Has Wes Clark decided not to run? I don't seem to be hearing

[leftyladyfrommo]

anything at all about him. Did I miss some big announcement?

[corkhead]

1. Maybe he's talking to Al about being a running mate

[BOSSHOG]

2. That would be awesome

Gore-Clark. Although I'd rather have the General serve as Secretary of State. Incredible how deep the dems bench is.

[wildhorses]

3. i would like to see that

gore/clark

:applause:

[kimmerspixelated]

4. Me three!

[democrat2thecore]

32. Could be - seriously!

Can you imagine, everyone is tired of the choices by the time of the early primaries - and just in time to get on the ballot, Al Gore steps to a podium and says he has decided it's now or never and can no longer stay on the sidelines. He also announces that in an unprecedented step, he is partnering with Wesley Clark to run as a team in the primaries with the intent on being the nominees of the Democratic Party and win the White House in November. Clark comes out makes a statement about the need for Al Gore as president and his looking forward to working for his nomination.

Wouldn't that be something? Talk about shaking things up.

[NancyG]

53. That's my dream team Gore/Clark

[jcrew2001]

60. Clark doesn't want VP

Clark doesn't want VP

[CarolNYC]

63. hey jcrew2001

I see your Wes Clark obsession is still going strong...Nice to see some things don't change anyway. Have fun! :hi:

[jcrew2001]

65. Ask Clark2008 down below

about his thought about clark running for VP.

I didn't know I was banned from talking about Clark - thank you for your censorship.

[CarolNYC]

66. OK, that is a seriously bizarre response...

to my post, you know? Again, have fun.

[jcrew2001]

67. Clark2008 stated that Clark shouldn't be VP

don't you guys stick together?

[CarolNYC]

69. You're still not making any sense....

as far as I can tell...have a good night, OK? :hi:

[INDIA]

5. He's too chummy with the Clintons.

He wouldn't run against Hillary. A definite possibility as a VP if she wins the nomination.

[The Count]

6. Wow! That one came out of nowhere! Huh?

It used to be a famous RW talking point in 2003 - the "stalking horse for Hillary" BS. Thank you for reviving it....There wasn't enough BS flying around here.

[William769]

8. They do on occasion happen to be right.

[The Count]

9. Another fan of RW talking points! yeay! Did you also think Gravel was "comedy relief?

[William769]

10. Of course!

:evilgrin:

[The Count]

12. "What's worse than a soldier dying in vain? More soldiers dying in vain" - hysterical!

I remember a time when DU was for activists, not operatives...People's sense of humor used to be a bit different from the sadist in chief.

[William769]

15. You so funny!

NOT! He's funny not what he said, but then again I'm sure you knew that.

[Clark2008]

30. But this one isn't.

Clark isn't "cozy" with the Clintons. He worked for Bill for a time, but they didn't grow up together or anything. Despite what some may believe, Arkansas is a big place.

[Virginia Dare]

7. Agreed, or another important role in her Administration...n/t

[FrenchieCat]

13. So is Al gore! And?

:shrug:

[INDIA]

23. I've actually heard that Gore isn't very close with the Clintons. n/t

[FrenchieCat]

28. Heard the same thing about Wes Clark......

Although the Clintons do "owe" Wes Clark a host of gratitude....considering that while Clinton was busy defending from the Blue Dress, Clark was battling the pentagon to win a war......and considering Clinton's not so "hot" decisions on Rwanda (which Clark called for intervention in), Bosnia (200,000 deaths prior to the Dayton Peace Accords), and Somalia (BlackHawk Down).....Wes Clark helped Clinton be remembered for his Foreign Policy successes.

[jcrew2001]

35. I think Gore isn't willing to challenge Bill and Hillary

maybe if Hillary fades a lot. But I think loyalties do run deep in politics and Gore won't publicly backstab Bill by challenging Hillary. Gore's legacy has been tied to Bill's.

[jcrew2001]

34. I agree, I think Bill's convinced him to stay away

for the time being. If Clark wants VP - it will be Hillary's best partner to win the G.E.

