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mountebank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 11:49 AM
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Great response by Kucinich to media question about Kerry "story."
Dennis Kucinich was in L.A. the other day and made an appearance before the media in MacArthur Park. In response to a question about the John Kerry "story" (I think we need a symbol to represent "the John Kerry story," don't you think?) Kucinich responded something like:

(disdainfully): "I'm not going comment on that. Listen, I don't spend a single moment thinking about those things, or talking about them, even in casual conversation."

Then he went on to talk about jobs and the economy. This guy is all about issues.
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 11:50 AM
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1. He doesn't talk about sex in casual convo? Damn!
Edited on Fri Feb-13-04 11:50 AM by robsul82
Maybe that's why he's been divorced a couple times. I KEED, I KEED!

Maybe Will can confirm that if he's not busy defending Kerry. I REALLY KEED!

Later.

RJS
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 11:51 AM
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2. Perfect response.
Every other candidate should let the Kerry campaign sort this out for themselves, and stay focused.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:37 PM
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19. Then I hope Dean's supporters will stay out of it as well
rather than acting vengefully.
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:18 PM
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26. What about the Edwards supporters
it's not just a one team effort.
BTW plenty of us Dean supporters have not participated.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:32 PM
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30. This thread isn't about Dean
:eyes:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 11:51 AM
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3. Good for him.
Stay away from the gutter, stick with the issues.
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 11:52 AM
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4. Dennis should be an example
of how we should be, not just here at DU, but in the "real" world. That's why I supported him as long as I could (caucus state, he wasn't viable).
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iowapeacechief Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 03:22 PM
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36. Caucus state...not viable...
...me, too. Joined Edwards for a few minutes during Iowa caucus (at Dennis' suggestion). Otherwise, I'm with Dennis all the way, all the time!
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 11:53 AM
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5. bravo!!!
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 11:56 AM
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6. a shining of example
of an appropriate response to a ridiculous non-story.
I wish more DU'ers would live up to such a standard.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:13 PM
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14. Exactly, and so do I
Thank you to Dennis for dropping this crap into the gutter where it belongs.

DPB
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 11:56 AM
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7. Yes, this is exactly the right response.
Serious, classy, and focused on what matters.

Funny, though, that on other threads Kerry is being attacked for the same refusal to dignify the accusation with a response.
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 11:58 AM
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8. On a more serious note than I KEED!...
Well, DK has the comfort of being able to say this, since he doesn't have to worry about actually beating Kerry. Sorry, but it's true.

Later.

RJS
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:05 PM
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10. Dontcha think statements like that can help you win?
Gotta respect it. Kinda refreshing, isn't it?
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:06 PM
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11. Well, yeah, but respect ain't long for the political world, hah.
Point stands.

Later.

RJS
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KFC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:32 PM
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17. True. Dean sure doesn't have to worry about beating Kerry either
After the epic implosion of his candidacy.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:02 PM
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9. what idiot asked him about this ?
what a stupid thing to ask him about. total waste of question.
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:07 PM
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12. A reporter...reporting...on the news of the day? Hmmm?
:)

Later.

RJS
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mountebank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:12 PM
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13. didn't catch which news organization....
she was actually from.

But some other media moron then asked another winner, "What's keeping you in the race?"

This after Dennis had just expounded on his passion for social and economic justice for working class people.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:26 PM
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15. mediawhores
"But some other media moron then asked another winner, "What's keeping you in the race?"

This after Dennis had just expounded on his passion for social and economic justice for working class people."

how do some of these people become reporters ?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:27 PM
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16. Which is exactly why Democrats should be voting for him. n/t
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:35 PM
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18. Jobs Jobs Jobs thats how he could beat bush Any dem could if they
said they would dump NAFTA WTO neither conservatives nor liberals like their jobs going to india
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mountebank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:06 PM
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20. He also got asked about Katharine Gunn....
The woman from the British gov't who leaked the document about the U.S spying on Security Council members, and is now being prosecuted. Needless to say, DK supported her. Also needless to say, the question was posed by an indie media type. The major media's questions were worthless.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:15 PM
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24. Just more reason that Democrats should be voting for him.
:loveya:
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:08 PM
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21. I think DK is actually a Kerry supporter these days....
Just my impression form his press secretary's and some supporter's comments.
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mountebank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:15 PM
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23. Not sure I'd go that far.
He was pretty critical of Kerry in his speech in L.A. as I remember (no details stick, unfortunately) and commented how the race was far from sewn up. Of course, if it comes to that, I'm certain he will support the Democratic nominee.

As a Kucinich supporter myself, I am highly suspicious of Kerry. He is my second-to-last choice (besides Al Sharpton) among the remaining candidates. I know (press secretary) Will Pitt likes Kerry - but I'm not up on why.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:22 PM
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28. From his speech in LA
Speaking at a forum of the National Assn. of Hispanic Journalists, Kucinich criticized Kerry, a Massachusetts senator who voted for the congressional resolution authorizing the war.

