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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 12:23 PM
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Edwards talks health care and medical marijuana in Derry campaign stop
Edwards talks health care in Derry campaign stop
By Terry Date--(North Andover, MA) Eagle-Tribune
Saturday, June 9, 2007

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DERRY--Recently disabled after 27 years at work, Mary Gillis now finds herself in a tough spot - her Medicare benefits don't cover any of her prescription costs until she spends $5,300 out of pocket.
With little money for food and gas and just enough for her medication, the 50-year-old Derry woman drove to a small bookstore yesterday to hear Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards talk about two Americas - the haves and the have nots.
"The two Americas are alive and thriving today," Edwards said, adding that he wants one America where everyone has health care and can pay for college.
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If elected, he would require businesses to cover or help cover employees and create regional health markets and tax credits to make insurance more affordable. He would pay for the $90 billion to $120 billion plan by getting rid of President Bush's tax cuts for wealthy Americans.
The candidate was warmly received despite the cramped and hot conditions at Books & Beyond, where a shoulder-to-shoulder crowd of 150 craned to see the former North Carolina senator.
Cameras flashed and men and women wiped sweat from their brows as Edwards said troubled times with a dysfunctional health care system, 37 million in poverty and the war in Iraq demand bold changes, the kind of sweeping changes seen during the administrations of Franklin Roosevelt and John Kennedy.
"Big, strong, bold changes are going to be necessary," he said.
While health care costs have increased by more than 100 percent in New Hampshire over the past seven years, big pharmaceutical companies enjoy government subsidies and lobbied for a prescription drug plan that benefits the pharmaceuticals, he said.
Asked by a crowd member if he would continue the Bush administration practice of conducting raids against those who use marijuana for medicinal purposes, Edwards said he would not. In those states where voters had approved medicinal marijuana, he said he would honor the democratic process.
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On the topic of soaring energy costs, the candidate said he would have big oil companies investigated for price gouging and roll back the $3 billion in tax subsidies the big oil companies receive. In the long run, he would promote alternative energy sources such as solar and wind power.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 12:29 PM
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1. K & R
I wish all the Dems were asked about the medical Marijuana question.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 12:31 PM
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2. I really like Edwards and my sister in law really likes her job
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 12:33 PM by glowing
working for the insurance industry (since it allows her to work from her home and she doesn't have to worry about day care costs), but I really don't like keeping our health on the stock market. Insurance companies have a bottom line. They have to make money. They cut costs by denying coverage. this is the fallacy of letting money makers gamble with our health. Also, I don't think this would encourage small business growth... Health-care is expensive for companies, more so for a small mom and pop store... it encourages box store incentives and outsourcing jobs.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 12:36 PM
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3. K&R
I like Edwards a lot too!

:kick: & Recommend!

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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:09 PM
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4. I personally know people with AIDS and they NEED medical marijuana
It is the only thing that gives them an appetite and helps with other symptoms as well. I'm so proud of John Edwards for standing up for what is right! :patriot:
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appal_jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 02:10 PM
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6. agreed
Edwards just moved up another notch on my meter. It takes courage to support medical MJ at this political moment, and I applaud the good Senator for mustering that courage.

I'd get really enthusiastic if Edwards would just up and say that medical MJ use is an inalienable right ALREADY protected/enumerated by the 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th, 10th, and 14th Amendments.

Hey, a man can dream, can't he?

-app
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 04:45 PM
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8. Indeed
And hopefully he will do just that if and when he becomes our next president. Personally, my views lie more in line with Dennis Kucinich and Al Gore, but I'm from NC and I think Edwards is pretty much a good guy. He rates WAY above Hillary and Obama in my opinion. :)
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thethinker Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:38 PM
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5. This heath care plan doesn't work
None of the Democratic candidates have a plan that will work. The only plan that works is a single payer plan for all the people. They should just open up Medicare (which does work) to everyone.

Edwards has a lot of good ideas, but his health care plan isn't one of them.