[Clark2008]

37. Clark shouldn't be VP - what a waste of his talents.

If not president, then Secretary of State.

The VP needs to be a senator and the president needs to be a head of state... like Clark used to be as NATO commander.

[jcrew2001]

39. Hillary won't win the WH without Clark as VP

if Clark is a LOYAL Democrat, he will run as her VP if he wants us to win the White House.

Otherwise hillary will lose big-time.

I'm sure Clark is a loyal man, and he'll do the right thing and serve as our next VP.

Unless he wants to see Rudy or McCain in the white house.

The Dems are not guaranteed the WH - Hillary and Obama are very weak in the GE.

Clark can take on a "Cheney-like" role as VP, only he'll make better decisions.

[AliceBlitzstein]

47. so Clark will settle for being Hillary's VP?

Suppose the idea about Clark being a loyal part of the Clinton team had some merit?

[jcrew2001]

50. If Clark were a Loyal Democrat he will accept VP

because that is the only way Hillary or Obama can win the general election. They are too 'weak' and inexperienced and need Clark's experience.

I'm sick of Clarkies speaking on behalf of Clark and making him sound pompous and self-righteous. If Clark cared about helping a Democrat win the White House, he would gladly accept the VP.

In fact, if Kerry had selected Clark as VP, he would be President now.

[xkenx]

58. Clarkies know that Clark is the most qualified to be POTUS.

We are not satisfied to be relegated to a lower post just because you wish it so. When it comes down to it, Wes Clark will do whatever is best for his country, whatever that is.

[jcrew2001]

59. Clark can't be Secretary of State if we don't win the WH

so if he doesn't run for President, You are saying he won't accept VP????!!!!

As I've been saying, if he is the VP on the ticket, the Democrats win the WH. Do you disagree?

I don't know if he is running for president, and I will wait until he makes a statement.

[xkenx]

54. Clark owes nothing to Bill or Hillary--he will run against her

[high density]

11. He's participating in a "mock presidential convention" next month...

http://news.wlu.edu/news/page/normal/1685.html

The Washington and Lee University Mock Convention is pleased to announce that its May 25th Spring Kickoff event will feature former NATO Supreme Allied Commander and retired four-star general Wesley Clark. General Clark brings a wealth of experience and skill to the podium on topics ranging from world events to corporate investment strategies. His strategic and political insights will be a great addition to the Spring Kickoff for the 2008 Mock Presidential Convention.

[jcrew2001]

36. not sure what that is

will Hillary, Obama, etc be there?

[high density]

45. Washington and Lee University Mock Convention

http://mockcon.wlu.edu

The Washington and Lee University Mock Convention is a quadrennial tradition in which student delegates attempt to predict the presidential nominee of the political party currently out the of the White House; this year, the Mock Convention will try to select the Democratic primary candidate.

[jcrew2001]

68. So clark is running in a Mock Election Primary instead of the real

primary?

[PresidentObama]

14. I'll support him if he runs. Until then, Edwards has my support ;) n/t

[FrenchieCat]

16. I wouldn't blame Wes Clark if he has decided not to run, which appears to be the case to me, because

Like Dennis Kucinich said at the debates last night...."This isn't American Idol here, we're choosing the president, we have to look at the audition that occurred in 2003 when my good friends were called on to make a decision, and they made the wrong decision. Apologies are not enough....the people are looking for a president to make the right choices, and the integrity to make the right decision even if it's unpopular."

if I were Clark, I'd stay out of the mickey mouse mockery process called our presidential elections. This country ain't worth it! When you've got folks feeling entitled to big job promotions for making serious mistakes (cause they said sorry), America deserves what it gets. Calling the run for the presidency about as serious as "American Idol" is just about right....

[Clarkie1]

17. I agree. America gets the leaders it deserves.

There are some good people running...Obama and Richardson for example. But when America does not demand more than mediocrity of it's leaders, mediocrity is what it will get.

