Dean Supporter Here Who Wants Kerry "Intern" Story to Die

[BurtWorm]

It's turning us into buzzards. Maybe it's best to see if it's true before running with it. Until it's proven true, I personally don't care about John Kerry's personal life and will presume it to be false.

I do care about the quality of political discourse, and I loathe the tabloidization of it.

[molly]

1. You are correct - THANKYOU!

[eileen_d]

2. Thank you

This puts the whole Kerry/intern thing in broader perspective.

[Maddy McCall]

3. I agree...

you remain the classiest Dean supporter at DU. :toast:

[RandomKoolzip]

4. Another Deaner who wants Kerry to succeed....

I hope this story goes away. Kerry's a good man, and he indeed has a great shot of beating Bush....I can't hack another four years of sex scandals, generated entirely by the RW media. I know Dean is on the ropes right now, but I still believe in him. If he doesn't get the nod, then I'll be MORE than happy to vote for Kerry or Edwards.....ABB!

[Screaming Lord Byron]

5. G'day RK. Where you been?

[RandomKoolzip]

11. Chicago.

I just moved. Been VERY busy lately. Need to find a job NOW. Been too busy to even READ DU lately, much less post.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

16. Cool. Best of luck. Sorry you had to come back to this Kerry shitfest.

[dsc]

6. I want the truth out whatever it may be

But Kerry is interested in my marriage so why shouldn't I be interested in his?

[BurtWorm]

10. That's the only reasonable argument for keeping this alive that I've heard

At least it's about *something* more substantial than noise and interference.

[dsc]

13. thanks

it is so reasonable I have yet to hear a retort to it that wasn't "You are a bitter, desperate Dean supporter." and "Dean wants to ban gay marriage too." Neither of which is remotely relevant to my point nor, for that matter, true.

[CWebster]

7. may he crash and burn nt

[BurtWorm]

9. May he crash and burn for good reasons.

Not for some lame-brained more-of-th-same-shit vacuuity. I loathe this rubbing of hands over someone's private life.

[CWebster]

12. what could he be thinking?

Burt? For crying out loud!

[BurtWorm]

15. Must sex be the permanent subtext of US politics?

I don't want to be a part of that hypocrisy that thrives on sexual details of the rich and famous while pretending to be shocked by it. I'll criticize Kerry's judgment when it's proven he did something more interesting than screw around.

[CWebster]

18. Please

there is nothing new under the sun.
Sex is the subtext of everything so Freud would tell you. ;-)

[BurtWorm]

21. Sometimes sex with a young AP reporter

is just sex with a young AP reporter. ;)

[CWebster]

28. Especially when you are getting all moralistic

about the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman, while passing some disapproving attitudes towards gays seeking to legitimize their commitment through accepted conventions.

[BurtWorm]

30. As I say, that's the best reason to toss bombs at Kerry over this

Maybe it can be used to shame him into taking a more progressive stance. It would be a true shame if a sex scandal can only be used to destroy and not construct. (But believe me, I'm not naive enough to have faith it could be used constructively.)

[truthspeaker]

8. Ditto from another Dean supporter.

[edzontar]

14. If it's true, I'd rather it came out now, and not in October...

If he is the nominee.

Still, after what Dean has been through, it is impossible not to feel a slight twinge of "Ha!----It's your turn now, friends..."

I realize that this is uncharitable.

[BurtWorm]

20. I can enjoy Schadenfreude without lowering myself to tsk-tsk Kerry

And I am feeling Schadenfreude. But after a while, this kind of shit just gives me a headache.

[mountebank]

17. It would expose the hypocrisy of "electability."

And the hypocrisy and ultimate futililty of voting based on "electability." Vote on issues and you will rarely have this problem. Kerry's problem is that his major momentum and support is build on a house of cards, that being his ineffable "electability." It would certainly be sad to watch him fall, and the fall would be full of selfish and craven positions on both sides, but it would demonstrate the futility of voting on "electability." In a sense, Democrats would get what they deserve.

[BurtWorm]

19. It would if proven true or if he fails to kill it dead.

Between you and me, I would hate to have Kerry's sex life serve as an excuse to give the Bush boy (whose got a shitload more character deficiencies) license to legitimacy.

[mountebank]

24. I agree entirely, yet...

I would hate that ridiculous issue - if true - hand Bush the election too. And it would drive people away from the political system in hoards.

But - again, if true - I can't help but see the justice in having a candidate whose major attribute is some nebulous electability factor that everyone is all too willing to buy into go down on the same issue. If you're going to put electability up as who you are, as I think Kerry and most of his supporters have, you gotta be prepared to sink on that issue too.

[BurtWorm]

26. I will be pissed with Kerry if he doesn't kill this dead.

Reallllly pissed. :grr:

[eileen_d]

23. This Democrat is not voting for Kerry based on "electability"

Got anything else?

[mountebank]

33. I'm glad to hear that.

If you peruse the exit polls, you'll find you're in the minority. Furthermore, it is my opinion that other candidates have more support when you look at voters - like you - who vote solely based on the issues. You would be hard-pressed, I think, to make the argument that most of Kerry's support at this point is not precarious balanced on his "electability," whatever that means. Though I applaud you for bucking the trend.

[nightperson]

22. Thank you.

Did people here see this Eschaton post a while back-http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004_02_01_atrios_archive.html#107595401802632747? I think a lot of sleazy attacks have already been "wargamed for". The important thing is to keep pounding Bush now that he is finally vulnerable. That vulnerability is what we've worked towards for a long time, right? Not the demonization of Kerry, Dean, Clark, or even Drudge.

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

25. Same here

I too am I Dean supporter who finds this whole thing beneath contempt.

Over the last few months I've had some really disillusioning experiences regarding this race and politics in general. While this kind of smear campaign is hardly new, I guess I thought that the Clinton impeachment was its culmination, and that it would fail to become an issue with anyone else ever again. I guess I assumed that since I've been tired of it since Clinton first ran for office in 1992, that everyone else was too. Silly me.

Once again, I'm not a Kerry supporter at all, but I think this is just plain stupid. There are SO MANY issues that sorely need discussion and debate that it's almost tragic. Healthcare should not still be an issue in the 21st century. The legalization of gay marriage should be a no-brainer by now. The fact that our public schools are hopelessly underfunded should be on everyone's front burner. And so forth. Where politicians do or don't stick their dicks shouldn't even be interesting to anyone, much less turned into a campaign smear.

Of course, we live in a time when David Kay's report gets less press coverage than Janet Jackson's tit, so I probably need to wise up some more and become even more disgusted.

Sigh...

[BurtWorm]

27. You said it!

Extremely well. :toast:

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

29. Thank you

However, while I appreciate the sentiment implied by the beers in your emoticon, this kind of story makes me want to shoot up heroin and die in a gutter.

[BurtWorm]

32. I can relate to that!

:hangover:

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