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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 02:28 PM
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7. In the right direction
I hope, that with the right momentum and clout- including a more progressive and numerous Dem majority- Edwards will continue to push the envelope toward sinlge payer health care. Hillary's greater reaction to being stung last time and never having recovered or even fought much for single payer since is the standard position of all Dems with a serious chance to propose new legislation. Once in office it might be a different matter with Edwards, but it is a scant hope at present. Giving more rewards to companies that put profit above the nation's health is a hellish bargain, not an astute compromise of responsible capitalism. I wonder that we can ever get backj on the Clinton track of seeing government corporate relations dealing responsibly with cutthroat corporations who will voluntarily toe the ethical line for the common good.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 04:46 PM
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9. good to know
I fully support medical marijuana (actually I prefer full legalization, but this is a start).
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 06:15 PM
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10. That's pretty impressive, that he would support democracy in the states where they
approve medical marijuana, and call off the jackbooted federales. And I don't mean that sarcastically. It IS impressive, because if there is any force in this country more destructive and more dangerous than the war profiteers, it's the drug war profiteers. In Colombia, they are completely out of control, using billions in Bush-provided "war on drugs" money to slaughter thousands of union organizers, peasant farmers and leftists, and to engage in large scale drug trafficking. Here we have the "prison-industrial complex" and other police state lobbies, who feed off the "war on drugs" and bully office holders into maintaining an utterly insane drug policy, that is probably as destructive, as costly and as anti-democratic as the new "fatherland" security apparatus and the Iraq war itself.

Making medical use of marijuana legal again* is a step back toward sanity. We don't have to live in a police state. A good half the people in prison shouldn't be there. Some should be under a doctor's care and in rehab. Others--small time users and pushers--need social help, not punishment: education, decent-paying jobs, hope.

Our priorities and our society have been turned upside down by the "war on drugs." It's time to dismantle this lost "war" and start over.

It is often compared to the utterly failed experiment called "Prohibition"--which created a crime wave like no other we have seen in the country, until the Bushites took over. The current "war on drugs" is much worse. It is institutionalized crime, the crime of the state, in invading peoples' privacy, dictating their personal habits, harassing them, jailing them, confiscating their property, destroying their lives, often over the mere growing of a PLANT, which grows wild in nature and has been used for medicinal and other purposes for tens of thousands of years. And that isn't all. Cocaine imports from Colombia dramatically increased in 2005 and again in 2006. What is all this massive expenditure of our money, and cost in our civil rights, FOR, if our government is IN LEAGUE WITH the rightwing paramilitary drug traffickers in Colombia? They haven't stopped the flow of the stronger illegal drugs--they have made things worse!

In the Andes, the coca leaf is used much like the indigenous use of marijuana here (and in other places). It is a medicine. It is essential to survival in the high altitudes and icy climates of the Andes mountains. Its use for these purposes goes back millennia. It is considered the most sacred of plants. The winning candidate in the last Bolivian presidential election--Evo Morales, the first indigenous president of Bolivia--campaigned with a wreath of coca leaves around his neck. Why? Not because he is a drug user or drug pusher, or supported by drug lords. He is most certainly not. He did it to illustrate its PROPER use--and to symbolize his support for a SANE drug policy, not one that EMPOWERS drug lords and rightwing paramilitaries, and not one in which huge scale pesticide spraying poisons the land, and drives poor peasant farmers off the land and into urban squalor. Not one that CREATES crime. A sane, balanced, fair, wise, helpful, humane policy in which small scale personal use of coca leaves is an individual right, in which the cost is minimal or non-existent, in which everybody has decent medical care, and a way to make a decent living, and in which predatory drug pushing and crime gangs gradually die out, starved of ungodly profits. Participatory democracy--which Morales, and also Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, and Rafael Correa, in Ecuador, strongly encourage--is also part of the remedy. When people have a say in their government, and feel personally empowered, and feel they are living in a just society, they are much less likely to fall prey to the easy money and criminal life of drug traffickers, and much less likely to tolerate a criminal element in their neighborhoods (or running their countries).

