?
Ever tried spreading sum Hummus on a Ritz cracker?

It's wonderful!
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 08:45 PM
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8. Every thing taste better on a Ritz
With a glass of milk, anything can be choked down.
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GodHelpUsAll2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:00 PM
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12. Is it really necessary
To ALWAYS state if you can't get behind Kerry then I guess Bush is ok with you? Is that a way of setting it up to be everyone else's fault and count yourself blame free IF Kerry gets the nomination and then looses the general election?
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 08:41 PM
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5. Vote your issues
Just like Sen. Wellstone asked people to do. I think the biggest difference between Kerry and Bush is that Kerry is taller. Kerry is not capable of independent thought, he needs an opinion poll to tell him how to think. Voted for Bush things 70% of the time, became anti-Bush when he saw how much it was doing for Dean. Kerry will need a 95% Dem congress to be effective. If it is anywhere near 50% he will not be capable of a decision, he needs an opinion poll and congress will be his poll if he gets elected. His independent thought has led to 1% of his material even being voted on. 99% of his proposals don't even make it to a vote, hence most of his thoughts go nowhere.


"There is one lesson I have learned that I hold above all others from my experience as a father, teacher, community organizer, and U.S. senator: We should never separate the lives we live from the words we speak. To me, the most important goal is to live a life consistent with the values I hold dear and to act on what I believe in."

Sen. Paul Wellstone, "The conscience of a Liberal - Reclaiming the Compassionate agenda"
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 08:55 PM
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10. Will Kerry be able to fire Ashcroft and appoint his own Attorney General?
Will he be the one who nominates someone to the Supreme Court if one kicks the bucket? Will he be able to veto anymore raping of our treasury with tax breaks for the rich? The answer to all these questions are yes. Do you not see the importance of that? I can't believe I even need to make these arguments. Really I can't. It is bordering on the surreal.

Don

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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:12 PM
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15. He will be able to because that is the power of the President
Will he stop the raping of the treasure, that is to be seen. It may not be popular and therefore he will not do it. He will not stand up for what is right, he stands for what is popular. Besides Tom DeLay, and Karl Rove who else nominates people to the courts? The president does. Will he make good choices, that remains to been seen. He will vote on popularity, not principles.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:36 PM
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18. What's wrong
with doing the will of the people? I appreciate the fact that Senator Kerry actually listens to his constituents before making a decision.
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 11:25 AM
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21. You missed the point
He will not do the will of the people, he will do the will of congress so he does not lose favor with them. Unless he thinks it will cost him a second term, then he will vote with the people. He will go with congress first because he feels they have the power, just like he felt Bush had the power. He changed his rhetoric when he felt Dean had the power. The only issue that he votes for is the one that he thinks will win, not the one that is right, not the one that reflects his upbringing, not the one that reflects the Democratic party. This year he is a New England Patriots fan, last year he was a Tampa Bay fan.
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 08:59 PM
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11. How Many in Senate were closer to and more respected by Wellstone?
Kerry is 1 of perhaps 5 Senators with a Wellstone-like voting record and he worked closely with Wellstone on a far-reaching clean-government
legislation which the failed to get past up to when Wellstone died.

In honor of Wellstone's memory, those who supported him should
be supporting Kerry.
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:14 PM
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16. When Wellstone died
Kerry was not the man to carry on and push it through. Plain and simple.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 10:03 PM
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19. Unbelievable.
I remember watching Wellstone's final Senate floor speech - C-SPAN2 replayed it after he died. It was a powerful speech against a certain joint resolution that became Public Law 107-243, the Iraq Resolution. Kerry voted for this same piece of legislation.

I would not compare any candidate running for President this year, with the possible exception of Kucinich, with Paul Wellstone. Howard Dean is no Paul Wellstone - and John Kerry isn't either.

Incidentally, what was the bill number of this good-goverment legislation? I'd like to take a look at it.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:09 PM
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14. Do you have any links for those
percentages you are throwing around ?
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:14 PM
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17. I will get back to you on that
I am off to work, but I will get back to you.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 11:49 AM
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22. ha, voted with Bush 70% of the time
I'm sick of people throwing around those misleading figures. So did Feingold and Wellstone. There's so much procedural stuff that's unanimously passed it'd be very tough to get below 70%.
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 08:30 PM
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3. Why?
Why do we need to get behind Kerry? The convention isn't for months yet.

I feel like someone is shoving a contract in my face and saying I need to sign, now!
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GodHelpUsAll2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:03 PM
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13. I'm right there with you
And I am always skeptical of people who subscribe to trying to make the sale by using comparisons to others such as Paul Wellstone. If you can't make the argument based on your own merits then it's probably going to be a hard sale.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 08:42 PM
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6. I'll have to hold my nose
when I vote for Kerry in the GE, but it's Dean till then.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 08:44 PM
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7. I am happy about his sucess but I wish to let the people vote how they see
fit.
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 08:52 PM
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9. This should be in GD2004 so it can be responded properly
n/t
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 10:05 PM
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20. I support Kerry! I sure hope he picks General Clark for VP though.
My support will be ever so much stronger if he does!
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