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hope42mro Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 06:57 PM
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Sick of the Fratricide!! For God's sake!

What's become of us?

Is anyone else getting sick of the infighting that's become of this primary? It's so fatiguing and it gets us no where.
Here are things that most irritate me:

I'm saying this only because I love you!

1)When will you guys learn that attacking someone's candidate does not make them convert to your side. They will not miraculously "see the light". History shows that negative campaigning is counter-productive for Democrats. If you want to win by smearing your opponent join the RNC! Taste and Class are qualities of Democrats.

2)ENOUGH with the self righteous cries of "Conspiracy!" whether it be Media, Skull and Bones, or DLC/DNC whatever! Many Democratic voters are elderly and don't read online stories about conspiracies. They simply watch the camdidates on TV, decide who looks the most presidential and has the best resume. Besides there's a website for every conspiracy, example: "http://godhatesamerica.com" It seems more likely to me that Democrats choose their vote themselves than are manipulated by pretend conspiracy forces.

3)Other self-righteous cries about who is "the most liberal". In THIS election Bush will not be defeated by an opponent who glorifies his liberalism. The nominee will have to be a liberal in moderate's clothing. So please stop it with the "he's not liberal enough!" argument.

4)Please try and remember the big picture. Any Democrat is lightyears better than Bush. Whoever beats Bush will champion the environment not sell it to polluters, he will champion women's rights not dissolve them, he will fight for Civil Unions (all of the Dem.s say they'll do it). He will save the Supreme Court from conservative dominance. That is mosre important than your "non-tranferable" vote
Also remember that all our guys will come together again at the end of the primary, and we must also.

So please everyone. I ask you to discuss the issues, not rumors.

Since my candidate dropped out I now have to decide who to support. The attitude of a candidates supporters is HUGE in that decision because it shows what kind of people that candidate appeals to.
Example: Bush supporters= nationalistic racist biggots

Support your candidate by promoting us all his positive qualities.


If you read this far,all I have to say is wow!
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 07:00 PM
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1. hope42
Wow!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 07:03 PM
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2. Congratulations!
If more posters would evidence this common sense and integrity, we could take down Bush in a landslide.I have repeatedly said that No one's personal agenda is more important than winning this election.This year, winning is definitely all there is and we can only win if we don't eat our own and unite!
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 07:03 PM
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3. Let's test your hypothesis.
"Nader."
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 07:04 PM
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4. If you know the name of the King or Queen being murdered, press 1
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 07:20 PM
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10. I heard there were millions that want to kill King George...
...uh oh, the Secret Service might be tracking this...
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 07:04 PM
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5. I agree. Edwards has done quite well by taking a positive approach
for the most part. Where would he be if he'd have gone negative? Dean is slipping beyond recognition because he decided to go negative against Kerry. Sticking to a positive, upbeat, confident message will win in the long run.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 07:04 PM
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6. I agree with you on the specifics, with one obvious exception: big media
Big corporations own and control big media, now. Dean said that he would break up the big media conglomerates about two weeks before the Iowa caucuses. High level execs in big media outlets, including FOX, are bundling funds for Sen. Kerry, now.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 07:07 PM
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7. Love you too, hope42
in a fraternal way;)

excellent post, my friend .
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 07:08 PM
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8. hear hear!
n/t
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 07:12 PM
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9. How's your trooper?
how's his wife?
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 07:25 PM
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11. Has your candidate stopped beating his wife yet?
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:11 PM
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12. What the hey?
With all due respect, what the heck are you talking on?
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 10:58 PM
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14. He's ok
Getting ready to come home! I'm ok, too. Having surgery this coming week.

And I agree... what the heck was that other post about???
:shrug:
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 09:31 PM
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13. good post!
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 01:24 AM
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15. Thank you.
If I posted what I really thought of all these attacks on the Democrats, my post would likely be deleted. There seems to be an uncertain line as to whether our objections to the attacks are a violation of rules. But it seems that more nasty posts about our candidates stay up than expressed concerns about about these nasty posts.

The intern nonsense was a big thing here a day before anyone took notice and this is the only place where it was a concern - as far as I could tell. Even the right wing news media doesn't seem to feel there's anything to it.

I still think that most of the people doing the attacking are Republicans masquerading as Democrats. Perhaps the best approach is to stop reading this stuff until the attacks stop.
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