Kerry story doesn't JUST hurt Kerry

[mrgorth]

It's not as though those midwestern swing voters that have been thinking about voting against Bush are just going to say "oh well, I'll just support Howard Dean instead". No. They are going to say "the democrats are liars and cheats and can't be trusted". No one should be discussing this, validating it or rejoicing in it. This story is helping no one but Drudge and Bush. I just hope the Kerry people can stop it.

[Cuban_Liberal]

1. Addressing the problem, rather than saying 'No comment' would help.

eom

[molly]

8. How can one address something that isn't there?

:shrug:

[Cuban_Liberal]

One can issue a SUBSTANTIVE denial.

'No comment' sounds lame.

[Atlant]

20. What if one can't deny it? (NT)

[Cuban_Liberal]

22. Then it's a BIG problem. n/t

[Killarney]

2. Exactly. This sucks all around.

:(

[in_cog_ni_to]

3. We're finished.

Kerry knew this would come out. Stick a fork in us....we're DONE. Thanks Kerry. :grr:

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[in_cog_ni_to]

17. I heard him on Imus.

He had a very weak comment. "There's nothing to it." Ya, OK, John.....whatever you say. Kerry will never beat Bush. If KKKRove has thrown THIS story out in the primaries....there's more to come. If the intern comes forward, Kerry's toast. Then, we can throw in his votes for the IWR and the Patriot Act.....his special interest money. His $7000 Custom made motor cycle he bought the same year he could only afford to give $135 to charity. Oh yeah....this will be rich. The repukes will mop the floors with this guy.

[Cheswick2.0]

9. do you think your candidate is going to endorse Kerry today

and will you be supporting Kerry.

[in_cog_ni_to]

19. Hell no!

I will not be supporting Kerry. My vote will not go to anyone who voted for the IWR and the Patriot Act. I don't know if Clark will endorse him today or not. If he does, I will be VERY disappointed.

[polmaven]

21. Can we bother to wait and see if it is true?

Kerry knew this would come out.

The National Enquirer broke it and Drudge ran with it. Given the upstanding credentials and reputations of those two outsatnding reliable sources it must be true?

When I start seeing it from more reliable sources I will give it more credence. Before then.....It is from THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER!!!! Consider the source!!!!

[in_cog_ni_to]

25. Is C-SPAN reliable enough for you?

Is the Sun Times reliable enough for you? This story was in all the major newspapers too....C-SPAN read the articles this morning. Drudge also broke the Clinton...Jennifer Flowers story, Remember? Drudge also broke the Rush Limbaugh..Oxycontin story. Remember?

[emulatorloo]

26. Um, they are just repeating Drudge

Drudge puts it out, they recap Drudge. They are just repeating Drudge. So what?

PS Enquirer broke Rush Story.

Where is Clinton's illegitimate child that Drudge promised us?

[polmaven]

27. Washington Journal is not

a news source...It is a talk show..The story is there...that is not in question.

The Sun???? The paper is owned by Rupert Murdoch...now there's an un-biased, reliable source. An, BTW, have your READ the Sun Times story? Have you seen the part that says there is no proof of an affair?

Of course the newspapers are echoing the allegations that are there...that does not give us a reliable source to PROVE the truth of the allegations.

When I see reliable proof, from a reliable source, I will give it credence. Reporting or discussing rumors that were actually first broken by the National Enquirer (Drudge is not the first) is not proof.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

4. Excuse me, but how is this story hurting Kerry? Are you saying that any..

...story along these lines hurts Democrats worse than the NeoCon Junta is currently being clobbered by the National Guard-AWOL story, and/or the Valerie Plame investigation, and/or the WMD investigation, and/or the 911 investigation?

Please get a grip.

[mrgorth]

10. What I'm trying to do

sir (or maam) is to make sure that supporters of other candidates do not look at this as some kind of opportunity to move ahead. If this is true (and mayb if it's not) it's going to hurt all of us, and yes, perhaps worse than any of the crap that * is dealing with right now.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

13. Hogwash.

[mrgorth]

16. Riiiiiiiight

You just keep believing that.:eyes:

[meegbear]

5. Perhaps if people would stop harping on it ...

and let him handle it, that would be a positive start.

And you're right; people aren't going to say "oh well, I'll just support Howard Dean instead".

[Cuban_Liberal]

11. If he would 'handle it' maybe people WOULD stop 'harping on it'

'No comment' is not 'handling it'.

[Cheswick2.0]

12. yeah but they should support Dean instead

he is a much better candidate. :7

[corporatewhore]

6. also his wife and kids i was humiliated when my parents divorce became the

talk of the playground i would imangine i would have been mortified if there was a entire forum ddivoted to discussing it on top of all the news paper reports and talkshows

[DemPopulist]

14. Bingo

:yourock:

[MuseRider]

15. This is very true.

I have been saying that Kansas could very well go to the Democrat this year. That being said, this could kill it. No one is talking elections around here except a few of us. No yard signs, no bumperstickers, no articles in the paper or on the TV news. Nothing. You talk to folks and all they say is that they want Bush* out. This state could very well go to Kerry. Could have gone for Clark. I don't see it supporting any of the other democrats although we are all working hard to change that. If this story does not get stopped folks around here just may feel that the liar and cheat they have now is far preferable to the one they do not know as well. We as Democrats must get out there and stop this shit. Kerry goes first. Answer the question and we should follow, at least publicly to support his answer.

[CWebster]

18. mrgorth...

kerry doesn't care about anyone other than Kerry. THAT is the underlying dynamic.

[drfemoe]

23. whoa

I was thinking about the same thing .. he's been a liability to the Democrats for some time now, imo. What's one more banana peel? He should be ashamed of himself for his role in taking down the Dem's best chance for new life.

[seaglass]

24. Dean's negatives are at an all time high. He wasn't going

to get the independent swing voters anyways.

http://www.dailykos.com/

According to ARG, Clark's supporters seem to have split almost down the middle between Kerry and Edwards. Even had they all gone to Edwards, Kerry would still maintain a solid lead. MoE 4%. 2/12. (2/6 results in parenthesis)

snip....

But perhaps the most startling part of this poll is the fact that people really, really hate Dean.
Howard Dean
Favorable: 19 (20)
Unfavorable: 43 (37)