Joe Biden is the best foreign policy mind on our side by far

[justinrr1]

I think his plan for Iraq is excellent, especially compared to the others. If we had a debate strictly about Iraq or Foreign Policy he would wipe the floor with any democrat or republican candidate. Do the rest of you agree with my view? If so why do you think it is so hard for him to gain any kind of traction in this race? Thanks in advance for your replies.

[ellenfl]

1. i think all the traction in this race so far is rw spin. just mo. eom

[iamjoy]

2. Why Biden Can't Get Traction

he's boring.

He seems nice enough, but he's just not interesting.

The media wants it to be a showdown between Clinton and Obama, so that's what we're going to get.

Where's the drama with Biden?

[justinrr1]

4. Boring?

I think Biden is hardly boring, maybe in the context of not great name recognition. I do agree that the media will and has shaped this race as Hillary v Obama. They can make or break whoever they want to and thats a damn shame.

[jillan]

3. Justinrr1

Welcome to DU and you are my new best friend:hi:

[ret5hd]

5. maybe because he sold his soul to the financial and credit industry

[Adelante]

6. I don't agree with his plan

But there is no question on foreign policy he and Richardson take the field.

[I_Make_Mistakes]

7. Except, Biden is from DE and was in favor of the Republic

Bankruptcy Bill, plus, he represents the Credit Card Capital and their unethical rates!

He also was Hawkish on the war, and with all his experience, IIRC, he voted for the IWR!

[jillan]

14. Biden is a Senator from Delaware

Delaware is the credit card capital of the world.
He was voted in by those people.

I understand why he did it, even though I don't agree with it.

[FrenchieCat]

8. I disagree with us carving Iraq out...and forcing Iraqis to move

from one area to another. I think the fact that we invaded their country on trumped up charges is more than enough! This separatist plan sounds kinda of Hitleristic to me! :shrug:

[youngdem]

9. He can't gain traction because he sticks his foot in his mouth three times daily

Loves the camera too much, has accomplished next to nothing legislatively, and is a DLC, Credit Card company WHORE.

He also initially supported the Iraq War, and this piece of shit also voted for the Credit Card Pork Act of 2005, better known as the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005, which makes it infinitely harder to discharge the predatory debt his 'constituent' credit card companies have strapped to working class Americans.

He is a bright man, but he is a politician ONLY, and his constituency is Joe Biden.

Then, there are these:

Biden stated in regards to his relationship with the Indian-American community: "I've had a great relationship. In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian Americans - moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."

Guess he wasn't joking.


Then, speaking of Obama, he said:

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, ... I mean, that's a storybook, man."

And finally...

"During Ritter's Senate testimony about the inspection process, Senator Joseph Biden stated "The decision of whether or not the country should go to war is slightly above your pay grade.""

(quotes pulled from wiki)

So, the man is really just someone who jumps on the front of the bandwagon and tries to drive, and who works for credit card companies with a D after his name. Real piece of work.

[justinrr1]

10. Biden

On the bankruptcy vote I disagree with him but you are not going to be able to find anybody who can win who doesnt have some kind of ties to certain industries that they shouldnt have. When candidates are raising $20 million per quarter, it isnt just coming from the average joe (no pun intended). As for his comments I can see how someone would not vote in the primary for him thinking that he will shoot himself in the foot but I just see him as trying to be funny. If those disqualify him then so should Hillary for her gas station comment. No candidate will win the general if he/she cannot convince the people that they know how to protect this country. No other issues will matter for a candidate if they cannot pass this first test. Biden passes this test with flying colors.

[karynnj]

11. I don't think so

I think he can be good in short answers on the talk shows, but his longer foreign policy speeches go in circles.

In the SFRC, I actually though Lugar did a better job running the meetings - though I obviously like the Democrats having control, Biden babbles endlessly after each Senator

As to the Iraq position - I far prefer what Kerry has said hat - that the Biden option could be what the Iragis pick, but we shouldn't be drawing the lines and setting up their government.

I think John Kerry has the best foreign policy expertise. He was competely right on how to deal with terrorism in 2004 - when no one else could see it. His op-ed on Lebanon was more insighful than anything I've seen about that region.

Kerry's speeches at the CFR and in Ireland on Foreign policy and his 2004 speeches are insightful and show a coherent worldview. His foreign policy debate was fantastic.

[jillan]

12. Unfortunately Kerry is not running.

[karynnj]

17. The op didn't say the best person running - it said the best foreign policy mind

Not the same thing - and that is what I answered.

[jillan]

18. I know

and that's why I said Unfortunately.

I missed Kerry tonite - sigh!

[1932]

13. Biden was a big supporter of Chalabi.

[jillan]

15. Justinrr1

This is usually the response I get around here about Biden.

There are a few supporters around, and alot of positive comments about his performance tonite if you read thru them.

What's really pissing me off is that I still have Msnbc on and all they are talking about is Hillary and Obama, a little bit Edwards.
It's almost like they think that there is only 3 candidates running.

Alot of praise for Biden tonite on Msnbc's live blog.

Keep fighting, I'm right there with you.

[Jack Sprat]

16. absolutely. Governors have more

recently dominated the WH, but senators and congressmen obviously are more polished in current legislation and foreign affairs. I guess the perception of governors as executives goes over well. In comparison to Bush, all of them sound like great statesmen. But, yes Biden sounded confident and his sectional partitioning has plenty of merit.

[mmonk]

19. The best foreign policy is a change in foreign policy.

Dividing Iraq into 3 is good as long as it is in some type of federal system of unity. Can you see each of the three with more and more weapons?

[karynnj]

20. Also, any division should come internally,

we should NOT play the role of a colonial power drawing lines on the map. Look at all the tension created where lines were drawn by Great Britain.