"Sen. Kerry voted for the war. Sen. Kerry supports the occupation. Sen. Kerry supports sending another 40,000 troops to Iraq," Kucinich said. "I'm wondering if the people of this country are ready to trade a Republican war for a Democratic war, because that's exactly where we're headed right now."

link
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 02:12 PM
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33. trading Repuke war for Dem war
Indeed Kucinich has been directly challenging Kerry on the occupation.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:17 PM
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25. NO! Didn't you get the meme-- I mean, the MEMO
DK is actually a tool of the Repubs and the DLC to strip away the "librul" votes from Dean, and deny him the nomination.

Geez, where you been? Get with the talking points already!

:D
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:19 PM
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27. I think that's ludicrous
how could he be a Kerry supporter while he's running for President?
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:31 PM
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29. get out into the real world
constantly reading stuff on DU may have skewed your world view.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:54 PM
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32. absurd
His new adds specifically call out Kerry by name on Iraq.
Just because he treats Kerry with respect does not make him a supporter.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:13 PM
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22. All the way with Dennis K
Edited on Fri Feb-13-04 01:19 PM by cosmicdot
that was the correct reply ... what did others say or do?

Rainbows and Poise




I trust him. He is the BFEE's anti-thesis. He is thinking about our future, and laying the plans with the infrastructure required for our health and well-being ... he can carry his "baggage" in one hand, and his cell phone in another. His ideals will establish the pragmatic applications to do the job.

Would he wind up at http://www.realchange.org just like the others?


I wouldn't bet on it.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 02:24 PM
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34. EEEK! Someone needs to get him to stop using cellphones
Edited on Fri Feb-13-04 02:30 PM by Mairead
or at least get a headset. There was a study just released demonstrating that cell-phone radiation is sufficient to burn holes in the brains of adolescent rats. Very very scary!




Edit:

02:00 AM Jan. 31, 2003 PT

In a study that may shed some light on whether cell-phone use is harmful to callers, Swedish scientists found that radiation emitted by the world's most common mobile phones burns holes in the brains of rats.

Swedish neurosurgeon Leif Salfold and his team tested the radiation
emitted from Global System for Mobile communications phones on 12- to
26-week-old rats. The age group of the animals tested, researchers say, is equivalent to that of human teenagers -- who tend to lead the pack in cell-phone use worldwide. GSM phones are the most commonly used around the globe, particularly in Europe, Asia and the Middle East.

"The situation of the growing brain might deserve special concern, since biological and maturational processes are particularly vulnerable," wrote the study's authors. "We cannot exclude that after some decades of often daily use, a whole generation of users may suffer negative effects as early as middle age."

The cell-phone industry has long disputed the results of studies like Salfold's because such effects have not been documented in humans. Both the World Health Organization and U.S. Food and Drug Administration have said there is no evidence that cell-phone radiation is harmful to users, but that there is also no absolute evidence to the contrary either. The New England Journal of Medicine and Journal of the American Medical Association both ruled out that infrequent and short-term cell-phone use -- up to five years -- causes brain cancer.

Most recently, a federal judge threw out a case brought by a Maryland neurologist who claimed his brain tumor was caused by frequent cell-phone use. Federal Judge Catherine Blake ruled that none of the evidence submitted by Dr. Christopher Newman was substantial enough to warrant a trial.

"We found that the preponderance of scientific evidence continues to show that there is no adverse health effects in using wireless phones," said Jo-Anne Basile, vice president of external relations for the Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association. "As you know, wireless phones are regulated by strict government standards, and those standards are constantly being reviewed by the federal agencies responsible for the public's health. Part of what they do is that they are always looking at new research to make sure that these rules continue to protect the public's health. This study will be reviewed along with others."

Still, Salfold's findings have raised eyebrows in the scientific
community and cell-phone industry, and among the public.

The study was published in the peer-reviewed journal Environmental Health Perspectives, a publication of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, which is part of the Department of Health and Human Services. Salfold's study is also one of the first to suggest that cell-phone use causes a malady other than brain cancer.

"This is a big story," said Louis Slesin, editor of Microwave News. "I don't think it's good to peg this story as if we are all going to get brain damage. But you can't ignore it."

The Swedish study included three groups of rats that were exposed for two hours to various GSM phones at different levels of radiation. The study found a link between electromagnetic frequency exposure and a leakage in albumin -- a protein in human tissue -- through the blood-brain barrier. The researchers also noticed that the neuron damage the rats suffered increased in response to the amount of EMF exposure.

The authors of the study acknowledged that their test sample was small, but that "the combined results are highly significant and exhibit a clear dose-response relation."

Such a hole in the brain could prove life-threatening because it would mean that almost anything circulating in the blood -- including toxic pollutants -- could enter the brain, said Dr. Tom Goehl, editor-in-chief of Environmental Health Perspectives.

"Again this is in adolescent rodents," Goehl said. "It's pretty much hard to jump to humans. But it may be a warning signal that this is something to look at."

Goehl said that, on average, his publication accepts only 20 to 25
percent of 800 studies reviewed each year.

His publication snapped up this study because, unlike most other research of its kind, it didn't focus on whether the devices would cause cancer.

"Now we have another way to look at (this issue)," he said. "Maybe this has a far-reaching effect and ... this is just a warning sign that we need to take a closer look at (this issue)."
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 03:16 PM
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35. Kick for DK
Thanks Dennis. :loveya:
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