In short, it is alienation and hopelessness that is the chief cause of drug abuse, and devastating poverty that is the chief cause of criminal drug trafficking. We can all think of exceptions to these tenets, but they so in fact comprise the general picture, and the chief causes of the "drug problem." Instead of overreacting, and over-criminalizing, the problem, get at its roots, and undermine the economic conditions and structures that FOSTER drug crime. WE have overreacted--way, way overreacted--creating a rightwing COP culture that feeds the beast (the opposite of what we supposedly intend). These South American countries are trying to pull back from that--back toward sanity and common sense. It is very refreshing. And it helps us see OUR problem even more clearly: We have TWO problems--drug abuse AND the "war on drugs. The remedy (the "war") is killing the patient--the people.

Anyway, imagine a U.S. presidential candidate saying something SANE about drugs--that marijuana is a MEDICINE (or, at least, that democracy should prevail on this issue). That does indeed take courage in the present political context--although I think that context is far saner, at the people level, that anyone realizes. Our war profiteering corporate news & entertainment monopolies are no help on this issue either. They perpetuate all the rightwing myths. They promulgate the INSANE views of a minority, and exclude the views of the majority, on this and on many other matters.

For those who don't know it, our Declaration of Independence was drafted by Thomas Jefferson on hemp paper, made from the marijuana plant. Both Washington and Jefferson grew the plant on their farms. All the rope in the all the seagoing ships, for thousands of years, was made from hemp. The sails were made from hemp. Clothes can be made from hemp. Use of hemp paper and other products would significantly reduce the stress on our vitally needed forests. (Think of all the trees that you have wiped your ass with! Hemp tissue would be a good substitute.) And many believe that marijuana is a much better crop for biofuels, than corn or soy. It is perfectly nuts that this plant is illegal. What the hell should the government care if people dry some of the leaves and smoke them, or sprinkle them on food?

Nuts. Insane. Obsessive. Cruel. And "prohibition" is one other thing: highly profitable to certain people, in the government and in the crime world (in so far as they can be distinguished from one another).
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 12:15 AM
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11. Edwards, leading on yet another issue!
:bounce:
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 01:48 AM
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12. This is old news from 04'.
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 01:51 AM by calteacherguy
Medical Marijuana Patients Win New Hampshire Primary

MANCHESTER, NH - January 27 - Medical marijuana patients were the clear winners in today's New Hampshire primary as U.S. Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) beat former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean by a double-digit margin, while a solid majority of Granite Staters voted for candidates who have pledged to end the Bush administration's raids on medical marijuana patients and providers.

On the campaign trail, Kerry said he favored federal medical marijuana legislation and pledged to end the Drug Enforcement Administration's (DEA's) raids on patients and caregivers in states with medical marijuana laws. The stand earned him an "A-" grade in Granite Staters for Medical Marijuana's (GSMM's) voter guide. Gen. Wesley Clark (D-AR), in third place with three-fourths of the votes counted, also pledged to end the raids and received a B+.

Dean, in contrast, killed popular medical marijuana legislation when he was governor of Vermont and failed to pledge a permanent end to the DEA's raids. Dean's final GSMM grade was a D-.

http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/0128-01.htm
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 06:48 AM
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13. As I read this, I was thinking to myself, how long will we have to
wait for health care,jobs, and money for higher education. It sounds like a dream that we all could benefit from. I hope we get a thinking president elected in 2008.
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Oldenuff Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:28 PM
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14. Since when did he support MMJ?
Just because he said he would honor the Democratic process,does not mean he supports MMJ.I was trying to find a link to an article where he indicated that he does not support MMJ,but alas I cannot find it.But it does remind me that Shrub said virtually the same thing at one point in his first campaign.

Ever get the feeling that a candidate will say all kinds of things to get elected?
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