Question, if Hillary /Byrd nullifies IWAR today, will you "forgive" her vote ?

[saracat]

Would you reconsider supporting her if he effectively "ends" the war? Just curious.

[Divide Et Impera]

1. Absolutely!!!

Reverse this course....

[DURHAM D]

2. Yes. n/t

[movonne]

3. No!!! Hillary is a DLC er and that says it all.

[rodeodance]

4. What is going on? please.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. No.

And if she doesn't nullify it, I'd... like her even less.

[Wickerman]

6. I'll get back to you after I ask the opinion of the families of the 3,400+ soldiers

For expediency I won't go through the effort of trying to ask the families of the 600,000 collateral damage victims in Iraq.

[martymar64]

7. I will forgive her IWR vote

But it won't get her my vote in the primary. So far Edwards is sounding good, everyone else (DK excepted) doesn't really light my fire, too vague in their plans. GE support? Sure, why not?

[Gloria]

8. All this maneuvering doesn't make up for the fact that she and Bill are

corporatists. Just reminiscing about how Bill's best friend Mack McLarty is in business with Henry Kissinger, the guy who was supposed to find out the "truth" about 911 until he was shouted out of town.

Ugh. We need a change this election, not a continuation of this crap....

[draft_mario_cuomo]

9. HRC continues to vote to finance a war she allegedly opposes

She is for it--while she is against it. Only when she puts her votes and her money where her mouth currently is should she get credit for being anti-war.

[rinsd]

13. Edwards has the distinct "advantage" of not having to put his money where his mouth is

He can mea culpa till the cows come home, Hillary and Byrd (and I hope Obama joins them) can actually do something about it.

I just hope they follow through.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

19. Edwards has put his money where his mouth is

Edwards is running ads to advocate his position of the Democrats standing up to Bush for a change. Others, unlike Edwards, favor retreat and surrender in the face of Bush's stubbornness.

You are partly right that both HRC and Obama can--if they choose to--exercise leadership to help bring this war to an end in the Senate. Let's hope they do so and support full withdrawal (not a simple de-escalation that will leave tens of thousands of "non-combat" troops in Iraq) and stop signing blank checks for Bush and his war. You cannot say you are against something that you are financing. That is like saying you oppose your cousin's drug abuse even though you keep footing the bill for his drug purchases!

[Bitwit1234]

10. I don't understand why when over 17 or more democrats voted for the war

she is the only one people keep harping about....she has said over and over and over and over....if she had known before she voted what she knows now about the bush lies she wouldn't have voted.

But I guess they hold Hillary Clinton to a higher standard than any one in politics, should she be on a par with the Pope.

[Carolina]

16. I hold them all accountable

but those now running for prez (HRC, Edwards, Biden, Dodd) really piss me off with the apologies, the excuses, the hindsight speechifying and now ta-da the novel idea of a do-over on the IWR vote.

They all should have listened to Robert Byrd:

"If we are going to make it a blank check, let's make it a blank check right upfront, without all of these flowery figleaves of 'whereas' clauses, and simply say that the President has this power. Give it to him and we will put up a sign on the top of this Capitol: 'Out of business.' Gone home. 'Gone fishing.' Put up a sign: 'We are out of it. We are out of business. We, here in the Congress, are out of business,' may I say to my friend."

They should have heeded his words back in 2002, back when it mattered ... before so many lives were lost or otherwise forever changed, before so much money (that could have been better spent on domestic issues) was squandered, before all the good faith/world standing was destroyed.

So, God forgive me, but it's a mighty struggle for me to forgive HRC or any of them for that fateful vote in 2002 because the mess we're in now was predicted, predictable and DID NOT HAVE TO HAPPEN.

[mod mom]

11. Will she denounce free trade and corporate influence?

[Adelante]

12. I'm not voting for any IWR voter in the primary

If that's what you mean by forgiveness.

[Milo_Bloom]

14. No. Her lack of judgement disqualified her

for higher office under any circumstances.

[paulk]

15. I never blamed her

or any of the other Democrats who voted for the IWR.

I also never thought the IWR was the blank check that so many on DU want it to be...


This is Bush and the Republican's war.

Period.

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[KingofNewOrleans]

18. Bingo eom

[JNelson6563]

17. More easily in the GE

I'm voting for whoever the Dem nominee is. If this current effort comes to anything, it will be much easier for me to vote for her in 11/07.

I still fear that if she is our candidate the wingers will turn out in record numbers....people are more inclined to come out and vote against something than for something.

Still this legislation would make a difference for me. A positive one.

Julie

[w4rma]

20. This makes no sense. She knows that Bush will just veto this bill.

All the Congressional power to reign in control from Bush lies in the war funding bill(s). Anything else is just photo-op BS.