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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 12:58 PM
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The Democrats' Depressing Debate (by Bob Moser at The Nation)
Edited on Fri Apr-27-07 01:01 PM by marmar
article | posted April 27, 2007 (web only)
The Democrats' Depressing Debate
Bob Moser


Maybe it's the fact that I'm sitting in my hotel room, 30 miles up the interstate from Orangeburg, with Johnny Cash on the headphones singing populist murderer's tunes. Or maybe it's because I've been zig-zagging around my native South these last six weeks, taking the political temperature of grassroots Democrats. (In sum, it's 100 degrees and climbing fast, even in the most "Republican" parts of Dixie.) But as I sit here sipping the obligatory late-night bourbon and trying to make sense of what I saw at South Carolina State tonight, what I can't get over has very little to do with what I actually heard and saw. It has everything to do with what the lily-livered, consultant-scripted Democratic Gang of 8--OK, Gang of 6, as Mike Gravel has clearly never met a consultant, bless his heart, and poor dear Dennis has never been able to afford one--could not muster up the guts to say.

There was nary a syllable uttered about race. This is not only shocking at a debate set in a state, and a region--not to mention a country--whose politics and culture and economic caste system, whose everything, has been defined and twisted and perverted by the artificial line between "black" and "white" for its entire history. It's not only shocking in the midst of a war that resembles Vietnam not only in its sensational waste of human life, but in its undeniable quality of being a rich people's war and a poor--and mostly black, and disproportionately Hispanic--people's fight. It's even more shocking because these candidates were standing directly across from the site of one of the most infamous civil-rights atrocities of the late 1960s, the Orangeburg massacre, when South Carolina Highway Patrol officers opened up on black students protesting a segregated bowling alley right here at South Carolina State and shot three of them dead while wounding 27 more. The story was ignored then, though every officer was unjustly acquitted, and now it has been ignored again--even in the wake of another school shooting that did come up in the debate. But this is a part of the country where African Americans fought bravely and staunchly and sometimes violently to make the Civil Rights Act a practical reality. And it's a place where the economic divide that continues to widen is largely--as we saw so vividly in New Orleans, and can just as easily see in Chicago and Los Angeles and New York City--a product of the quieter, subtler, but no less overwhelming white privilege that still prevails not only in South Carolina, but in every crevice and corner of this numb and blind country.

Really, "shocking" is too mild a word. Failing to decry the racial and economic divide, on this historically black campus, in front of folks who can't afford to ignore it, whose history has been written in the very blood of race hate, is downright shameful. The shame extends to all eight candidates. And to all who cheer them on and fail to demand that they not blithely ignore the hideous plank in this nation's collective eye. ......(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070514/moser




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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 01:01 PM
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1. In all fairness, Obama did at least state that the Confederate flag
belonged in a museum, and nowhere else. But that was it.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 01:11 PM
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2. This article is an excellent read of what went on "behind the scenes"
at the debate. Particularly liked the response of the crowd in the Gym who applauded loudly at Kucinich and Gravel's comments.

His description of Candy Crowley (CNN) and Jeff Greenfield (CBS) ceasing their laptop typing when Kucinich spoke...kind of said it all about the Whore Media.

And, his discussion of what "wasn't discussed" or asked in the debate nails it.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 01:12 PM
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3. Kick and Rec... because the article is not just about Race...it's about our Two American Economy...
worth the read.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 01:22 PM
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4. I am willing to give our candidates
some credit for perhaps understanding and acting
appropriately under the circumstances. Although,
I have been away for a long time, I have Southern
Roots also.

Yesterday, On MSNBC, there was a Republican Political
Consultant, last name is Graham. He explained he
had worked South Carolina Politics. He plainly stated
South Carolina is a very difficult state to play
politically. Frankly he said S.C. is the most
"raceocentric" state in America. My advice to
Democrats is . Accept the fact you will not win
SC. To there, do your best. Above all do not
do not do anything, that others can use against
you in another state later on.

He gave as example--If I had been in charge of MCain
Campaign in 2000 against Bush. I would have had
McCain skip South Carolina, take a loss, use the
time and money elsewhere and stayed in the race longer.

After thinking it through perhaps our candidates did
just about right.

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 01:41 PM
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5. Moser nails it!
He and I watched the same debate, saw the same exact characters and, though, he has been wandering through the South for the last six weeks and I have been in out in MidWestern streets for a few years now, he and i see the same incongruence between who we are and the machine manufactured pseudo-leaders offered to us by both parties.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 03:35 PM
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10. Yep
Sad, very sad.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 02:18 PM
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6. Sorry but the corporate big media pushes them to be like that.
Notice how the two who are running vanity campaigns and know they have no chance to win are more blunt and less tactful?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 03:11 PM
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7. This is true. But, don't you wonder . . .
Edited on Fri Apr-27-07 03:12 PM by patrice
In light of all of the lathered post-debate fervor, when Scarborough and others were panting about Hillary's "presidential" use of the word "prudent" - Doesn't that make you wonder if, given the necessity of responding to how "corporate big media {and other$$$} pushes them", why isn't it possible for the candidates semantic handlers to come up with other such well-crafted powerful code-words to speak to Populists and to the Left and to Labor et al?

Okay, so they have to be "careful", why can't they "be careful" and speak to the Left as well as they do to the Right?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 03:18 PM
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8. Yet in all of this negativity, Moser said this:
"So did Joe Biden, who was far and away the finest performer of the night because he managed to be both the sharpest-minded and the most identifiably "regular" human being."
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 08:23 PM
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11. Joe Biden did very well.
My attention has been elsewhere, but now I want to see more.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 10:09 PM
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13. Check out his site---- all sorts of info on there
Joebiden.com
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 03:20 PM
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9. Blacks in SC who watched the debate said Obama won by a wide margin
56-21 over Clinton; so maybe Barack had more going for him than this disenchanted pundit would allow:

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=ba1ebc70-a734-4185-8532-2e4a9ba45d96&q=39848
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 08:28 PM
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12. I want to think more of him than I do, but the fact is, he is short on
the specifics about Iraq and he's scaring me about Iran.

That nothing off of the table stuff enables self-fulfilling prophecy, which results in situations such as Iraq.
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