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doodadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 08:56 AM
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Anyone know a site for debunking supposed Dem quotes?
One of my Repug buddies and I go back and forth with sending insulting posts about the opposite party. He sent me the supposed Nancy Pelosi quote below. It sounds to me like parts were twisted and taken out of context. How to debunk?

Subject: Fw: A Glimpse Into The Mind Of Nancy Pelosi.

*It is hard to believe there are American citizens who support her theories and can make any sense of what she spins. Take a good hard look at what she wants. Take special note of the last paragraph.*

Nancy Pelosi condemned the new record highs of the stock market as "just another example of Bush policies helping the rich get richer".


"First Bush cut taxes for the rich and the economy has rebounded with new record low unemployment rates, which only means wealthy employers are getting even wealthier at the expense of the underpaid working class".


She went on to say "Despite the billions of dollars being spent in Iraq our economy is still strong and government tax revenues are at all time highs. What this really means is that business is exploiting the war effort and working Americans, just to put money in their own pockets".


When questioned about recent stock market highs she responded "Only the rich benefit from these record highs. Working Americans, welfare recipients, the unemployed and minorities are not sharing in these obscene record highs". "There is no question these windfall profits and income created by the Bush administration need to be taxed at 100% rate and those dollars redistributed to the poor and working class".


"Profits from the stock market do not reward the hard work of our working class who, by their hard work, are responsible for generating these corporate profits that create stock market profits for the rich.


We in congress will need to address this issue to either tax these profits or to control the stock market to prevent this unearned income to flow to the rich."


When asked about the fact that over 80% of all Americans have investments in mutual funds, retirement funds, 401K's, and the stock market she replied "That may be true, but probably only 5% account for 90% of all these investment dollars. That's just more "trickle down" economics claiming that if a corporation is successful that everyone from the CEO to the floor sweeper benefit from higher wages and job security which is ridiculous". "How much of this 'trickle down' ever get to the unemployed and minorities in our county? None, and that's the tragedy of these stock market highs."


"We democrats are going to address this issue after the election when we take control of the congress. We will return to the 60% to 80% tax rates on the rich and we will be able to take at least 30% of all current lower Federal income tax payers off the roles and increase government income substantially. We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income in our country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest."


When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied "We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed, and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long ways to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as 'Americans'."

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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 08:58 AM
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1. Google and Snopes
Two great tastes that taste great together.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/pelosi.asp
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 09:06 AM
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4. Thanks Skinner
Thanks for the illustrative response.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 09:01 AM
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2. As a general rule, if a Republican sends you are story about Democrats, it's probably wrong
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 09:15 AM
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5. ...or taken completely out of context
I've found that to be the case more often than not. Sometimes it's easier to debunk the incorrect quotes because you can just prove what was actually said. But when they start the crap of taking quotes out of context, the Cons will refuse to listen/read to the whole thing. They turn it into a black and white "Did he/she say those words or not?" and then you're left with a 'yes, but' and it's a waste of time.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 09:05 AM
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3. It looks to me like a mixture of actual quotes and absolute garbage.
Some of those statements postulate the correctness of government figures and then go off on a tangent that make no sense - but nobody but a wingnut could accept a statement like "record low unemployment" because that is just plain wrong.

How do you debunk lies? I guess the only way is to collect everything she has ever said and then not find this crap in there. Without attribution that can be checked, it is nonsense.
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 09:39 AM
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6. When you debunk this
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