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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 11:52 AM
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Bob Shrum is a failed Democratic strategist who is now selling a book.
Shrum is shit stirring, that will now be his legacy.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 11:55 AM
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1. He has reduced himself to the status and insignificance of Dick Morris.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 11:56 AM
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2. and Pat Caddell.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 11:57 AM
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3. Since the DLC will want free copies...
who will actually buy it?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 11:59 AM
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5. the conservative book club, lots of good talking points in there for the gop.
i'm sure Bob will be a hit at The Heritage foundation.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 11:59 AM
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4. Bob ("Kiss of Death") Shrum.
How many candidates has he ever actually gotten elected???? :dunce:
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:01 PM
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6. Funny the different reactions...
When word came out a few weeks ago that a couple tell all books on Hillary were being released later this year...there was barely constrained glee here at DU...

Now that it is someone other that Hillary on the receiving end, it isn't viewed with such pleasure!!!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:02 PM
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7. Seems it all depends on whose ox is being — excuse the expression — "gored."
Doesn't it?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:04 PM
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8. i also think thats shit as well, the big difference between Bernstein and Shrum are
their jobs.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:05 PM
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9. Doesn't mean Shrum isn't telling the truth...
And Bernstein's wasn't the only one...
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:06 PM
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10. And it doesn't mean he is.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:10 PM
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11. Didn't seem to matter to people...
Whether Bernstein was either...people were just happy dirt on Hillary might be coming out...they didn't even know what it was...

And I don't know if what Shrum is saying is true or not...I just find the different reactions interesting
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:13 PM
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12. hmm... I think perhaps a post vs. post analysis of the reaction to each book would be fun
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:14 PM
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13. Could be quite amusing!!!...nt
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:31 PM
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16. here are a few reactions to the news of the Bernstein book on Clinton
*Bravo, Mr. Bernstein. This is the kind of investigative reporting the country has needed!

*As long as he doesn't make shit up like the RW swiftliars do, what's to worry?

*There Has Been A Lot Of Hinting That Bill Is Still Catting Around Lately

VERSUS the reaction to the Shrum book..

*Bullshit Shrum just wants another piece of Clinton pie

*Bullshit, I wouldn't trust or believe much of what Shrum has to say

*Robert Shrum is a giant douchebag

*Shrum IS A Shit-Head!!!

*Gee ... he's selling a book?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:50 PM
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17. You should have included Hillary supporters statements too.
Edited on Thu May-24-07 12:51 PM by Forkboy
What did they say about Bernstein's book? If you're going to draw a comparison both sides of the story should be shown.

"I have this vision of gathering a gang of women in business attire and buying 1000 copies of Bernstein's book, sweeping them up into a a huge Bon-Fire pile in downtown NY for a regular old book-burning."

"Bernstein has worked for the neocons ever since he helped them to "assassinate" Nixon."

And the funniest reaction to Bernstein's book was from you,pushing Gerth's book as a "more balanced" book about Hillary,even though you had read neither one and were oblivious to Gerth's history of tearing Hillary a new asshole at every chance he could during Whitewater.Seems you yourself were desperate enough start a whole thread to downplay Bernstein's book.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3245804

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:54 PM
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19. that wasn't the point. You might as well have posted a tuna fish salad recipe
You have Hillary detractors cheering for the Bernstein book. You have Hillary detractors condemning the Shrum book.

The you have YOU who thinks posting Hillary supporter's reactions to the Bernstein book is somehow relevant.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 01:00 PM
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20. I wasn't the one who brought it up...you did.
Deal.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 01:03 PM
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21. Oh, so posting irrelevant replies puts hair on your chest? Deal.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 01:15 PM
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22. Better than on my knuckles.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 01:18 PM
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24. Yes, but were they the same people?
Is there a small cadre of people here at DU that will cheer whenever something bad is posted about Hillary? You betcha. There is also a similar group that will do it when something similar is posted about Obama, and more who will do it when Edwards is the target.

It doesn't mean anything. Hillary is no more a victim than anyone else. As a matter of fact she might be less of one if her supporters didn't flock to threads which denigrate other candidates to gleefully crow about how the shoe is now on the other foot.

I'm begging you people, STOP. We've gotten to the point here at DU where we treat every other Democratic candidate but our own as if they are the enemy. We are harsher to them than we are to the Republicans who are wrecking our country. The Republicans would love for each of our candidates to be smeared endlessly from now until next November and WE ARE DOING THEIR WORK FOR THEM. The big game is just around the corner and we are having a civil war in the locker room trying to determine who the team captain is.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 01:42 PM
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25. jesus..Shrum set the trap..and I fell into it!
I should blame myself for not reading the fine print and for posting my opinion before I knew most of the details. but I also intend to learn from this mistake. Shrum should be writing plots for soup operas, not speeches or campaign strategies for Hillary Clinton. if Hillary learns from this, I may support her in the primaries. but even if she doesn't, I'll probably support her if nominated.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:17 PM
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14. i agree.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:26 PM
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15. Gee, I wonder
why Hillary inspires such negativity?

:shrug:
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:53 PM
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18. Hillary could win my primary vote..if she fires Shrum!
this stuff makes Republicans have nonstop erections..especially Edwards quote about gays :crazy:

what a fantasy..a bald-headed, middle age pervert paid only to continually kiss Hillary Clinton's butt! They probably like this even more than Monica and Bill.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 01:45 PM
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26. Is Shrum working for Hillary's campaign?
First I've heard this.
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 02:05 PM
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27. She doesn't want him either
So he's pimping mistruths like Dick Morris did about Sen Clinton. Shrum is a sore loser. He should go work for Joe Lieberman, but even Joe probably doesn't want damaged goods either.

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 02:20 PM
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30. Shrum is not working for Hillary then
Thanks, Benny.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 02:19 PM
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29. I think prostitution is still illegal..
but you'll have to ask Shrum for the details! :shrug:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 04:07 PM
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32. I don't understand
What are you saying? Is Shrum working for Hillary or not?
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 06:13 PM
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35. maybe Shrum isn't on the payroll..
or maybe he is :eyes:

but he certainly thinks she is a great candidate. http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/26/170550.aspx

oh no, Shrum is just being honest. He thinks she won the last debate, and that Edwards would be too easy for Republicans to beat in November.

I'm sorry, we should trust Bob Shrum..after all he isn't in politics for the money, is he? :rofl:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 06:23 PM
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37. Maybe you should stop spreading rumors
Like Shrum?
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 06:34 PM
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38. ohh, but I just want to make Republicans happy!
sorry, I didn't mean to insult experienced leaders like Bob Shrum. and I agree that we should flush the toilet next time, before Bob gets to it! :hurts:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 06:36 PM
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39. You're doing the same thing you're accusing him of doing
I'm not defending Shrum, but if you criticize him for unsubstantiated statements, what does it make you when you emulate him?
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 06:47 PM
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40. but I'm only showing respect..
maybe emulating him is the best way to freshen things up.

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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 02:16 PM
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28. Shrum sucks and he's a loser, for real
everything he touches turns to crap. Edwards is and was better off without him.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 03:00 PM
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31. That doesn't make him a liar.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 06:16 PM
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36. I know..
it makes him a liar and a backstabber. But Republicans would call him an honest businessman.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 04:16 PM
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34. And people accept his word as "Gospel"
Interesting for people who bitch and whine about the propaganda and the media, then turn around and buy into everything the media fabricates without hearing all the facts or what comes straight from the horses' mouths.
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