Clark is by far the best-equipped to handle any kind of international crises, which should be our #1 priority when electing a President. On top of that, he has progressive Democratic values. Trouble is, he just doesn't have that "Hollywood" quality. Perhaps that's asking too much of Americans today, I don't know.

[FrenchieCat]

18. He has the Hollywood quality as well.......

he just has not had the press on his side....which makes all of the difference in the world.

It's who "they" push that gets considered. To think otherwise is to have drunk the Kool-Aid!

[Clarkie1]

19. Yes, it's mostly the media. nt

[Auntie Bush]

20. If he runs...it's a slam dunk! Even if the press doesn't do him justice.

If he could only win the primary he'd have no trouble with the press. They'd gobble him up at the thoughts of him beating Hillary and then on to some poor dick in a dark suit with a dark heart and a dark soul.

[The Count]

22. Gravel to Tweety last night: "They'll continue to do it (maintain status quo) as long

as you in the media continue to build them up"(on the candidates that are merely posturing) "That was harsh" "You deserve it"
So far, Gravel has my vote. Or DK.

[The Count]

21. Wow! DK rocks! I still hope I'd have someone both competent and having a chance

to break through the MSM fix... I'll be peeking out of my coffin for that

[David Zephyr]

31. The country is worth it.

I am also greatly disapointed that Wes chose to sit it out yet again. I think it was unfair to his supporters, though.

Barack Obama and Dennis Kucinich are great Americans and would benefit from your support. So would John Edwards.

And, maybe...Al Gore.

I expect that General Clark will endorse Hillary soon. I have braced myself for it. I hope if it happens that you won't be let down.

You need to move on. You are way too smart, too bright to stay with Clark any longer. He's not going to run.

Others need your talent, FrenchieCat.

I'm supporting Obama, Kucinich, Edwards and Gore. So you know I'm a mess. :hi:

[jcrew2001]

41. I would be surprised if Clark backed down from running

I'm not sure he's got the political persona to meet and greet voters. Its difficult running as a General because there is no political base to rely on for support. Ike couldn't win the primary without promising Warren the supreme court justice. Clark could run, but it will take a lot of hard work and it won't be handed to him, there are people like Hillary who have spent a lifetime in politics and they won't go down without a strong fight. I think Clark should buck up and enter the race and go down swinging.

[robcon]

48. Why would Clark endorse Hillary????

Is he on some mission to make enemies in the party? He'll wait, like almost all Democrats, until the people have spoken in the primaries, and support the nominee.

[jcrew2001]

51. To suck up and get VP or SoS

He'll endorse Hillary because they all want cabinet positions when/if she is elected.

I think Clark hopes to get VP, after all it legitamized Edwards - if Hillary/Clark loses in 2008, then Clark will be a frontrunner in 2012!!!

[xkenx]

55. Take heart, David Zephyr, Clark will run.

[Cameron27]

64. I hope so xkenx,

I have no doubt he'll win this time around.

[laureloak]

24. He works for Fox News. 'Nuff said. n/t

[FrenchieCat]

25. And he helped us win back congress in 2006........

by kicking ass and taking numbers on Fox as a respected military figure who gladly identifies himself as a Democrat every chance he gets.

Additionally, he didn't support this war.

Just do a search on the NewsHound site and check for yourself that Clark working at Fox was probably a Godsent to us Democrats as well as those poor uninformed GOP members, many who decided to vote for Democrats in those Red Districts that were turned Blue last election which is the only way that we won seats that had previously been held by Republicans.

Here's the search results!
http://www.google.com/custom?domains=newshounds.us&sitesearch=newshounds.us&client=pub-5476407960412642&forid=1&channel=3166737174&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BFORID%3A1%3B&hl=en&q=wesley+clark

[laureloak]

43. He would best serve the Dems by not legitimizing Foxnews. n/t

[Maddy McCall]

26. "Nuff said." Maybe for simple minds who are incapable...

of seeing the benefit of his work there.

:eyes:

[laureloak]

42. All Dems should boycott Fox News. Do you really think

he isn't chummy with them when he's not in front of the camera?

