While DU does the drudge work, who's going after AwOL?

[Octafish]

Gee. For a while a lot of headlines were about AwOL Shrubalina, the smirking drunk some call resident and I call the Little Turd from Crawford, or Satan for short.

Seems that NOW is the time we should be pouring it on Bush: AWOL pal of James R Bath -- drunken draft-dodging womanizer friend of James R Bath -- corrupt oilman friend of James R Bath -- Stolen Election 2000 and friend of James R Bath -- ENRON Energy Pirate friend of James R Bath -- 9-11buddy of bin Laden and James R Bath -- Illegal Iraq War and buddy of James R Bath.

Thus, it is becoming an especially good time for John Kerry. His 12 primary and caucus victories and good runs in the other two meant he and his message were starting to get a lot of coverage.

Most telling of all are the recent headlines about how well John Kerry stacks up against Bushler, one-on-one. In fact, several major polls show Kerry beating Bush.

So then, just as we were starting to get traction on the whole nine yards, comes one little Drudge report. And that's what's getting the lion's share of the DU postings. Wow.

So, my question: Why in the world are so many DUers going after Kerry now? Just because Matt Drudge said to? Doesn't anyone care about beating the BFEE?

[mth44sc]

1. Exactly!

n/t

[PROGRESSIVE1]

2. I am greatly concerned about this wide spread attack on...

Kerry. I support Kerry too.

[democracy eh]

13. it is a coordinated assault on all Democrats

not just on one candidate

I am having this weird flash back to the Matrix Revolutions when the machines were attacking zion.

remember AWOL AWOL AWOL

[roguevalley]

3. Drudge or no, its in the news. People are talking. Are we supposed to

only discuss positive news? All of it is news whether
we want it or not. Right now, I want to know who else
is on it and what they say. For good or ill, this is
news.

[Jawja]

7. Where in the news

other than Drudge? I haven't seen it anywhere except here on DU.

[LostInTheMaise]

11. Try this link...

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&edition=us&q=kerry+%2Bintern&btnG=Search+News

It's getting legs...

[emulatorloo]

14. Um, page two stories just have the work "Kerry" and "intern"

in them and don't refer to Drudge allegations. . . .

I didn't go further than page 2, but these are just articles that contain the word "Kerry" and "Intern". . . .

[Granite]

17. Yeah, lots of credible sources in that list

Rush and a bunch of British tabloids all sourcing Drudge.

There is nothing to see here.

[Octafish]

9. Good for you.

The point I was trying to get across is that there are more important questions that will be dropped. Specifically, Bush's connections to criminality going from his AwOL days to the present. One name that was starting to get "recognition" from the mainstream press is James R Bath. He's the lynchpin for tying Bush's life from his TANG days through the business dealings of bin Laden with Bush's Arbusto and HARKEN and BCCI and then straight on through to 9-11. It's complicated, but that story will help sink Bush and the BFEE.

[MoonRiver]

4. But nooooooo

apparently salacious sex rules the day here. I'd be a little bit more sympathetic if these spins were directed toward * instead of our frontrunner.
:thumbsdown:

[quinnox]

5. A combination

of some ditto head types having a little fun at DU, along with some still angry candidate supporters looking to latch onto anything to "get Kerry" with. A sort of revenge mindset.

Also, some who are genuinely concerned about it, I don't want to paint to broad a brush.

It is a "hot" story. In a week I suspect it will fade into obscurity.

[Walt Starr]

8. If it's baseless, it's done before Friday

If there is any truth to it, Kerry is toast.

Stay tuned. I think it's baseless, but there is a possibility there is some truth to it.

[quinnox]

10. Even if there is something to it

I'm not convinced it is that damaging. Clinton had the Flowers thing going on in '92 and there was plenty of smoke there. But he still won the nomination and the presidency handily.

[molly]

20. The thing is that it showed he had balls!

[DjTj]

6. You're in the wrong forum dude.

This is GD:2004P where we bash Democrats.

Check out good old General Discussion, where we still bash Republicans:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=104

[Octafish]

12. LOL!

Thanks for reminding me.



It's been a looong day.

[stickdog]

15. Could it be that the fact that AWOL is even an ISSUE simply underscores

the inherent weakness of Kerry vs. Bush?

As in, I may have voted for (or been silent during) all your bullshit, but I was braver than you 30 years ago?

[Octafish]

16. You know, I, too, don't like Kerry's voting to support Bushler at all.

But that's what Kerry had to do at the time. Remember 9-11 and all that was making every middle-of-the-road American nervous about being next. Fear is good, Bush and Corporate McPravda echoed away. So, if Kerry doesn't do the "conventional vote" then, he won't be able to get MOST of them in the middle in an election later.

Remember then? Only a few people on DU and elsewhere were even aware of what the PNAC led BFEE was up to. The night of 9-11, I remember being derided -- by my friends and family -- for bringing up that something was not right . Bush was on the ropes with the ENRON Energy Piracy. People were seeing Aschcan for the NAZI he is.

Then, the attack on our nation gave the BFEE a "perfect" reason to launch a "War on Terror" and its accompanying crack-down on civil rights. This Richard "Perl Harbor" thing was the proof I needed. When the "Bush Knew" headlines came out eight months later, they came around.

What's terrible about the smearing of Kerry on DU and elsewhere is that it only serves to draw attention away from the AwOL Bushalina story. No problem. Kerry's fought the Bush bastards before and won. In fact, he's the only running now who actually HAS stood to fight the BFEE.

[MoonRiver]

19. Is your post designed to undermine Kerry?

I'm asking cause it isn't clear what you're saying.

[curse10]

18. Posting this here since my thread got locked

even though it was an actual article not just conjecture on my part..

http://salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/02/13/drudge/index_np.html

Feb. 13, 2004 | Is American politics suddenly returning to the bad old days, when Washington journalism became frenzied with sheet sniffing and keyhole peeping? That seems to be the default program of the right-wing media machine whenever Republican poll numbers sink into the red zone.

Late Thursday morning -- with George W. Bush's credibility damaged on several fronts as reporters demanded answers to questions about his National Guard service that should have been asked years ago -- the Drudge Report defamed his leading Democratic challenger with a "world exclusive" smudge of personal dirt.

<snip>

[countmyvote4real]

21. Strange how the mods linked your post here

cause there was another thread about Joe's Salon article. I thought that's where I would land.

Here's the thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=34578

[HuckleB]

22. YES. I'm much more worried about an AWOL, lying-us-into-unnecessary-war...

tax-cutting for the rich, deficit creating, 9/11 stalling, CIA operative leaking, etc... etc... etc... piece of Bush than I am about Kerry's sex life.