If you think he's in enemy territory expressing the views of the Democratic party and not fraternizing, then it's obvious who has the "simple mind" around here.

[NCarolinawoman]

44. Today he is over in Albania trying to straighten out the Serb/Kosovo/Russian mess.

Do you know what's going on with NATO and the Russians lately? These are dangerous times.

[xkenx]

57. No not 'Nuff said. Clark deliberately went into the Fox lion's den to spread the Democratic message.

If you had ever heard him tear the likes of O'Lielly and HanRATty a new one, you would have seen the wisdom of that action. Millions of Fox viewers have been exposed to the truth.

[illinoisprogressive]

27. I honestly do not think clark or Gore are going to run this time.

[Clark2008]

33. I'm beginning to believe that, as well, meaning I may, for the

first time, ever, have to pass on a primary.

I really don't like most of the people running and those I do like probably don't have a shot in hell.

:(

[jcrew2001]

40. I'm sure you can do a write in

It worked for Mario Cuomo.

What state are u voting in?

[Clark2008]

29. You'd never hear about him anyway.

The corporate media has been ignoring him since December 2003 - unless, of course, his driver gets a speeding ticket.

Maybe we should ask them? :shrug:

[jcrew2001]

38. Blaming the media is a red herring

There were lots of self-inflicted reasons Clark lost in 2004 and external reasons of Dean and Kerry.

The media annointed Dean the victor in 2004 and ignored Kerry.

If we trusted the media, why vote? let's just annoint Clinton president!

I think Iowa voters will be smart enough to ignore propoganda.

[FrenchieCat]

46. That's your opinion.....and you are welcome to it......

[jcrew2001]

49. So, the media annointed Dean the winner yet

Kerry somehow managed to win, do you hate Kerry that much to say that Clark should have beat him.

[xkenx]

52. IMO Wes Clark is running! Here's why.

Clark incessantly sees the candidates we have running now and finds them lacking in national security creds and true leadership ability. He strains at the bit, knowing that his background as a military leader, diplomat, and executive decision-maker runs circles around anyone on that stage Thursday evening. He will answer the calling of his country, as he has always done. In any setting other than some national TV interview, he drops hints about his running--it's only when, not whether. I have followed virtually every event, every utterance of Clark's, and I see a human being of such great patriotism, such great integrity, that I am utterly convinced that he will run. And when he does, it will be a revelation to those who have not been observing him recently, to find that he has developed great political skills to compete on the artificial stage of a political campaign. But he won't sacrifice his ideals or integrity. He will be the true national security candidate, because, make no mistake, 2008 will be all about national security. We should not delude ourselves into thinking that just about anyone can defeat the Rethug candidate; whoever that is will run far away from GWB, will run as a true conservative, will claim the historic mantle of Republican national security strength. We had better be ready with a candidate who can take them on on their own turf, and who cannot be swiftboated. That is Wes Clark.

[Sparkly]

56. Great post!!!!

Thanks, xkenx! :D

[jcrew2001]

62. I'm surprised he's waiting so long

It didn't work in 2004. I think we have a weak field in Hillary and Obama. I don't know why everyone is satisfied with those 2.

I think Clark will be very strong, especially if he is able to convey a domestic agenda. I think Americans care more about domestic policy and national defense, rather than foreign policy. It won't be only about Iraq - Americans want someone who cares about economic policy and can convey that empathy.

Maybe he's waiting on Hillary to fail. But if she does, then Gore will likely jump in. Gore can't lose again, can he? I see Gore as a better option than Clark.

[Colobo]

61. C'mon guys... he's not running.

This is all about Hillary and Obama. Between them is our candidate, and it should obvious by now.

[wiley]

70. I'm already tiring of the BS MSM coverage, but not nearly

as sickened and repulsed by the prospect of any of the currently running Republicans. I'm voting Democratic Party. I'm only donating to Congressional and state legislative races for the next two years. So can we focus on the incredible outrages being committed by the Republicans on the American people?